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05/25/2026 05:34:03 PM · #1 |
Sorry - I'm slow on the uptake:
Is it really a challenge under extended editing?
Shouldn't it be a minimal editing challenge with the exception of one single rule?
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05/25/2026 05:53:27 PM · #2 |
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good question -- I would have assumed so |
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05/25/2026 06:37:03 PM · #3 |
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Good point! We're (SC) discussing it now. Thanks for the heads-up. |
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05/25/2026 08:27:37 PM · #4 |
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06/01/2026 07:45:31 PM · #5 |
Another question for this challenge. For minimal, you're allowed to rotate at 90 degree implements. You are not allowed to crop.
Now, if you want to break the rotation rule, how can you do it without also cropping the image? Or adding canvas? |
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06/01/2026 08:04:57 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Another question for this challenge. For minimal, you're allowed to rotate at 90 degree implements. You are not allowed to crop.
Now, if you want to break the rotation rule, how can you do it without also cropping the image? Or adding canvas? |
Isn't it interesting how breaking the rules can be harder than following them ... |
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06/04/2026 06:02:14 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Isn't it interesting how breaking the rules can be harder than following them ... |
Yes indeed
Iām currently racking my brains trying to figure out what single rule violation one could possibly identify |
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06/04/2026 11:15:35 AM · #8 |
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Is shooting Raw and just using the default demosaicing just breaking one rule? I can read it several ways. |
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06/04/2026 06:09:24 PM · #9 |
can someone please explain this challenge to me ..
"Break any ONE of the Minimal Editing rules, but don't tell us which one in the title... let the voters guess!"
if you break a minimal edit rule wouldnt it then be a dq .. ?? ..
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06/04/2026 06:32:30 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by roz:
can someone please explain this challenge to me ..
"Break any ONE of the Minimal Editing rules, but don't tell us which one in the title... let the voters guess!"
if you break a minimal edit rule wouldnt it then be a dq .. ?? .. |
Not as long as you only break one rule. It's a special exception for this challenge. So lightening shadows or cloning out a bright spot or dodging a catchlight or cropping or toning B&W or... something along those lines. You'll need to tell SC which rule you broke (please).
To answer the RAW question, I don't think you can break just one rule shooting in RAW, since opening it in an editing program introduces all kinds of adjustments. At least, that's always been my understanding. I wouldn't risk it.
And to answer Deb's rotation question, you're right, you'd have to crop or add canvas, and then you'd be breaking two rules š
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06/04/2026 07:44:16 PM · #11 |
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thanks for clearing that up Mary ..xx.. |
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06/04/2026 07:55:47 PM · #12 |
I'm still confused... what is "ONE rule" that we are allowed to break? Here is a quote from Minimal ruleset:
"You may not...
- make any other adjustments to your image than those listed above. This includes, but is not limited to, cropping, adjusting brightness, hue/saturation, levels, curves, etc. Except as provided above, your image as entered must be identical to the original image as it came out of the camera.
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is this one rule or many rules packed in one item? If "no other adjustments" is a rule, than logically making any other adjustments (one or many) would be breaking this one rule. But I guess this is not what was meant here, right? Then what exactly is one rule - prohibition of a single adjustment? It would be cleaner if the description stated "You are allowed to make a single adjustment to your image". But even that would not be totally unambiguous. For example, one could wonder, is cropping a single adjustment or perhaps two, since we change width and height of the image separately? Or changing brightness and contrast - is it one or two? Sounds like two, but alternatively you can apply levels or curves once and change both of these... Hmm. |
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06/04/2026 08:23:05 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by LevT:
I'm still confused... what is "ONE rule" that we are allowed to break? Here is a quote from Minimal ruleset:
"You may not...
- make any other adjustments to your image than those listed above. This includes, but is not limited to, cropping, adjusting brightness, hue/saturation, levels, curves, etc. Except as provided above, your image as entered must be identical to the original image as it came out of the camera.
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is this one rule or many rules packed in one item? If "no other adjustments" is a rule, than logically making any other adjustments (one or many) would be breaking this one rule. But I guess this is not what was meant here, right? Then what exactly is one rule - prohibition of a single adjustment? It would be cleaner if the description stated "You are allowed to make a single adjustment to your image". But even that would not be totally unambiguous. For example, one could wonder, is cropping a single adjustment or perhaps two, since we change width and height of the image separately? Or changing brightness and contrast - is it one or two? Sounds like two, but alternatively you can apply levels or curves once and change both of these... Hmm. |
yes Mary made it clearer ..
but i still had questions too Lev .. :) |
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06/04/2026 08:53:07 PM · #14 |
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My plan is to break ALL the rules but produce a shitty enough image as to not place it in the scrutinized top 5. |
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06/04/2026 08:56:22 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
My plan is to break ALL the rules but produce a shitty enough image as to not place it in the scrutinized top 5. |
good plan .. š¤£š |
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06/04/2026 09:11:19 PM · #16 |
The Minimal rule cited is many in one-- it would be a boring list to write it out "You may not ___" for every prohibited step, even if we could think of them all (see below).
Maybe think of it as "operations" rather than "adjustments."
Cropping is one operation.
Applying Curves or Hue/Saturation (once) is one operation.
WARNING:
Photoshop (and perhaps other programs) allows you to rotate the cropping selection rectangle -- if you do this entirely within the boundaries of your image you can rotate without leaving any blank edges.
I personally would consider this a single operation (crop) and allowable for this challenge, however I have historically often been out-voted on validation questions, so I suggest soliciting other opinions before using this technique.
Originally posted by Henry David Thoreau (attributed):
It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious. |
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06/05/2026 12:50:24 PM · #17 |
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Hmmm... I still think if you rotate and crop, even within the bounds of your photograph, you're still breaking two rules - rotation AND crop. It IS really hard to break just one rule! |
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