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08/12/2002 08:09:19 PM · #1 |
OK,
I tried this once before and had no sucess.
This is addressed to all the people who categorically hate B&W, and especially the one person who cut/pasted this comment onto numerous photos this week:
What is it about black and what that you hate so much?
-Terry
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08/12/2002 08:27:02 PM · #2 |
hey - I got that comment too!
What was really funny is that I got many comments saying how good the B&W was and then this one.
Just ignore - that's what i try to do.
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08/12/2002 08:37:13 PM · #3 |
| Life as it is is in color and to go beyond that for some folks is a big change and scares the heck out of them. I for one love it all. People need to look deeper then what their minds will allow! :) Just had to put my 2 cents in. |
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08/12/2002 08:51:33 PM · #4 |
Terry, I got the same cut and paste comment on my submission for something old. When it's on nearly every b&w entry in a challenge...then you have to wonder if they are even taking time to view them.
btw...I don't mean to change the subject, but I posted this in another thread and no one really said anything. Good or bad, I can take it. Do you think this would have done any better for the last challenge?
color A/C
I actually had taken it and was going to submit it that way....some of the suggestions I got on the one I did submit lead me to believe that this one would have done better. Oh well... :)
Karen
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08/12/2002 09:03:10 PM · #5 |
Karen I can't decide if I like the outtake better.Maybe it shows the age better in color because it is a brownish. The B&W might be a little to stark for showing the age of the fan. Maybe if it were grainer, or the background was a little darker.
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08/12/2002 09:49:16 PM · #6 |
| Karen, I really like the subject just the way it is. I think I would like it in b/w too. Does the fan still work? :) |
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08/12/2002 09:49:25 PM · #7 |
| Karen, I like both of them equally. |
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08/12/2002 10:01:13 PM · #8 |
| Thanks guys....I appreciate it, and Sonifo, yes! it still works. Amazing huh? |
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08/12/2002 10:03:02 PM · #9 |
Is this comment one that hates black and white or hates black and white as a format for the 'new' challenge?
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08/12/2002 10:07:46 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Is this comment one that hates black and white or hates black and white as a format for the 'new' challenge?
It was for the 'old ' challenge. This person left the same comment on several photos.
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08/12/2002 10:08:06 PM · #11 |
Actually, these were comments on "Something Old" made by MagsCoyote... 7 of his last 10 comments were all that post cut and pasted... Probably more too... Sounds like someone that thought there were too many BW photos and decided to say they were all ruined... To each his/her own
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Is this comment one that hates black and white or hates black and white as a format for the 'new' challenge?
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08/12/2002 10:12:57 PM · #12 |
cant make everyone happy :)
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08/12/2002 10:41:35 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by myqyl:
Actually, these were comments on "Something Old" made by MagsCoyote... 7 of his last 10 comments were all that post cut and pasted... Probably more too... Sounds like someone that thought there were too many BW photos and decided to say they were all ruined... To each his/her own
That's who I was referring to... he left similat comments ("b/w sucks") in a previous challenge as well. I know he reads and posts in the forums so I was hoping he would respond in this forum and give some insight as to why he seemingly dislikes black and white so much -- it might also help explain why others feel the same way. We can all speculate but I'd rather have someone who hates b/w tell me why he or she hates b/w.
-Terry
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08/12/2002 10:50:09 PM · #14 |
My take on BW is that I have seen it used well and not so well here. Certain images lend themselves well to it and others dont.. knowing when and why is the key..
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08/12/2002 11:31:05 PM · #15 |
| I am also learning the hard way that people don't like black and white, I notice that from the comments. Some say that they would prefer it in colour, yet strangly enough my picture wouldn't have looked much different in colour. I feel that black and white enhanced the picture. Like you guys say, it scares certain people! |
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08/13/2002 12:09:55 AM · #16 |
| I would have posted mine in color but the color was really bland. It wasn't like my steel bridge picture was painted blue or pink or anything like that maybe if it was I would have chose to keep the color. |
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08/13/2002 01:28:27 AM · #17 |
Almost half of the pictures that I have submitted have been in b&w, and as of yet I haven’t been penalized for its use,.. but my choice to use b&w is very selective, it takes a certain subject with certain lighting to make the choice to submit something in b&w. each time i shoot i ask myself is this a color or black and white shot. Usually an image that requires an emotion to be invoked or contrasting lines to sell the image will get the b&w choice. but it has to feel right and speak to you in a subconscious level... im not sure if that made sense but then I don’t usually try to put my internal thoughts in words... photography is about senses. Just feel it.
