Candid II - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/03/2005 12:41:50 AM · #1

Same as before. Take your camera with you everywhere this week, and capture a candid moment. Try to emphasize the mood of the moment while not forgetting the technical elements of photography.

It did not say a person/human had to be in the shot :)
You should look close before voting.

ROFLOL

gaurawa

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/03/2005 12:44:32 AM · #2

On a related note, the candid shot should not be posed as some of the entries look like... haven't voted yet, but I think if the photograph clearly says 'posed' its not candid. any thoughts ?

cbeller

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 16-85 f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

01/03/2005 12:48:19 AM · #3

Originally posted by gaurawa:

On a related note, the candid shot should not be posed as some of the entries look like... haven't voted yet, but I think if the photograph clearly says 'posed' its not candid. any thoughts ?

Unless you are absolutely positive it is a posed shot, I'd suggest giving the photographer the benefit of the doubt.

Edit: typo

Message edited by author 2005-01-03 00:48:48.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/03/2005 12:49:02 AM · #4

My entry probably looks posed, but I promise you it wasn't. Should I be penalized for capturing a photogenic moment?

-Terry

suemack

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/03/2005 12:58:09 AM · #5

Mine wasn't posed either, though some will think it was.

Just gone through the thumbnails of the candid shots.....WOW!! They look awesome!!

sue

KDO

Canon EOS-700D Rebel T5i

01/03/2005 12:58:38 AM · #6

I agree that you should give a shot the benefit of the doubt. My shot isn't posed either, but probably looks like it is, but how would I know. I never seem to have a clue what upsets people here. I had to do a great deal of pleading to get the subject(s) to agree to my posting it. I am feeling so frustrated right now with the random opinions about what is and isn't, or what does or doesn't meet a challenge. It seems like people are more looking for ways to exclude rather than include. I think I need a break from this site for a while...
best of luck all...

samtrundle

Canon EOS-50D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/03/2005 01:07:18 AM · #7

Yeah this is definately an issue. I'm giving pretty much everything the benefit of the doubt. We have no way of telling what is or isn't posed - and I would suggest that if someone has submitted something into this challenge then it is more than likely that it isn't posed.

I for example, really love my photo, and it was completely unposed - the person I photographed had no idea I was photographing them, yet I already have one comment saying it looks like a studio shot. (I wish I had a studio! :p).

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

01/03/2005 01:08:03 AM · #8

Kathy

I have learned you just have to let it roll off your back like water on a duck.

LOL

One of my small problems is that I like to think outside of the box.

But I enjoy the shots I create and if some of the others here do great if not I'am not going to worry over it.

Originally posted by KDO:

fotodude

Nikon D70

01/03/2005 01:11:58 AM · #9

Originally posted by KDO:

Didn't submit thanx for easing my mind about it

if any1 has any ? about what will and will not go over well look at the 1st candid challenge winners
1st-

2nd-

3rd-

there u are if ppl. voted for bush again they'll vote the same way on most anything most times

NOTE:not trying to say that the top 3 where bad in any way (i lov all of them especaly 1 and 2) just compair your shot to those and give it a good "3rd person" thought.

_brando_

Good luck to all

KDO

Canon EOS-700D Rebel T5i

01/03/2005 01:12:36 AM · #10

RHoldenSr, I agree with you not to let things get to me. I am even VERY okay with highly critical comments that help me out technically or push me to be better. This is a great site. I just need a break from it. I think it is time to focus on my writing for a while and then come back here when it feels a fresh again. Right now it feels a tad worn... or maybe just I am feeling a tad worn...could just be old age ;-)
I agree suemack, the entries in the Candid II challenge do look exceptionally good!

Mark of SRQ

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

01/03/2005 01:12:45 AM · #11

Originally posted by RHoldenSr:

I think it is an implied rule that it involves people. You can't take a candid shot of an apple. An apple can never know the camera is there. It won't change if a camera is present. Same with an animal. They don't know what a camera is for. As soon as a person knows they are being photographed, their whole persona changes. An animal doesn't know the difference. Neither does a motorcycle. I believe only people can be candid.

Technically animals can, I guess, but it defeats the purpose, because an animal is going to do whatever they do regardless if a camera is present. A person will change in the presence of a camera. The whole idea is to catch people being people. Any picture of an animal, therefore, is candid, because they don't know.

