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12/22/2012 11:40:21 AM · #26
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Exploring the possibilities of the interpretation, now that is something to consider.
Ray


Yesss!! Explore the possibilities of interpretation! At least think about it. A clean baby is a great example of the effects of water (we humans don't lick our babies clean--usually). A big pile of empty water bottles. Almost any food. A bubble-bath would hide the water, but show the effects of it (bubbles). I love a challenge that gets me thinking as I vote through it. I love taking my time to try to 'get it.' I enjoy voting, trying to think of a good comment, it's very educational.
12/22/2012 11:42:47 AM · #27
Originally posted by pixelpig:


Yesss!! Explore the possibilities of interpretation! At least think about it. A clean baby is a great example of the effects of water (we humans don't lick our babies clean--usually). A big pile of empty water bottles. Almost any food. A bubble-bath would hide the water, but show the effects of it (bubbles). I love a challenge that gets me thinking as I vote through it. I love taking my time to try to 'get it.' I enjoy voting, trying to think of a good comment, it's very educational.

Alright, you're forgiven :-)
12/22/2012 11:44:01 AM · #28
[[[wags tail]]

I meant no harm.
12/22/2012 12:07:45 PM · #29
Originally posted by pixelpig:

[[[wags tail]]

I meant no harm.


lol, love it.
12/22/2012 12:52:30 PM · #30
Originally posted by pixelpig:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Exploring the possibilities of the interpretation, now that is something to consider.
Ray


Yesss!! Explore the possibilities of interpretation! At least think about it. A clean baby is a great example of the effects of water (we humans don't lick our babies clean--usually). A big pile of empty water bottles. Almost any food. A bubble-bath would hide the water, but show the effects of it (bubbles). I love a challenge that gets me thinking as I vote through it. I love taking my time to try to 'get it.' I enjoy voting, trying to think of a good comment, it's very educational.


Nope.. No babies or any people or live animals... Roughly 70% water. Fresh or cooked food even more!

;-)
12/22/2012 01:15:04 PM · #31
No, you silly! Show the effects of water, no water present in the photo. Not--take a picture of no water. It's OK if it's inside the subject.

[eta]
There's water in the air, so no air? Here in Alabama, humidity is awfully high!

There's 'no water' in salt.

Message edited by author 2012-12-22 13:19:59.
12/22/2012 01:19:41 PM · #32
Originally posted by pixelpig:

No, you silly! No water present in the photo. It's OK if it's inside the subject.

I disagree. I will vote all food that is not beef jerky a 1. Venison jerky will be okay, but don't expect me to give you banana chips anything more than a 2.
12/22/2012 01:22:00 PM · #33
Originally posted by bassbone:

Originally posted by pixelpig:

No, you silly! No water present in the photo. It's OK if it's inside the subject.

I disagree. I will vote all food that is not beef jerky a 1. Venison jerky will be okay, but don't expect me to give you banana chips anything more than a 2.


Beef jerky is a food?
12/22/2012 01:31:42 PM · #34
I just put mine up.. somebody pm me for some advice if it will work or not. Im not sure .. :/
12/22/2012 02:16:42 PM · #35
I'm retaining water. Perhaps I'll photo my gut.
12/22/2012 02:28:53 PM · #36
When voting a percentage of my vote is given to creativity.
If I feel someone is just trying to shoehorn the challenge I will vote accordingly.
Is a tree or plant really affected by water?
12/22/2012 02:39:47 PM · #37
Without water a tree or plant will die. With too much water, they die. With too little water, they fail to thrive. Just like us. So, yes. IMO.

[eta]
Erosion is not the only effect of water. IMO life is an effect of water.

Message edited by author 2012-12-22 14:40:17.
12/22/2012 02:47:04 PM · #38
Well now that we've thoroughly tainted the effect of voting in this challenge... I'm going to go find some roadkill to dry out!
12/22/2012 03:01:29 PM · #39
true that... :/
12/22/2012 04:44:30 PM · #40
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Well now that we've thoroughly tainted the effect of voting in this challenge... I'm going to go find some roadkill to dry out!


mmmm... yellow-line yummies!

-m
12/23/2012 04:27:59 PM · #41
ok... so i think we've reached consensus that not a drop of water better be IN the photo...

how about the use of water and water-related words in the title? i feel like i want to "help" the viewer/voter know the context for my image through the title, but i also like making them work a little to figure out what they are looking at...

thoughts
-m

p.s. if someone wants to take a look at my draft entry and my list of possible titles, please PM me.
12/23/2012 04:52:47 PM · #42
This is really ridiculous. I'd recommend rational tolerance and attention given to the caliber of the photograph, rather than an attitude of "gotcha!, there are water molecules included in this image capture". If you carry the "no water" to the extreme, there will be no images that qualify, unless they are shot in space or on the moon. I suggest that the "water" that created the effect should not be obvious, nor prevalent. Focus on the effect created by the water. That would be fair.
12/23/2012 06:19:03 PM · #43
Originally posted by nygold:


Is a tree or plant really affected by water?
????

