D60 vs D100 vs S2 ? - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/05/2003 02:59:04 PM · #1

Ive read many reviews on these comparable DSLR's written by "strangers" in other sites. I was wondering how members of my DPC "family" who own these camaeras like theirs, and what influenced their descision in going with that product? Aside from already having the lenses .
I know that there will eventually be that sort of review here, But I am too impatient to wait!!! lol. I am leaning more towards the D60 , it seems from what Ive read for one,it has the lowest noise,more compact, and I already own the batteries for my camcorder.

Klee

Sony DSC-F717

01/05/2003 09:14:36 PM · #2

Just want to provide a perspective from the most commonly used 'statistics', I have been surveying the 'owners', 'number of submission' base on camera models in various websites (and randomly - not official statistics), it seems that D60 is more popular than D100, and S2 has the least users. Though D100 is slightly cheaper than D60, yet D60 is still preferred over D100. I do not understand the reason, could someone offer the rationale? (seems that price isn't a major factor for DSLR users??) Thanks!

Jacko

Canon EOS-20D

01/05/2003 09:17:41 PM · #3

I think Canon was the first out of the starting blocks for a "reasonably" priced 6 megapixel DSLR + they had the D30 before Nikon had anything "affordable". There aren't a whole lot of difference in performance from what I've seen in reviews. I think Canon is a bit lighter.

a1leyez0nm3

Canon EOS-40D

01/12/2003 04:00:52 PM · #4

i have used both, and they both are about equal, from what i have seen (though i havent used the nikon much). there are pros and cons about each. i would probably get the nikon if i had the choice.

Message edited by author 2003-01-12 16:03:13.

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

01/12/2003 04:04:22 PM · #5

I think they are all probably about as good as each other. They have slightly different strengths and weaknesses but it really comes down to what you want to do with them. The major cost will be on the lenses, so work out what kind of photography you want to do and check which system has the best lenses for your needs.

I went with a D60 because I wanted the great low noise performance and already had flashes and batteries that fitted into the Canon system.

The AF isn't fantastic but it certainly works better than the non-SLR digitals I've used.

One thing you might find is that the D60 is going to be pretty much impossible to pick up now that Canon seem to be about to announce its
replacement.

jimmyn4

Canon EOS-7D

01/12/2003 04:06:53 PM · #6

The main reason I purchased the D30 was because I already had the lenses. I had used the S2 but I was uncomfortable with the controls. I already owned an EOS Rebel so for me going from to film to digital was fairly easy because I knew most of the controls. Someone earlier posted another thread saying the D60 is discontinued and that a D90 will replace it.

lionelm

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/12/2003 04:19:02 PM · #7

I am about to buy (within oen month I think) and I am going for the s1.
THe d60 was my other choice because the canon lens seems to be lens expensive. They already have a lot of USM lenses (silent autofocus plus you can control the focus while the AF is working , yo do not need to switch somehting) at reasonable price, not the case of Nikon.
Being discontinued .... if I want a canon, I need to wait march I guess.
Between the S2 and D100, just from what I read in UK, french and US magazine, the noise seems to be lower in the s2 thant D100, it looks like you gain one fstop there or even a little more.. which is a lot and the S2 has the PC sync for the flash (need to pay for nikon) and a firewire connection. ( the small battery thing is a little painfull, but I can live with that. And personnally I consider AA batteries a plus (do not remember the number of As)

So My current choice with the D60 on the market would be D60/S2.
With the D60 discontinued (and I do not think we're going to find cheaper one as the new one will be out in march only) my choice is ...
- wait for the new canon
- go for the S2

BUT I did not have neither of them in my hands so ... that from what I read.

Lionel

Nikon MF 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS

01/12/2003 04:52:56 PM · #8

I think the other really fundamental issue is that cameras and their controls are pretty personal - you need to hold on to it and see how it feels to you, especially if you plan on laying down a few thousand dollars for one of these camera systems.

The D60 made sense to me, as I'd used Canon systems before - the buttons were where I wanted them to be and it all 'fitted'. It is worth getting your hands on any one of these and seeing if it feels like something you'd want to use - I know I've seen reviews of the Sigma Foveon camera that describe it as big, clunky and horrible to hold - I'm sure that is just a particular opinion.

mcmurma

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

01/12/2003 06:46:07 PM · #9

OK, I know I'm off topic here, but I just have to say 'WOW!' at the number of DPChallenge participants that have upgraded to DSLR's!

I have come to see the limitations of my little camera and have began considering another purchase, but there is nothing on the market right now that interests me... at any price.

I have toyed with the idea of going with a DSLR, but after using a digicam the move back to changing lenses and lugging around a full size camera just doesn't appeal to me.

