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 10/22/2004 05:59:17 AM · #76
Basically, it's join the dots - any way you choose.
: )

Disjointed impression of line = good
Connected, continous line of anything = bad

This is a no-no it seems due to the houses actually being in physical rows (despite some lines of chimneys being 'implied'). I wonder how it would be voted:
10/22/2004 06:18:41 AM · #77
I would consider this image as having implied lines.
the chimneys for example
the tops of the house lining up with eachother.. and so on

Originally posted by Imagineer:
Basically, it's join the dots - any way you choose.
: )

Disjointed impression of line = good
Connected, continous line of anything = bad

This is a no-no it seems due to the houses actually being in physical rows (despite some lines of chimneys being 'implied'). I wonder how it would be voted:

10/22/2004 07:05:20 AM · #78
Originally posted by Blackdog:
I think this challenge is going to create a whole load of those type of issues because its so based on indiviual interpretation.

Somebody mentioned the use of buildings etc. but....I've also read that a building is NOT an implied line, it is an actual line....

See what I mean?


See what mean?
 10/22/2004 07:18:54 AM · #79
OK, just to clarify for everyone who is still confused about this challenge, here is my understanding of it:

Implied - well obviously it was meant to be two words, Imp and lied, so first of all, it is about a little devilish character who plays tricks on people (think back to Bugs Bunny) and if he lied about something, it would be about...
Lines - having spent a lot of time in a queue (english word for a line for us Americans, gotta love the vowels in that one).

The human eye is very good at seeing lines - Once again, I think it is a mistake in the typing, it should be lies, not lines in keeping with the title of the challenge. We are very good at spotting falsehoods would be another way to read it...
whether they really exist or not. - well, normally if it is a lie, it is not real, so not in existence.
Take a photograph that uses implied lines - Make sure you are on the lookout for devilish characters talking about standing in queues (lines)
(for example, the "line" made by a row of trees) - so really go out to the woods and search for these imps
as a compositional element. - and make sure to photograph it like you would write a composition for English class on the Chemical Element of your choice, my personal preference would be for a molecule using the following elements from the periodic chart: 33,34,7,53,10 (look up the letter codes for those elements and put it all together).

So in conclusion you will look very 33,34,7,53,10 if you don't have a picture of an imp lying about standing in a line to purchase a chemical element, and I will be forced to vote your picture a 1 for not meeting the challenge.

Have a good day.
 10/22/2004 07:34:39 AM · #80
is this what we are looking for

a quick edited of my communication entry
how would a photo like this do in this challege
 10/22/2004 08:25:27 AM · #81
Originally posted by skief:
OK, just to clarify for everyone who is still confused about this challenge, here is my understanding of it:...

Lines - having spent a lot of time in a queue (english word for a line for us Americans, gotta love the vowels in that one)....

Have a good day.


Well thanks for clearing that up skief, only its a bit biased as "Americans" seems to warrant capitalization whereas "english" doesn't. Therefore your entry would have to be disqualified for that blatant act of anti Englishism, or should that be Great Britain???

Anyway I hope you entry gets the blue ribbon on your planet. ;-)

Message edited by author 2004-10-22 08:30:58.
 10/22/2004 10:54:31 AM · #82
Another way to think about implied lines might be through the work of
Georges Seurat

Georges (liked-dots-alot) Seurat, never did use lines in his paintings. He implied his lines with dots.
 10/22/2004 11:11:13 AM · #83
Originally posted by sfalice:
Another way to think about implied lines might be through the work of
Georges Seurat

Georges (liked-dots-alot) Seurat, never did use lines in his paintings. He implied his lines with dots.


Very interesting, much like a newpaper picture I guess?
 10/22/2004 12:50:01 PM · #84
Originally posted by Blackdog:
Originally posted by sfalice:


Very interesting, much like a newpaper picture I guess?


Well, I think of those as more like HalfTones which Roy Lichtenstein used in some of his work to great effect.
 10/22/2004 01:03:02 PM · #85
If you want to score well, you will need to figure out what the mainstream believes this challenge to be. Not what it actually is. To do that, you need to research it as much as the mainstream will... Read the first 4 or 5 posts of this thread and imagine that definition is written in stone and anything else gets a 1...

If you care more about photography then scores, there are some really good ideas in this thread and I look forward to seeing them entered:)
 10/22/2004 01:19:18 PM · #86
Just to clear up a bit for some questions.

here ya go

I know this will not be accepted by the masses on this site. They are implied lines at least in the art sense. I would not, however, enter anything like this for the challenge. I just wanted to show people that there are other ideas of implied lines out there.
 10/22/2004 01:24:26 PM · #87
Implied Synonyms: (indirect, oblique, obscure, roundabout, disguised, overt.

