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02/17/2003 11:19:45 PM · #1
This is my first try at threads. I used my sony 717 and took some portrait pictures outdoors in the shade. Bad part is that I had my camera settings incorrect. (just learning). My setting was with the camera symbol and the P next to it. This enabled me to move the focus point where I needed to go. I forgot that there was other setting involve in the menu selection. So, needless to say all the pictures were darkened and are un-usable. Is there a way I can correct this with my camera or with software. I tried a little bit with photoshop 7.0
but I am also learning that as I go.

Ok here is a sample picture.
//home.graffiti.net/d1reyes/pictures/display.html

Message edited by author 2003-02-19 00:38:35.
02/18/2003 08:34:29 AM · #2
Look at the histogram in the 'levels' feature (Ctrl-L in older versions of PS). If all shades are on the left side in one big lump there's very little hope. If there is sufficient spread over the intensity scale - say up to 128, you can change the sliders and, possibly, the gamma so the intensities that you originally recorded are covering the whole output gamma from black to white. Look at the effect while you make the changes and see when enough is enough.
Good Luck,
JohnMK
02/18/2003 07:52:36 PM · #3
Thanks johnmk,

It looks alot better. I am still looking for more feedback. Using the levels feature somewhat corrected the person in the picture but somewhat changed the background by making it to light. I will try lasso-ing the person out and making a layer. Then I will place that layer on the original picture. At least that will be my attempt. Still learning the photoshop 7 software.
thank again john.
02/18/2003 08:00:14 PM · #4
David, you would likely get more feedback if you posted the photos for us to see.
Grab yourself a pbase account (still free I think) and post a link in here.
02/18/2003 08:09:56 PM · #5
Sounds like you may have wanted to use fill flash when taking the photos. Unfortunately this comment doesn't help you with correcting the already taken pictures.
02/18/2003 08:41:45 PM · #6
David,
Try correcting with levels to get the background where you need it. The person will still be too dark. Then use the dodge tool (select a brush almost the width of the person) and gradually lighten the person.
02/19/2003 12:41:24 AM · #7
Here is a sample picture of my botched up shoot.

//home.graffiti.net/d1reyes/pictures/display.JPG
02/19/2003 02:50:03 PM · #8
I downloaded the picture and just pulled up the gamma (the middle one of the 3 sliders you have in 'levels') to 1.15 and got a better view at the faces, while still having a fairly nice picture of the setting as a whole. Did you try that?
02/19/2003 03:17:54 PM · #9
I can't resist having a fiddle around with Photoshop, I hope you don't mind..



Not brilliant, but I did it fairly quickly.

Here's what I did:

1) Increased brightness and reduced contrast just enough to fix the light parts of the pic (left-hand side, dress, sunlight)

2) Magic wand selected all the remaining dark parts that looked bad (shadows on the top right only (not on the ground) the groom's suit and the bride's face). Tolerance was set to 22 and I had antialiasing on.

3) Increased brightness again to match the brightness of the rest of the pic.

4) Selected the entire image and increased contrast slightly to improve vibrancy and knocked brightness down a little.

With a little playing I guess you could make a much better job than I did. Probably a good point of reference is to make sure the shadows you do change the colour of match the ones that you don't, which I notice I didn't do. :-)

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02/19/2003 03:32:53 PM · #10
Musicman,

You might want to get a copy of this: Sony Ebook. It has some Photoshop actions on the CD that you can load to fix the problem you are describing with a couple of mouse clicks. It comes with a B-load of data on the camera and tips, tricks and information on the 707/717 that didn't come with the camera. The book is worth the price of the Photoshop additions alone. I think you'll be pleased with what the book has to offer considering you're new to your 717. Give it a try and let us know how it worked. . .
02/19/2003 03:36:12 PM · #11
Another (better) way of doing it is the following:

1) Duplicate your image layer.
2) Desaturate the new layer to greyscale
3) Set the new layer as a Screen
4) Insert a new layer below it and fill it black
5) Merge the new greyscale layer and the black layer (CTRL+E on the greyscale layer)
5) Invert the new layer
6) Set the type of the layer to Lighten
7) Fiddle with the opacity of the lighten layer accordingly
8) Insert a 'Levels' layer between your image and the lightening layer
9) Fiddle with the middle arrow to increase the overall brightness

Wow, that was longer than I thought.. Hope that is of some use.
02/19/2003 03:50:51 PM · #12
And if all else fails, convert to black and white and dodge the faces and arms a little. I couldn't get the original to do this on, so I grabbed the one above!



Message edited by author 2003-02-19 15:51:31.
02/20/2003 01:13:10 AM · #13
Thanks everyone,

I have tried a few suggestion and may try the other later when I have more time.
A few terms that I will need to learn such as grayscale and where to find opacity.
The dodge tool sound like a neat tool but I need to learn how you (lighten) an area.
Lastly, - crabappl3 -, is it easy to convert the colored picture to b&w like you did?

Thanks again everyone.
02/20/2003 09:52:16 AM · #14
Originally posted by MUSICMAN:

Thanks everyone,
Lastly, - crabappl3 -, is it easy to convert the colored picture to b&w like you did?

Thanks again everyone.


I have a photoshop action that I used for this one. You can also achieve this by desaturating the color channels or by going into 'Image|adjustment|gradient map' Make sure your selected colors are black and white so as to get the full gradient. If you need more assistance feel free to email me.

02/20/2003 09:59:35 AM · #15
another attempt :

3 screened duplications of the original image, with masks painted on to control the brightness adjustment (mostly to mask out the background areas that are in bright sunlight)

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