Besides, if I got a DSLR I'd feel compelled to get a Nikon because I already have some Nikon glass... This is despite the fact that none of them are autofocus, or auto anything for that matter, just plain old manual lenses. It's my understanding that I could still use these lenses, but I would have to focus them and set the exposure manually... Seems like a chore, especially since I have found that my digicam does a better job of focusing than I can. (anybody want to buy some manual lenses?)

I hope Canon revises the Pro90 and puts another similarly equipped digicam out there in the 5-6 megapixel range. THAT would be exciting.

Nikon MF 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS

01/12/2003 07:37:40 PM · #10

Originally posted by mcmurma:

I bought my G2 about a year ago to find out if I was interested enough in photography to take it seriously. The G2 was great but I was feeling increasingly limited in the things I wanted to - I'm back to now feeling that the features of the camera I have are well beyond what I can currently use - so I'm comfortablly behind the curve again :)

One of these days I'll have to try this film thing I keep hearing people talking about...

mcmurma

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

01/12/2003 07:50:19 PM · #11

Originally posted by Gordon:

One of these days I'll have to try this film thing I keep hearing people talking about...

Film? I pretty much gave up on that when I found out they don't make Kodachrome 25 anymore. Then, the last time I tried to find some Kodachrome 64 every camera store in town told me they would have to special order it. So I bought a digicam instead. Haven't looked back since...

Yomi

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR

01/12/2003 08:11:38 PM · #12

Originally posted by Gordon:

One of these days I'll have to try this film thing I keep hearing people talking about...

Film?

What's that? I can't believe that I upgraded from my G2 so soon. I had it about 7 months and then upgraded to the D100. DSLR's are great, I love the versitallity that I didn't get with the other. (Lens and whatnot)

Klee

Sony DSC-F717

01/12/2003 09:26:47 PM · #13

It is interesting to see that many people who had experience in film SLR first bought 'point and shoot' digital camera to have a feel in digital world, then upgraded theirs to DSLR at at later stage. To me, it seems that this is an unavoidable process, but it is costly - since you have to keep on upgrading the digital camera. I think it is a matter a time that eventually the DSLR will be more affordable to many people, such that whoever are currently still on 'film' will transition into DSLR without having to first buy a point a shoot digital camera. Just wonder when this will become a reality. (and wonder how much would the D90 cost - can we expect it to be cheaper than D60 at launch?)

Morgan

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

01/12/2003 09:41:49 PM · #14

I just purchased another film camera, so please do not pronounce film dead just yet. There is still a place for film. Resolution is not the only parameter to measure the calibre of a camera.

I really enjoy my digital cameras and use them daily. But, there is nothing like the output of a Hasselblad 501CM's 6cm x 6cm negative. Or, my X-Pan's 24mm x 65mm panoramic results to make you say WOW. You can see things that are totally lost in compressed files, especially resolution. The right tool for the right job, and for this site, it is only digital photography. But, for some of the submissions found at other sites, the film contributions are truly amazing. Of course the photographers produced the results, but the tools do contribute to them as well.

BadPigg

01/12/2003 10:21:31 PM · #15

Wow , was I asleep under a tree for a while ? when I posted this first I didnt even know about the rumors of the D60 being discontinued. Since then Ive read many personal opinions on the differences of the 3 dslr's I was comparing. I can still find plenty of sites willing to sell me a D60 (and have them in stock) with full warranties and such. But have yet to hear anything concrete about its discontinuation and subsequent replacement with a higher resolution model . The only thing I have in common with a Canon is the batteries for my Canon digital camcorder. I have 35mm film equpment but its all Pentax ,and no autofocus. But no Pentax digital SLR's out there, yet. I'm leaning towards the D60 because of low noise, compact size and quality and availability of glass. But now I dont know, I guess Ill just have to wait and see what washes up in a few months. For me its going to be quite an investment but I knew when I got into this digital thing I was going to be using that dreaded computing term...............TIME TO UPGRADE !!!

spiderman

Canon EOS-D60

01/12/2003 10:35:54 PM · #16

if you decide to pick up the d-60 replacement, my recommendation is to get 2 or 3 of them --- then put the extras up on e-bay - the people who don't want to wait 4+ months for delivery will pay $600 or more over retail - and you can use your profit to pick up some neat lenses

(at least that's what i did)

Nikon MF 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS

01/12/2003 10:41:58 PM · #17

I thought I saw an announcement about a new Pentax DSLR coming out in the next month or so - could well be mistaken though!

mcmurma

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

01/12/2003 10:57:23 PM · #18

Yep, I think your right about the Pentax DSLR Gordon. We should be hearing more about it soon.

lionelm