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 07/23/2002 01:23:16 PM · #1
OK, this is only to gauge interest and practicality so I can take it to my boss as a suggestion. I make no promises about any of the following.

I work as a photographer for a non-profit educational software company. Sometimes we have needs for shots that I can't get for a variety of reasons (equipment, locale, time, whatever). Generally we can find those shots through a stock house, but they usually run more than we can really afford to pay. Usually, we end up changing lessons to match what we can get instead.

To give you an idea, these photos are often used in situations like this (among others):
3 photos are on a screen. The 1st shows a child eating candy, the 2nd shows a child reading a book in bad light, and the 3rd shows a child brushing their teeth. The computer asks the child going through the software which picture shows a child doing something that will help make their teeth healthier. The child then clicks on the appropriate picture. These pictures might be re-used in another lesson that talks about healthy food, or maybe in one that talks about light. You never know. They might be cropped in tight just to show a child's face, or cropped wide to show the whole body.

I know that some of you do great work and may either already have what we need in your files, or might be willing to get it for us. We probably wouldn't be able to pay much, but rather than telling you what our limits are -- I'd love feedback from you as to what you'd require. I'm guessing that we'd post CFPhotos somewhere with a specific description of what we were looking for and a deadline for submission, and let people submit. We'd then choose the one we wanted to use, and work out some kind of contract. (I'm guessing it would be standard so you knew what you were getting going into everything.) Based on how we use stock from our library now, we'd probably want unlimited use within the current and future products (but not for anything company identity wise). In other words, we'd want to be able to crop or otherwise alter the photo to suit our purposes and possibly use it over and over as we needed it (like I mentioned above). You would, of course, retain the copyright on the photo. If we needed model releases because you were shooting people, we'd provide the releases and you'd have to get the info to fill them out.

I have the feeling that what we're asking for and what we'd be willing to pay might be incompatible with some of your goals. You won't be able to make a living doing work for us. :-) (I hardly make a living working for us.) I see it more as a chance to have a little fun, do something we all dream of in a small way, and make a little extra prop money for dpc on the side.

Let me know what you think -- feedback is welcome.
 07/23/2002 01:26:27 PM · #2
i''m certainly not much into ''people shots'' but if there are requirements for any of the shots i like doing (and think i''m better at than people), i''d be more than happy to try and submit something. it''ll be a good thing to get onto a resume even if there''s not much pay involved. so, i''m all for posting what you need somewhere.


* This message has been edited by the author on 7/23/2002 1:26:44 PM.
 07/23/2002 01:33:42 PM · #3
Hey Jeff;

Well, here is what companies I work for do.

If its non-profit most of the time the photographer will allow the photo to be used unconditionally for non-profit use. Either for a one shot PR Campaign or for an ongoing educational thing.

If an image starts to be used in a profit oriented venue then some payment in relation to the money being earned would be in order.

I don''t know what the going rate for a stock photo is..What do stock photos get on the market now?

If the image turns into an iconclastic piece in great demand on its own (T-Shirts, posters, David Letterman:-) then the photographer needs to maintain control of the image to that degree.

Just my 2 bits :-)

--edits for spelling..man I depend on spell checkers too much :-/


* This message has been edited by the author on 7/23/2002 1:36:05 PM.
 07/23/2002 01:35:02 PM · #4
Would be interesting to see.
 07/23/2002 01:37:39 PM · #5
Im always looking for a shot to take. Any money would be great, no money would be ok if thats how it works. Let me know.
 07/23/2002 01:39:50 PM · #6
I'm best at "people" and landscapes and have a photogenic kid willing (sometimes) to model. Since I am not currently making any money selling photos I'd entertain any reasonable offer for a nominal sum and photo credits, and/or maybe trade for some of your software. When I do freelance design work I almost always offer substantial "discounts" to non-profits anyway...I think as long as I give you a non-exclusive license there's nothing to lose.

--Paul
 07/23/2002 01:43:07 PM · #7
Hey Jeff,

I just wanted to say that I'd submit to your idea. I'm not sure if anything I shoot would be good enough but I'd do it for nothing. :)


Karen
 07/23/2002 01:49:33 PM · #8
Clarifications.

First, while we do need people shots, that is often not what we''re looking for when we''re having trouble finding/getting something.

For example, we need a snow covered house. Easy enough to get here in Salt Lake in the winter, but not so much in July. Those of you in the other half o'' the world, think, "Cake -- I can walk outside my door and get that." I can by it from Corbis for $25.00 low res (that''s actually not a bad price, to be honest, maybe I should have picked a better example) -- we need 1280x960 at 72 dpi for our purposes. Corbis Shot

Then things start to get sticky as far as Hokie''s post. I could tell you the strict truth, but most of you people are my friends *grin* and I''d like to keep you. Strictly speaking, I work for a non-profit. However, we sell (are under contract) to another company that is not. They actually do all the marketing of the software. So, technically we are and technically we aren''t. The software we make is currently sold to school districts as part of a package -- hardware and software. (A recent sale to LA County Unified was in the millions of dollars -- wish we saw that....) So, trades for software probably wouldn''t work.

