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07/31/2002 06:52:31 PM · #26 |
I think the current nomination process would work that way, as a drag-down system does not force you to pick an award. |
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07/31/2002 07:02:55 PM · #27 |
Having a select group to choose the recipients of the award would be very hard on that group. The group would be hammered for their choices, undoubtedly. Would you want to participate on a group like that and then deal with the flack you would get for your choices?
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07/31/2002 07:24:33 PM · #28 |
Having a select group to choose the recipients of the award would be very hard on that group. The group would be hammered for their choices, undoubtedly. Would you want to participate on a group like that and then deal with the flack you would get for your choices?
I keep seeing question marks, that imply a chance to convince, so I suppose I will keep trying until I learn differently. Anyway my answer to that question would be that the rewarfds outweight the possoible or ''undoubtable'' problem. Still I see no reason to announce who is on the committee, I also have not seen examples of people blowing up in the manner you expect.... I also expect people would not mind taking part.
PS - Did my earlier answer convice you of anything?
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/31/2002 7:24:32 PM. |
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07/31/2002 07:26:35 PM · #29 |
Mr. Jmsetzler, if the recipients of the award are not expecting it, then what negativity could arise from this. The award could easily be selected today from any of the past challenges. All of the comments about I think this one should have been selected or that one is a better choice, would be a waste of effort. The photos for the awards should be selected by a group of people who know what to look for in each category. They should be the Ideal use of a technique so that other photographers can see it. Then they too can include this skill in their quiver of arrows and duplicate that technique in the future.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/31/2002 7:34:52 PM. |
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07/31/2002 07:36:29 PM · #30 |
the negativity that i see arising from it is when a photographer feels that his or her shot deserved the reward more than the one that got it...
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07/31/2002 07:38:41 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: the negativity that i see arising from it is when a photographer feels that his or her shot deserved the reward more than the one that got it...
And such is life - all the more reason a "qualified" committee would better serve the calling. |
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07/31/2002 07:46:18 PM · #32 |
Not once have I seen a comment made from a photographer about how his or her photo should have won over another photo. |
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07/31/2002 09:06:35 PM · #33 |
You go girl!. I agree with you entirely aelith |
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07/31/2002 09:16:01 PM · #34 |
A committee is one thing, but as far as the LEARNING aspect of the site goes, and as far as it being more interactive for the majority of participants, this (for anyone that didn''t jump over to the other thread, is what I envision):
Imagine if while voting,there was a drop down menu that let you give a ''special award'' to a photo you thought deserving. There would be numerous categories on there, like:
"Grossest" "Artiest" "Most Creative" "Most Shmaltzy" "Dumbest" "Sexiest" "Best Focus" "Most Hangable (On the Wall)" "Most Obscure" "Funniest" "Scariest" "Most Science Fiction-y" "Tells a Story"
Etc.
It would be as simple as picking it off a drop-down menu.
Then when the results were posted, images that had received the most awards for their respective category could also be listed.
This would give all KINDS of recognition to every niche and creative-style on here, instead of just ''lumping'' everyone together into one undifferentiated, fused, burrito of results.
I personally like fun, and more ''human'' categories, in addition to technical ones like ''most ideal focal plane'' and ''least perceptible pincushion distortion'' ;) ... But there is room for that too.
I think this site is about something for everyone, and to that end, should be as interactive and participatory as possible. Rather than deferring all that stuff to ''committees''.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/31/2002 9:16:34 PM. |
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07/31/2002 09:21:34 PM · #35 |
I'd like to approach this from a different angle. I don't think these kinds of awards should be given at the end of voting, nor do I think they should be given out every week. Perhaps if an image so moves people that it receives 'several' nominations for an award (I think like the "favorite photos" are assigned) that it be discussed in an open thread and if "enough" agree, is then awarded.
Just a thought |
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07/31/2002 09:35:27 PM · #36 |
i think that's exactly the perfect approach to a commitee of special awards.
however, i think the ability to indicate appreciation for a particular attribute of a photo should be a regular part of the experience :)
Originally posted by myqyl: I'd like to approach this from a different angle. I don't think these kinds of awards should be given at the end of voting, nor do I think they should be given out every week. Perhaps if an image so moves people that it receives 'several' nominations for an award (I think like the "favorite photos" are assigned) that it be discussed in an open thread and if "enough" agree, is then awarded.
