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02/13/2013 02:17:35 PM · #326 |
I heard a blurb for it this morning on my way to work and it did pique my interest. I'll be honest though relating that one thought that went through my head was, "I wonder why sort of liberal theologian Terry has dug up because I'm pretty sure she'd never have a conservative thologian on." (liberal and conservative referring to views about the Bible not political views.)
I do plan on giving it a listen though. |
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02/13/2013 02:23:46 PM · #327 |
For those who can't listen, Fresh Air usually has both an MP3 podcast and a transcript of the show available within 24 hours. |
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02/13/2013 02:38:48 PM · #328 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: For those who can't listen, Fresh Air usually has both an MP3 podcast and a transcript of the show available within 24 hours. |
That helps :-) How thoughtful of you... |
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02/13/2013 02:42:41 PM · #329 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: I heard a blurb for it this morning on my way to work and it did pique my interest. I'll be honest though relating that one thought that went through my head was, "I wonder why sort of liberal theologian Terry has dug up because I'm pretty sure she'd never have a conservative thologian on." (liberal and conservative referring to views about the Bible not political views.)
I do plan on giving it a listen though. |
You are correct in your supposition, but given the fact that you dont mind mixing it up a bit, you might not mind hearing a different viewpoint...
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02/13/2013 06:02:45 PM · #330 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: Originally posted by mike_311: I already know you are one of the few rational Christians around :P |
There are PLENTY of rational Christians around; they just don't engage in never-ending theological debate :-) |
...a statement that could be debated till the end of time I guess. :O)
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02/20/2013 06:25:05 PM · #331 |
... and still no debate.
Ray |
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02/20/2013 08:00:05 PM · #332 |
I had forgotten all about this thread and the Fresh Air interview. I read the transcript the day after the interview and it didn't make too much of an impression on me. It wasn't particularly controvertial and only mildly interesting as far as any new information goes. Reading between the lines I sensed Terry doesn't know much about religion, but that's about it. :)
Sorry it took me a while to post BJ.
Message edited by author 2013-02-20 20:00:30. |
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02/21/2013 08:58:33 AM · #333 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: I had forgotten all about this thread and the Fresh Air interview. I read the transcript the day after the interview and it didn't make too much of an impression on me. It wasn't particularly controvertial and only mildly interesting as far as any new information goes. Reading between the lines I sensed Terry doesn't know much about religion, but that's about it. :)
Sorry it took me a while to post BJ. |
No problems Doc... but I was looking forward to an in-depth analysis and some insightful counter-points.
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02/21/2013 10:05:24 AM · #334 |
Sorry, there wasn't too much to counter. I agreed with most of it and much wasn't "important" in my view in the sense I needed to hold a position. I'm sure we would have some differing points on theology (the author and myself), but those didn't come up. |
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03/05/2013 10:45:47 AM · #335 |
i find it interesting that catholic party hasn't fallen apart without a leader. there must be some sort of divine intervention holding all together. |
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03/05/2013 10:47:26 AM · #336 |
Originally posted by mike_311: i find it interesting that catholic party hasn't fallen apart without a leader. there must be some sort of divine intervention holding all together. |
They are gearing up for a scandal. From what I've read, they don't want to elect another pope without taking care of damage control first.
//www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/04/cardinals-catholic-church.html
Message edited by author 2013-03-05 10:51:41. |
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03/05/2013 10:53:06 AM · #337 |
Originally posted by mike_311: i find it interesting that catholic party hasn't fallen apart without a leader. there must be some sort of divine intervention holding all together. |
A machine that size has a LOT of momentum, don'tcha know. It would take a lot longer than this in a Popeless state to grind to a halt. |
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03/05/2013 10:55:26 AM · #338 |
my comment was mainly in jest that maybe, just maybe, the religion doesn't require such top heavy oversight. you'd think that all the attention that is paid to them that the religion absolutely depends on their leadership.