BTW you spelt 'effect' wrong there is a big difference, and what planet have you been living on, no offence ;)

12/23/2012 06:43:23 PM · #44
Difficult subject just before Christmas, but I'm in (with only 3 minutes left, pfff). Luckily I had more time to do the processing :)
12/23/2012 07:00:52 PM · #45
Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by nygold:


Is a tree or plant really affected by water?
????

BTW you spelt 'effect' wrong there is a big difference, and what planet have you been living on, no offence ;)


Among the pairs of words writers often confuse, affect and effect might be the most perplexing, perhaps because their meanings are so similar. Affect, derived from affectus, from the Latin word afficere, âto do something to, act on,â is easily conflated with effect, borrowed from Anglo-French, ultimately stemming from the Latin word effectus, from efficere, âto bring about.â

After reading this I don't feel so bad.:P

12/23/2012 07:19:08 PM · #46
I don't care about obvious shots, shoot all you want, Grand Canyon- that's a giant example of the effects of water and its a no brainier, no thought, just point and shoot.

However, I would like to see people title creatively, not say "grand canyon, one million years of erosion, the effect of water."
12/23/2012 07:50:57 PM · #47
Originally posted by hahn23:

This is really ridiculous. I'd recommend rational tolerance and attention given to the caliber of the photograph, rather than an attitude of "gotcha!, there are water molecules included in this image capture". If you carry the "no water" to the extreme, there will be no images that qualify, unless they are shot in space or on the moon. I suggest that the "water" that created the effect should not be obvious, nor prevalent. Focus on the effect created by the water. That would be fair.


hahn,

you of all people should support this PRE-voting discussion, as it will leave nothing to discuss one voting has started, and hence won't sway the voters while they vote (yeah, right!)

i would hope the discussion leads to better overall entries, and less people complaing that "I'm getting DNMC for no reason". air your questions BEFOREHAND, then let the chips fall where they may.

-m
12/23/2012 08:41:07 PM · #48
rational and voting on DPC should be discussed prior to any discussion on the merits of DNMC discussions prior to a challenge as there seems to be a missconception as to what constitutes a good photo, a technical photo, an artistic photo or even some things like the 3rds rule etc... people forget all of those ellements that make up a photo, a picture, a piece of art or a clinical composition compared to basic rules of photography... until people can intepret images better based on many factors and then vote accordingly along with keeping in mind the bias and subjectivity, then it wont matter whether DNMC is voted anyway because the same things will always be voted the same way regardless of taste or bias etc... because DPC teaches people to conform to a certain way of voting and analysing any challenge based on consensus... this is a gross generalisation and there are people who do not conform or do this but unfortunately not enough... it is possible to apply objectivity and subjectivity to an image while still retaining balance and personal taste, i think expert editing should be renamed to the photoshop challenge ;O) lolal... just some things to think about before you think on what follows how you inerpret and vote an image ;O)

Message edited by author 2012-12-23 20:50:58.
12/23/2012 09:35:03 PM · #49
Originally posted by nygold:

Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by nygold:


Is a tree or plant really affected by water?
????

BTW you spelt 'effect' wrong there is a big difference, and what planet have you been living on, no offence ;)


Among the pairs of words writers often confuse, affect and effect might be the most perplexing, perhaps because their meanings are so similar. Affect, derived from affectus, from the Latin word afficere, âto do something to, act on,â is easily conflated with effect, borrowed from Anglo-French, ultimately stemming from the Latin word effectus, from efficere, âto bring about.â

After reading this I don't feel so bad.:P


Yeah lol, no worries, I can't talk really, it's not like I'm perfect, cheers and have a good day!
12/23/2012 10:23:04 PM · #50
Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by nygold:

Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by nygold:


Is a tree or plant really affected by water?
????

BTW you spelt 'effect' wrong there is a big difference, and what planet have you been living on, no offence ;)


Among the pairs of words writers often confuse, affect and effect might be the most perplexing, perhaps because their meanings are so similar. Affect, derived from affectus, from the Latin word afficere, âto do something to, act on,â is easily conflated with effect, borrowed from Anglo-French, ultimately stemming from the Latin word effectus, from efficere, âto bring about.â

After reading this I don't feel so bad.:P


Yeah lol, no worries, I can't talk really, it's not like I'm perfect, cheers and have a good day!


I don't know nuthin' about Latin, but I know that "affect" is a verb and "effect" is a noun.

The effect affects the outcome. :D

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