Just a thought
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07/31/2002 09:48:20 PM · #37 |
maybe if the consensus says so, we could form a group of people who make 'picks of the week' and then describe why they picked the particular photo...
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07/31/2002 10:46:49 PM · #38 |
Well, whatever the majority decide is fine by me. I'm mainly here to do a challenge photo and improve my technique.
If you are gonna have a committee you better just make it up of people who don't mind getting bitched at or second guessed every day..thats the way that usually goes.
Plus, most of the sites who have committees or specialty judge panels don't allow the judges to participate in the photo contest to avoid stuff like I mentioned above reaching nuclear levels. Are people volunteering to not play here any longer to steer these committees?
I'm not leaning to any specific format other than my stated preference of photographic categories. So long as the once a week challenge remains anything will work for me. |
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08/01/2002 08:10:10 AM · #39 |
I would assume those on a committee could not win the award within their own committee, but it does not keep them from winning other awards or taking part in the main competition.....
Oh, and I think it might be nice to give out some awards for Tutorials. |
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08/01/2002 09:13:29 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by Agamemnon: Oh, and I think it might be nice to give out some awards for Tutorials.
In my opinion, having a tutorial posted IS an award :) And probably one of the most meaningful ones any of us can aspire to... But that's just me :)
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08/01/2002 09:16:18 AM · #41 |
If you want to write a tutorial on a certain subject, please feel free :)
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08/01/2002 09:17:15 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: If you want to write a tutorial on a certain subject, please feel free :)
LoL, as soon as I learn how to DO something :)
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08/01/2002 09:39:41 AM · #43 |
I don't like the committee idea. I like the way we were discussing it before -- users get to vote.
Drew |
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08/01/2002 10:02:31 AM · #44 |
Me too. I think in anything like this, there should be input from more than just a select group. |
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08/01/2002 11:02:50 AM · #45 |
Agreed... the user vote determines everything here... I don't see a real reason to change it now...
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08/01/2002 11:11:52 AM · #46 |
My arguement has failed, oh well, life goes on.
Any ideas on how many voter nominations are required for someone to get one of these awards? I assume it has to be more than one or two? |
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08/01/2002 11:21:30 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by Agamemnon: My arguement has failed, oh well, life goes on.
Any ideas on how many voter nominations are required for someone to get one of these awards? I assume it has to be more than one or two?
I would assume that it would work just like voting does now... there would likely be optional 'superlative' vote choices on the voting page. The photo with the most votes for one specific category would get the 'award'??
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08/01/2002 11:26:35 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Agamemnon: My arguement has failed, oh well, life goes on.
Any ideas on how many voter nominations are required for someone to get one of these awards? I assume it has to be more than one or two?
Agamemnon,
Let's try something... give me your list of special category awards that *you* would like to see... We will have a little fun with this and see what happens...
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08/01/2002 11:57:19 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: Originally posted by Agamemnon: [i]My arguement has failed, oh well, life goes on.
Any ideas on how many voter nominations are required for someone to get one of these awards? I assume it has to be more than one or two?
I would assume that it would work just like voting does now... there would likely be optional 'superlative' vote choices on the voting page. The photo with the most votes for one specific category would get the 'award'?? [/i]
I think I have a possible solution; given that the person being awarded has shown skill in the that category, then perhaps that person should choose the next recipient of the awardâ€Â¦ The first ever award being given by the moderators! It would be simple, and if the person didn't want the option to choose the next person to get it – it would again pass to the moderatorâ€Â¦
What thinks everybody?
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08/01/2002 12:03:57 PM · #50 |
I am one of those folks that see the DP Challenge as a "Peoples Award" site.
There are lots...Dozens..of sites where the award (be it a monetary/prize thing or just an attaboy) are controlled by a select few.
Heck..even the Jones Soda site..the public photo site to end all sites... has a Jones Soda employee pick.
I say leave it to the people..at the very least it will lead to more interesting discussions in the forums :-)
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/1/2002 12:05:35 PM. |
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