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 11/09/2004 03:12:13 PM · #101
How about, "You may add a simple, tasteful border to enhance the outside edge of your image. Too much enhancement will result in a heated forum debate. Any user found to have no taste will have their account suspended until proof of eye exam is provided."
 11/09/2004 03:14:44 PM · #102
Originally posted by scalvert:
How about, "You may add a simple, tasteful border to enhance the outside edge of your image. Too much enhancement will result in a heated forum debate. Any user found to have no taste will have their account suspended until proof of eye exam is provided."


I think 'tasteful' would be an excellent word to put in the rules :)
 11/09/2004 03:14:56 PM · #103
Originally posted by scalvert:
How about, "You may add a simple, tasteful border to enhance the outside edge of your image. Too much enhancement will result in a heated forum debate. Any user found to have no taste will have their account suspended until proof of eye exam is provided."


ROTFLMAO
 11/09/2004 03:21:17 PM · #104
I'm still hiding...

In trouble again!
 11/09/2004 03:21:59 PM · #105
Gordon .... perhaps the point he's trying to make is this "new rule" could help to hold the entire site to a certain "standard of presentation quality".

Kinda like having to wear a tie at certain restaurants.

... perhaps he just thinks they're way kewl!

Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by scalvert:
EddyG, please post a tutorial on your zip-zaggy border.

Check out this ultra-sweet mega-cool legal border:

Should I do them both in one tutorial?


While you are obviously free to express your creativity any way you feel fit, I don't quite get the problem with these. Yes they are legal under the current rules. (though may meander in to artwork and clip art for this new one)

But - so what ? I might think they are hideous, and vote your whole picture low. I might love it and want to buy one. I've seen worse for sale as borders around real photo greeting cards.

You don't need a new rule to arbitrate taste or lack of it. So I don't quite get the point of these.
11/09/2004 03:22:03 PM · #106
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think 'tasteful' would be an excellent word to put in the rules :)

Yes, the rules need a lot more subjectivity, with words like "simple" and "tasteful" and less objectivity (like the wording of the proposed border rule). That way it can be even more unclear to new users what you can and can't do.
 11/09/2004 03:27:06 PM · #107
Originally posted by hopper:
Gordon .... perhaps the point he's trying to make is this "new rule" could help to hold the entire site to a certain "standard of presentation quality".

Kinda like having to wear a tie at certain restaurants.

First time I've heard of the patrons picketing an establishment to implement a dress code.
 11/09/2004 03:37:34 PM · #108
I vote âNOâ even though I donât know how to manipulate boarders. I use simple boarders when I feel it helps the photo in this case .
Without the boarder it would lose some of its impact on the right side of the image. But if I knew how to create [with efficiency] these types of boarders in question I would if it helps describe the meaning of the image. A great example is this image. The see through boarder helps show the strike zone to me.

11/09/2004 03:38:50 PM · #109
Originally posted by BradP:
In trouble again!


LOL! I'll bet you were pretty excited as you strode to the podium to accept your ribbon... and then you triptyched.

Message edited by author 2004-11-09 15:40:43.
 11/09/2004 03:41:01 PM · #110
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think 'tasteful' would be an excellent word to put in the rules :)

Yes, the rules need a lot more subjectivity, with words like "simple" and "tasteful" and less objectivity (like the wording of the proposed border rule). That way it can be even more unclear to new users what you can and can't do.


Exactly... add 'pretty' and 'emotional' and 'thought provoking' to that list while you are at it...

11/09/2004 03:42:13 PM · #111
Originally posted by BradP:
I'm still hiding...

In trouble again!


ROTFLMAO

Brad, I hope you are not getting distraught about this, you got a great picture and deserve the ribbon. We go through this kind of discussion every other month it seems...
 11/09/2004 03:51:37 PM · #112
"You may add a single rectangular frame, with or without inline and no more than 12 pixels wide, to the outside edge of your photo. Violators will be forced to use film."

No ambiguity there. ;-)
 11/09/2004 03:52:07 PM · #113
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think 'tasteful' would be an excellent word to put in the rules :)

Yes, the rules need a lot more subjectivity, with words like "simple" and "tasteful" and less objectivity (like the wording of the proposed border rule). That way it can be even more unclear to new users what you can and can't do.