I've just opened myself up for flaming, but that's what I believe.

That said, I think there are some very good shots in this Candid challenge. This is my favorite type of photograph. I guess that's why I am so passionate about it.

Message edited by author 2005-01-03 01:17:34.

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

01/03/2005 01:23:43 AM · #12

I don't want to go into much detail with the challenge going and etc.

But I like to think outside the box and I feel you can get "Candid" with quite a few scenes that are constantly in change even animals. A female Gorilla breast feeding her baby would be one.

"Try to emphasize the mood of the moment"

I have a person in my shot but you have to take time and look real hard :)

Candid: informal or natural; especially caught off guard or unprepared; "a candid photograph"

thatcloudthere

Canon EOS-1D

01/03/2005 01:23:43 AM · #13

Wow, I am seeing a few that I'm finding reaaaally difficult to believe to be candids...model wearing make-up, perfectly lit, etc...

...I guess I'll have to give the benefit of the doubt. I'll be incredibly disappointed to hear the truth on some of these photos, methinks...

whiteroom

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/03/2005 01:34:22 AM · #14

well mine was posed but it doesnt look like it was,
what should i get for that?

'art is fundamentally theatre. If you can fake it then fake it,
if you can't tell then it doesn't really matter'.

Mark of SRQ

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

01/03/2005 01:35:15 AM · #15

Originally posted by RHoldenSr:

But I like to think outside the box and I feel you can get "Candid" with quite a few scenes that are constantly in change even animals. A female Gorilla breast feeding her baby would be one.

"Try to emphasize the mood of the moment"

Candid: informal or natural; especially caught off guard or unprepared; "a candid photograph"

That's why I said, "technically animals can." But hold a camera up to a human mother breast feeding her baby and see how she reacts. Then put a camera up to a gorilla breast feeding, and she the lack of a reaction. The candidness doesn't change, therefore, is it really candid?

I must be passionate about this topic, becasue I hardly ever argue. This is fun.

Mine also looks like it could be posed, but it's not. Meanwhile, since this discussion started, my score dropped from 5.9 to 5.6.

Message edited by author 2005-01-03 01:38:04.

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

01/03/2005 01:44:17 AM · #16

I'm discussing not argueing :)

If the fenmale gorilla is paying attention to only her young yes it is candid. Candid to me is with no attention to the camera at all in most cases.

Originally posted by Mark of SRQ:

Then put a camera up to a gorilla breast feeding, and she the lack of a reaction. The candidness doesn't change, therefore, is it really candid?

SDW

Canon EOS-60D

01/03/2005 01:48:46 AM · #17

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

My entry probably looks posed, but I promise you it wasn't. Should I be penalized for capturing a photogenic moment?

-Terry

Same here. I had to use almost all of my 432mm zoom to get my picture. Some may say it looks posed; but IT IS NOT!

Message edited by author 2005-01-03 01:49:29.

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

01/03/2005 02:03:58 AM · #18

I so much wanted to use one of the shots in this series but the female was being blocked by the post.

I thought the female Orangutan breast feeding her baby was a great candid shot.

I had my camera and large zoom lens mounted near another exhibit when I turned and looked towards the Orangutan exhibit and saw this unfolding.

It was New Years Eve and not much of a crowd.

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

01/03/2005 02:04:20 AM · #19

Originally posted by RHoldenSr:

I'm discussing not argueing :)

If the fenmale gorilla is paying attention to only her young yes it is candid. Candid to me is with no attention to the camera at all in most cases.

Originally posted by Mark of SRQ:
Then put a camera up to a gorilla breast feeding, and she the lack of a reaction. The candidness doesn't change, therefore, is it really candid?

I have read this discussion and i for one will not vote an animal candid shot above a human shot. Like others i feel it is not in the spirit of the challenge or the meaning of candid in photographic sense.
And the entries without either people or animals will get voted lower.
Sorry if i tread on toes but it just my opinion and how i intend to vote.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

01/03/2005 02:11:12 AM · #20

Anyone who's ever had a dog knows how aware they are of being scrutinized, for whatefver that's worth. Not only that, but whoever said a shot is only candid if someone doesn't know they are being shot? Some strikingly candid moments occur in the instant of realization that the camera is there. Shock, outrage, shame, come to mind.

I haven't even looked at the entries yet. I'm damned curious what I'll find.

Robt.