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08/13/2002 01:40:21 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Ronin:
Almost half of the pictures that I have submitted have been in b&w, and as of yet I haven’t been penalized for its use,.. but my choice to use b&w is very selective, it takes a certain subject with certain lighting to make the choice to submit something in b&w. each time i shoot i ask myself is this a color or black and white shot. Usually an image that requires an emotion to be invoked or contrasting lines to sell the image will get the b&w choice. but it has to feel right and speak to you in a subconscious level... im not sure if that made sense but then I don’t usually try to put my internal thoughts in words... photography is about senses. Just feel it.
Neil,
Do you use B&W mode on your S85 or do you convert post processing?
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08/13/2002 03:45:55 AM · #19 |
My first few submissions were taken with the b&w option on the camera. I look at things differently when i go out to shoot knowing what I take will be b&w. I come from a long line of film users so that mentality of making your eyes see what the outcome will be, for the particular film still lives in me. So at first the b&w option was nice. Now im starting to get used to Photoshop, and now I like having the opportunity to change my photo in the post production. Still though when I go out to shoot i always pretend i have film loaded in my camera. it changes the way my eyes view the subject. ... but then remember im really an odd cat.
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08/13/2002 04:07:52 AM · #20 |
I love black and white where used appropriately. For some photos the colour is an absolutely vital component. Convert the photo to black and white and a real winner becomes mediocre and lifeless. In other photos black and white makes th picture come alive. It depends a lot on what the subject is, what the lighting is, whether or not there is enough contrast between the colours to work in black and white. In a colour photo there may be two elements side by side which are completely different colours, both vivid hues. Sometimes in black and white they come out as almost the same colour and the shapes are lost. Sometimes I see a photo with an absolutely great foreground but with some item in the background is bright bright red and shouts out. In black and white that item might fade away and be far less distracting.
Anyway, seems someone who has a bias against black and white shouldn’t be allowed to lower the scores of all black and white photos this way. If the photos don’t work in black and white on an individual level, that’s fine. Many don’t. But to blanket vote down all black and whites regardless seems to me to be totally unfair.
Is there a rule against blanket voting to lower groups of photos to make some personal statement? (Votes should be on the merit of each photo).
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Very bad.
Anyway, I love b/w when used well.
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08/13/2002 06:04:10 AM · #21 |
Up until a few weeks ago, I have never really been a great fan of black and white, but recently I have started converting a few of my photos into black and white. I was surprised to see that they actually looked quite good, and a lot of the time far more professional.
These types of photos I think wotk well in B&W most of the time:
Portraits (as long as the background is monotone)
Archetecture (bleh, spelling)
These will hardly ever work well in B&W
Landscapes (too much fine detail with similar shades in landscape photos for it to work)
Photos of anything when the sky is clear (without clouds, the sky looks too plain in B&W, whereas in colour photos the sky colour is very much part of the mood of the photo) |
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08/13/2002 06:20:18 AM · #22 |
| I did a high contrast B&W, and found the comments were split 50/50 between 'loved the contrast' and 'ugh too contrasty', hence prooving that 50% of dpc commentators have bad taste. Now I just have to work out which half. |
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08/13/2002 06:21:22 AM · #23 |
| not "bad" taste, just different :) |
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08/13/2002 06:32:37 AM · #24 |
hi everybody,
just been reading this thread!!!! I learnt photography first in colour then was taught B&W now doing digital. B&W is truly the most authentic photography as this medium lets people see what is there and not be distracted by colour or anything else.
Don't get me wrong I love all types of photography
This is my thought on this |
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08/13/2002 01:24:09 PM · #25 |
I have had similar thoughts as Jason. Many times the only thing that makes a photograph interesting is the color and that can be a crutch. b&w makes you really think about composition, texture and lighting. i do prefer b&w but there are some amazing color images. I can appreciate any image that is well thought out and well executed be it color or b&w.
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