"Cardboard Box III" Challenge Results Recalculated

Fujifilm XF 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 R LM OIS WR

01/29/2022 10:35:31 AM · #1

The former 5th-place entry in the "Cardboard Box III" challenge has been disqualified because it did not follow the artwork rule:

Originally posted by Common Editing Rules:

You may include existing artwork in your entry, but photo-realistic artwork such as printed photos, monitor images or realistic illustrations must either be clearly presented as artwork or used only as a minor supporting element. Using photo-realistic artwork to simulate physical objects or backgrounds that provide the primary impact of an entry will be grounds for disqualification.

In this case, the entire image is of a computer monitor screen displaying the artwork, but this is nowhere made obvious in the image-as-entered.

Congrats to our new HM.

primabarbara

Fujifilm X-T1

01/29/2022 11:39:27 AM · #2

Hm, my first disqualification...

I didn't rate the words in the background as photorealistic artwork. My bad...

noraneko

Canon EOS R5

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/29/2022 11:45:49 AM · #3

I understand the DQ, but it's an amazing image regardless. One of my favorites from that challenge.

Fujifilm XF 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 R LM OIS WR

01/29/2022 12:05:21 PM · #4

Originally posted by primabarbara:

I didn't rate the words in the background as photorealistic artwork. My bad...

It's not just that: it's the fact that the entire thing is seen on the screen, and only on the screen. Accordingly, we have no proof that the boxes even are yours or that they were shot within the challenge time frame. All we have as a proof image is a shot of your monitor screen.

primabarbara

Fujifilm X-T1

01/29/2022 12:22:55 PM · #5

Yes I do understand, that you have no proof...
But I can show you how I did it nevertheless ;-) just for the sake of entertainment:
this is my partner, helping me to arrange the cardboard boxes

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by primabarbara:
I didn't rate the words in the background as photorealistic artwork. My bad...

It's not just that: it's the fact that the entire thing is seen on the screen, and only on the screen. Accordingly, we have no proof that the boxes even are yours or that they were shot within the challenge time frame. All we have as a proof image is a shot of your monitor screen.

MargaretNet

Sony DSC-RX100 VII

01/29/2022 12:50:00 PM · #6

Aha! Boxes arranged on the screen projection. I think the SC should rethink the DQ, this is not a direct shot of a monitor screen, the boxes are real!

Olympus 17mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko

01/29/2022 12:58:58 PM · #7

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

Aha! Boxes arranged on the screen projection. I think the SC should rethink the DQ, this is not a direct shot of a monitor screen, the boxes are real!

Well, there's still the issue of whether the text superimposition is "photo-realistic artwork to simulate physical objects or backgrounds that provide the primary impact of an entry". But it IS an interesting conundrum. I'll bring it up in SC discussion. I'm torn... I'd love to reinstate the image if the rest agree :-)

Message edited by author 2022-01-29 13:00:22.

PennyStreet

Olympus OM-D E-M1

01/29/2022 02:06:46 PM · #8

I'm glad this is being discussed and hope for reinstatement. What a clever setup!

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

01/29/2022 03:12:08 PM · #9

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by MargaretNet:
Aha! Boxes arranged on the screen projection. I think the SC should rethink the DQ, this is not a direct shot of a monitor screen, the boxes are real!

Well, there's still the issue of whether the text superimposition is "photo-realistic artwork to simulate physical objects or backgrounds that provide the primary impact of an entry". But it IS an interesting conundrum. I'll bring it up in SC discussion. I'm torn... I'd love to reinstate the image if the rest agree :-)

I thought this technique had been used for photos before. I could see how you thought it was a photo of a computer screen, but I think this offers enough proof that itâ��s not. I vote for reinstatement

I thought someone had done this with text over someoneâ��s face. I canâ��t remember who or what the challenge was. I know Iâ��ve thought of doing it before, but never followed through.

anyone remember what challenge had a face with something projected on it?

Venser

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

01/29/2022 03:55:58 PM · #10

I remember there was a lot of discussion over this photo that was a monitor photo, albeit with some saran wrap and Mylar placed in front.