Still at a loss Eddy. What's unclear about the current rules on borders ? Who are these new users that are so confused ? BradP ? e301 ? It seems like a rule change in search of a reason right now.

The only 'problem' I see is someone creatively enhanced an already good image and some folk seem put out that they didn't think of it first. It was fine 6 months ago when it was allowed then. It isn't like some huge cadre of new users have shown up with pink squiggly borders in tow, dragging the site down to a toys'r'us level.

If the SC are DQing vast quantities of new users each week that we aren't hearing from, I'll happily support the new rule. But until then, lets talk about the actual issue and not make up random strawman arguments.


11/09/2004 04:08:00 PM · #114
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by BradP:
I'm still hiding...

In trouble again!


ROTFLMAO

Brad, I hope you are not getting distraught about this, you got a great picture and deserve the ribbon.

Thanks.

Distraught? Not on your life!

A DPC Membership: $25.00/year
An eBay Used E-10: $460.00
The DPC Border Poll: Priceless

Now if someone has an extra copy of CS, I can really have some fun!

LOL


11/09/2004 04:17:36 PM · #115
Originally posted by Gordon:
Still at a loss Eddy. What's unclear about the current rules on borders ?

My comment was on the general problem of "subjective rules" (ones that are described by terms like "simple" and "tasteful") when compared to objective rules which are not open to "debate" or "personal opinion". With objective rules ("Text is not permitted anywhere on your submitted photo"), it is easy to understand, and easy to enforce.

Message edited by author 2004-11-09 16:22:40.
 11/09/2004 04:32:32 PM · #116
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Still at a loss Eddy. What's unclear about the current rules on borders ?

My comment was on the general problem of "subjective rules" (ones that are described by terms like "simple" and "tasteful") when compared to objective rules which are not open to "debate" or "personal opinion". With objective rules ("Text is not permitted anywhere on your submitted photo"), it is easy to understand, and easy to enforce.


Ah - so the border rule isn't unclear as stands then.

So what's the reason to change it ?
 11/09/2004 04:33:48 PM · #117
I vote for closing this thread. "Tasteful" is too subjective and dependent on the gaudy and twadry tolerance. To the gaudy simple is grotesque to the more conservative.
 11/09/2004 04:39:59 PM · #118
The word "tasteful" was intentionally chosen as a joke BECAUSE it's so subjective. Lighten up!
 11/09/2004 04:40:32 PM · #119
I wanna vote on Macro.
11/09/2004 04:47:56 PM · #120
Originally posted by scalvert:
The word "tasteful" was intentionally chosen as a joke BECAUSE it's so subjective. Lighten up!

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No deep passion here. lol I have just noticed from reading all entries that the word tasteful was indeed used in its serious tone by many. I do understand the sense of humor, I just wanted to address those that feel that tasteful can be defined. I guess you all did it better with the sense of humor. Dense little me. lol
 11/09/2004 04:52:49 PM · #121
so who is it that is licking the computer screen? Can anyone tell me if my photos taste good?

please ;)~
 11/09/2004 04:54:17 PM · #122
Originally posted by ericlimon:
so who is it that is licking the computer screen? Can anyone tell me if my photos taste good?


YE-OOOOUCH! Important tip: be sure to discharge any static electricity before determining taste. Mmmm... grasshoppery goodness!

Message edited by author 2004-11-09 16:56:00.
 11/09/2004 04:54:40 PM · #123
Originally posted by ericlimon:
so who is it that is licking the computer screen? Can anyone tell me if my photos taste good?

please ;)~


It was all those people who commented that it was out of focus! Hard to see after you lick all over it!
 11/09/2004 05:23:01 PM · #124
it's pretty close.
I think this is so stupid. why i hear the arguments & all on the latest discussions on consistency & all with BradP's 3rd place win but are we really gonna ban borders?

11/09/2004 05:28:48 PM · #125
For what it's worth, I usually use a single line and some whitespace around a photo. But.. imho, the presentation is part of the image I want to present and as such I resent the idea that borders should be forbidden just because others don't like it. Vote me down, but don't tell me how to present my photos.
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