Message edited by author 2013-03-05 10:56:18. |
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03/05/2013 12:36:00 PM · #339 |
It seems like things are going pretty smoothly seeing as nothing like this has happened for 600 years. I know all the boo birds thing there MUST be a nefarious reason why this is happening, but I'm willing to believe the man knew he was no longer up to the task of being the head of what would be equivalent, population wise, to the third largest country in the world. I wish the RC church the best and pray for leadership that will steer them well into the future. |
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03/05/2013 04:43:30 PM · #340 |
I came across this today... Chat with God. Had a really fun conversation! |
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03/06/2013 07:08:30 PM · #341 |
Originally posted by mike_311: i find it interesting that catholic party hasn't fallen apart without a leader. there must be some sort of divine intervention holding all together. |
You're alluding to Acts 5:33-39 where the Pharisees were pissed the Apostles were preaching about Jesus. "Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men"
We have Magisterium of the Church with the Pope as the head. Same thing happened when John Paul II died. |
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03/07/2013 01:21:08 AM · #342 |
Hi all, haven't been here in a great while but wanted to chime in that I think the Catholic church is infused with so much bullshit that it is coming out of their ears. They are the main reason I was driven away from God for a time. When I opened my eyes and saw the incredible amount of pure nonsense being committed in God's name I came to the erroneous conclusion that there was no God because if there were he certainly wouldn't have us be like that. Well I was atheist for a long time or at least did and thought everything that I could to prove that to myself. The only problem was that there is a God and He did reach out to me and did give me faith in Him and not some man made bullshit that is strictly meant to give power over people to those who have declared themselves closer to God than the rest of us.
All that being said, I am not the judge and I could no more condemn a catholic than I can condemn myself. God judges peoples hearts and knows who he has a relationship with and who is in the religion for their own reasons. The New testament speaks very clearly that God is not a respecter of false religion and false worship. Just look at the pharisees. Religion and churches are in the domain of men and often give God a black eye but faith is the purveyance of God and he gives it only to those who are willing to accept the truth that is spelled out by the very nature of our existence. Make no mistake.. God is not religion and religion is not necessarily Godly in nature. He knows who he knows and if you don't know Him then all the money in the world will not put you back into his good graces. In my opinion the best thing that could have happened to the OP's mother was ex-communication.
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03/07/2013 06:10:10 PM · #343 |
Originally posted by dponlyme: Hi all, haven't been here in a great while but wanted to chime in that I think the Catholic church is infused with so much bullshit that it is coming out of their ears. They are the main reason I was driven away from God for a time. |
Which bull$h!t were you referring to?
You speak about the "New Testament" can you tell me what this is? |
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03/07/2013 06:13:58 PM · #344 |
I recommend dponlyme sends you a PM and takes that conversation offline... |
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03/07/2013 06:43:42 PM · #345 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: I recommend dponlyme sends you a PM and takes that conversation offline... |
...and I concur.
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03/07/2013 10:32:51 PM · #346 |
Originally posted by Melethia: "Un-excommunicated"... priceless! :-) |
Yeah what is the world coming to! Next the Pope will step down. Oh wait nevermind. |
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03/07/2013 11:08:59 PM · #347 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: I recommend dponlyme sends you a PM and takes that conversation offline... |
But then we won't have the hours on entertainment that will stretch through 20 more pages of senseless debate only to have everyone pissed at each other.
I still remember, "$#€£ a duck!" comment.
Okay. |
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03/09/2013 04:55:51 PM · #348 |
I have no want to debate anybody on anything... just wanted to share my opinion. Take it for what it is. Just my opinion whether you consider it to be uninformed or riddled with logical inconsistencies is not my concern. |
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03/09/2013 05:14:25 PM · #349 |
Originally posted by dponlyme: ... In my opinion the best thing that could have happened to the OP's mother was ex-communication. |
...and your reasons for this would be what exactly?
Ray |
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03/10/2013 09:12:00 PM · #350 |
Originally posted by RayEthier: Originally posted by dponlyme: ... In my opinion the best thing that could have happened to the OP's mother was ex-communication. |
...and your reasons for this would be what exactly?
Ray |
Should be evident from my original post. In my opinion and in my belief the catholic church disseminates false information about how God would have people behave in his name and his true nature. Not to say that they don't do a lot of good in the community or disseminate truth about how God would have us behave but there is so much of the former that it may make one question the latter. The best thing is not to be a part of it in my opinion. There are churches that do much better although none are perfect. |
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