I hate to sound cheap, but I''m guessing that we''d probably be talking about $10 max -- and that was if you needed to use a model (ie some compensation for doing the work of getting the model release too, not for paying for a model). Probably $5 for anything else. Again, however, that is not guaranteed. We might also be able to work out some kind of screenshot deal so you''d have something for a portfolio. If you''d work for free -- then I doubt there''d be a problem at all. :-)


* This message has been edited by the author on 7/23/2002 1:51:40 PM.
 07/23/2002 01:58:45 PM · #9
Feel free to email me... I like any excuse to get out my digital camra!
I am working at Six Flags over Texas untill earyl AUG... so if you need any pictures of characters, rides or any amusement park stuff just write...
no payment no problem - FREElance :)


* This message has been edited by the author on 7/23/2002 1:59:12 PM.
 07/23/2002 02:05:48 PM · #10
i''m still interested, too. for free.


* This message has been edited by the author on 7/23/2002 2:14:06 PM.
 07/23/2002 02:07:04 PM · #11
I would be interested too, and I would work for free.
 07/23/2002 02:13:22 PM · #12
I'm interested, too, Jeff. Just let me know.
:-)

 07/23/2002 02:16:40 PM · #13
Jeff, your compensation sounds fine for amatuer/semi-pro stuff.

My only concern would be if the image by itself were being re-used / re-sold at a much greater return ala being sold as part of a stock photo library to others for use or having the photo become a singular entity like I said earlier on posters, coffee mugs, t-shirts or whatever. Then I think the photographer should retain copyright in those instances.

But for limited use of the photo for singular projects your rates, although low, are not unreasonable for amatuer stuff.
 07/23/2002 02:21:57 PM · #14
For Patella;

Jeff,
I am interested regardless of the rate of monetary compensation.

Shar
 07/23/2002 02:23:43 PM · #15
This all gives me a great (I think, anyway) idea for a potential website... maybe even a spinoff of DPC: an "amateur" stock photography site.

How about a website where users can upload photos of their own, assign keywords to them, and set prices for the images to be used in various ways (including print prices for personal display). People needing relatively cheap (or free, if the photographer is so generous) stock photos could search the site and negotiate with the photographer through the site.

You could even rate photographers by the number of stock photos purchased or by category. Maybe have a place where users post stock photo requests and how much they are willing to pay?

I know I''ve seen a huge number of photos on this site that would work very nicely as stock photos for websites, brochures, and other small advertising campaigns.

Would there be any interest in a site like this?

If so... I''ll start coding tonight!

* This message has been edited by the author on 7/23/2002 2:27:44 PM.
 07/23/2002 03:01:07 PM · #16
Originally posted by hokie:
Jeff, your compensation sounds fine for amatuer/semi-pro stuff.

My only concern would be if the image by itself were being re-used / re-sold at a much greater return ala being sold as part of a stock photo library to others for use or having the photo become a singular entity like I said earlier on posters, coffee mugs, t-shirts or whatever. Then I think the photographer should retain copyright in those instances.

But for limited use of the photo for singular projects your rates, although low, are not unreasonable for amatuer stuff.

I agree with Hokie, and I am a bright green amatuer so if you find a pic of mine worthy of showing somebody *woo hoo*

I mean WHO wouldnt' want '7 pounds 1 ounce of future taxpayer' on a T-shirt or mug? (<g>lol) I'm in.

07/23/2002 03:08:54 PM · #17
Jeff, my entire library is available for educational work at a price of $1.00 per photo for unlimited use.
 07/23/2002 03:15:21 PM · #18
I too would love to do it. Now can I find anyone out there willing to do logo design for free for a true poor non profit that I work for. If you know of anyone please let me know.my work
 07/23/2002 03:21:25 PM · #19
Jeff, I too would be interested, just to get the experience, etc. I work really cheap -- just buy my film. :-)
karmat
 07/23/2002 04:19:16 PM · #20
Well, I don't want to be the one who didn't volunteer so count me in too. Any nominal fee is fine with me. I wont quite give my stuff away but close for this purpose. I've got tons of photos that are not being used for anything.

T
 07/23/2002 09:20:28 PM · #21
I'm interested too - not people pictures, though.
 07/23/2002 09:59:16 PM · #22
Keep me posted too...You'll also take scans for this project, right?
--Paul
 07/23/2002 10:43:39 PM · #23
I'm interested too. Have a wide assortment of photos on file.
Grayce
 07/23/2002 10:47:13 PM · #24
Don't know that anything I have would be of use, but I'm interested.
Maybe you need a shot of some Oregon moss, rain or green. :)
 07/23/2002 11:29:07 PM · #25
To Jeff, I'd be willing to submit to your site. The pay sounds OK, but as you mentioned I'd like to get some limit on usage with a possible extention.

Sohr, your idea sounds like fun too. It might develop into something.
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