To me it seems like it could be a lot of things...
 10/22/2004 01:31:13 PM · #88
Originally posted by G4Ds:

here ya go

I know this will not be accepted by the masses on this site. They are implied lines at least in the art sense. I would not, however, enter anything like this for the challenge. I just wanted to show people that there are other ideas of implied lines out there.


perhaps you could of wrote what the picture had in it, instead of just a link that says, this will not be excepted, because that just makes you want to click on it. just a suggestion.
 10/22/2004 01:56:13 PM · #89
Originally posted by 1st-2-click:
is this what we are looking for

a quick edited of my communication entry
how would a photo like this do in this challege


I would give something like this an extremely high mark in this challenge. Because i can count at least 20 implied lines, a number of nice triangles, a few diagonals, and overall, it's a pretty good quality of photo. Was one of my favorites in the communication too.
 10/22/2004 02:07:05 PM · #90
I am sorry, but what?

Originally posted by riotspyne:
Originally posted by G4Ds:

here ya go

I know this will not be accepted by the masses on this site. They are implied lines at least in the art sense. I would not, however, enter anything like this for the challenge. I just wanted to show people that there are other ideas of implied lines out there.


perhaps you could of wrote what the picture had in it, instead of just a link that says, this will not be excepted, because that just makes you want to click on it. just a suggestion.
10/22/2004 02:12:28 PM · #91
Oh I see what you are getting at now. That was just clearing up for an earlier post I made in this thread. Some people had asked me questions about it so I was just showing them what I meant. I meant to say that I was responding to an earlier post I had made and must have forgot.

Message edited by author 2004-10-22 14:13:08.
 10/22/2004 02:14:43 PM · #92
So, G4Ds, I have to say I stand corrected. There are implied lines in that photo, it's just that my definition wasn't quite correct.

So yeah, there are going to be a bunch of photos that are marked as 'not meeting the challenge'...in part due to the example given in the challenge description.
 10/22/2004 02:19:11 PM · #93
Originally posted by G4Ds:
I am sorry, but what?



i just need to stop talking today and go do laundry.. :P
 10/22/2004 04:26:10 PM · #94
I am sorry but I am such a morron. Try this link.

this one better
 10/22/2004 05:41:20 PM · #95
I think this is a good example of implied lines. We see these lines but we know they aren't really drawn across the sky. Thats implied..Right?


10/22/2004 06:02:19 PM · #96
I'd apply Gordon's previous comments about another shot to this one as well:

Not really - those are actual lines - they might not exist, but they actually exist on the photo.

Originally posted by fayepek:
I think this is a good example of implied lines. We see these lines but we know they aren't really drawn across the sky. Thats implied..Right?

10/22/2004 06:28:10 PM · #97
Originally posted by fayepek:
I think this is a good example of implied lines. We see these lines but we know they aren't really drawn across the sky. Thats implied..Right?



I would say you are right on several levels... The lines don't "exist" and also the lines imply a shape (triangle)... That said, this would get a lot of "don't meet the challenge = 1" votes/comments.
 10/22/2004 06:59:53 PM · #98
Originally posted by myqyl:
Originally posted by fayepek:
I think this is a good example of implied lines. We see these lines but we know they aren't really drawn across the sky. Thats implied..Right?



I would say you are right on several levels... The lines don't "exist" and also the lines imply a shape (triangle)... That said, this would get a lot of "don't meet the challenge = 1" votes/comments.


I agree this would NOT meet the challenge. It is about implied lines.. meaning NOT THERE... which means.. not there AT ALL... wether they are REAL or not is not what matters.. it is if they are there AT ALL...
here are some examples of what i define as implied lines.....
the eye creates a 'line' connecting the wooden posts in this shot

our eye creates a 'line' between the colored dishes

our eye creates a line between the bolts

imaginary line between the white ball and black ball

our eye creates a 'line' between these two's eyes


ok you get my point....
others thoughts?? disagree agree

Message edited by author 2004-10-22 19:01:41.
 10/22/2004 07:03:21 PM · #99
all good examples in my opinion.


10/22/2004 07:05:53 PM · #100
Yes, good examples there Leaf ... except maybe the last one (though I love the photo) as I am not sure the line would be obvious without the explanation and I doubt that one would have done so well.
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