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07/19/2004 12:30:25 PM · #1
These two photos are from Freedom II challenge.





Are these black and white or dark sepia? How did you guys achieve this color? I like them so much I'd like to know how it was done. Thanks!
07/19/2004 12:40:00 PM · #2
Looks like a quadtone, which can be done via the duotone option in photoshop.
07/19/2004 12:58:31 PM · #3
Originally posted by moodville:

Looks like a quadtone, which can be done via the duotone option in photoshop.

Just curious - what tells you this is a quadtone? I love the effects I get when using the duotone feature in PS, but have yet to grasp how duo- differs from tri- or quad- tones ...at least from the perspective of how the end result appears.

Thanks!

(Edited to add the "perspective" phrase above - len)

Message edited by author 2004-07-19 13:08:16.
07/19/2004 01:14:30 PM · #4
Both, none, well somewhere in the middle. I first made it B/W then with the hue/saturation (colorize checked), I added a sepia tone with a 30-40 hue (can't remember exactly but it's there somewhere) but only with a saturation of about 10.
07/19/2004 02:04:44 PM · #5
Using tritone (3 colours) or quadtone (4 colours) will give you a greater tonal range, so the image will appear richer and have more depth. Basically it separates the tones better than simply using 'shades of grey'. You san simulate the colours of tri- or quadtone using other methods like Cristi did in his photo (which is very cool, by the way), but to get the extra richness, you need the additional channels.

I know i use this image as an example for just about everything, but it really demosnstrates what I'm talking about perfectly. you can't get that depth and clarity without it (the print version shows it even better)

07/19/2004 02:15:38 PM · #6
Ansel Adams' lithographs are printed with four shades of gray ink.
07/19/2004 03:04:06 PM · #7
Originally posted by lenkphotos:

Originally posted by moodville:

Looks like a quadtone, which can be done via the duotone option in photoshop.

Just curious - what tells you this is a quadtone? I love the effects I get when using the duotone feature in PS, but have yet to grasp how duo- differs from tri- or quad- tones ...at least from the perspective of how the end result appears.

Thanks!

(Edited to add the "perspective" phrase above - len)


They have tints of brown so certainly not black and white. They're also a lot darker than the usual sepia tones. As Pedro explains, quadtones use 4 tones of similar colors (usually) and give a nice rich and often darker tone. Ken Lee's bronze quadtone is a good example of a popular-used tone. Photoshop has preset quadtones and the above bronze quadtone is available to download off the internet somewhere too. Best way is to just play around with them until you find a 'recipe' that works.
07/19/2004 04:25:15 PM · #8
try this thread also
07/19/2004 07:08:25 PM · #9
Originally posted by Pedro:




This is an excellent shot, love the rich tones.

Thank you guys, will have to read up on this and try it on some of my photos. Are there downloadable preset tones?
07/19/2004 07:40:12 PM · #10
Originally posted by bruchen:

Are there downloadable preset tones?


The ones I use (slightly modified) started out as these Ken Lee Bronze ones.
07/20/2004 06:41:02 AM · #11
Originally posted by Pedro:

Originally posted by bruchen:

Are there downloadable preset tones?


The ones I use (slightly modified) started out as these Ken Lee Bronze ones.


Are there any more tones similare to Ken Lee bronze once ?

rgds
07/20/2004 02:53:44 PM · #12
Originally posted by bruchen:

Originally posted by Pedro:




This is an excellent shot, love the rich tones.

Thank you guys, will have to read up on this and try it on some of my photos. Are there downloadable preset tones?


thanks guys, that's definitely one of my personal favorites. and though the base of the tone is my own concocted quadtone, the effect of this particular picture was achieved by smoothing a very faint pinkish-grey tone with the sponge tool over various dodge and burned parts, just to give it a little more depth. and although i do like this effect very much, lately i have found myself using one of the ken lee quadtones (i can't remember which one offhand) but desaturating it to about 15 or 20 percent. it gives it just the barest hint of a tone and looks fantastic.
07/20/2004 02:57:28 PM · #13
Originally posted by hostage:

Originally posted by Pedro:

Originally posted by bruchen:

Are there downloadable preset tones?


The ones I use (slightly modified) started out as these Ken Lee Bronze ones.


Are there any more tones similare to Ken Lee bronze once ?

rgds


I use those bronze tones and also this selenium recipe at the Luminous Landscape If you find or develop others, let us know!
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