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07/11/2004 01:43:17 PM · #26 |
I'm surprised by how many people have dropped their cameras onto/into concrete, asphault, water, etc. Lots of uncoordinated people in here, huh! Around here, the question shouldn't be how many shutter clicks does the camera have in its lifetime, but how many drops from 4 feet or higher on to hard surfaces can it survive. Wow!
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07/11/2004 01:49:08 PM · #27 |
why would the shutter aperatus be any weaker than on a normal slr camera? is it likelier to fail.
do you expect the mark II to shoot more before needing repairs?
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07/11/2004 02:02:06 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by StevePax:
I'm surprised by how many people have dropped their cameras onto/into concrete, asphault, water, etc. Lots of uncoordinated people in here, huh! |
I didn't drop the camera. It was in my car, near the passenger seat and my roommate's leg caught the strap with his leg and it flung out of the car.
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07/11/2004 02:05:40 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by wwwavenger:
...my roommate's leg caught the strap with his leg and it flung out of the car. |
...promptly followed by your roommate's leg being caught and HIM being flung out the car, I'm sure... LOL
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07/11/2004 02:31:47 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
...promptly followed by your roommate's leg being caught and HIM being flung out the car, I'm sure... LOL |
Most assuredly.
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07/11/2004 02:37:23 PM · #31 |
How many clicks does it take to get to the center of a 300D?
1, 2, 3, *BITE*!
The world may never know! |
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07/11/2004 03:22:13 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by wwwavenger:
Originally posted by StevePax:
I'm surprised by how many people have dropped their cameras onto/into concrete, asphault, water, etc. Lots of uncoordinated people in here, huh! |
I didn't drop the camera. It was in my car, near the passenger seat and my roommate's leg caught the strap with his leg and it flung out of the car. |
Same here, was lodged between the seats on the armrest/compartment. When I opened the door to my truck and grabbed my equipment bag, the bag snagged the camera strap and drug the camera out with it. It seemed like it was perfectly safe to me at the time. Now the camera goes from my neck and back into the equipment bag, regardless. |
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07/11/2004 04:11:19 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by soup:
do you expect the mark II to shoot more before needing repairs? |
It's a professional camera about 4.5 times the price; I'd say almost certainly. The fact it can shoot 8.x frames/sec means the shutter is going to be significantly better built.
Saying that, it's not stopping me hammering my 300D. I'm on circa 10,000 shots since January, mostly shot in continuous mode. It's been down to -5'F, out in light rain, and it's still working like the day I bought it. |
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07/11/2004 04:16:44 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by soup:
why would the shutter aperatus be any weaker than on a normal slr camera? is it likelier to fail.
do you expect the mark II to shoot more before needing repairs? |
Mark II has 200.000 shutter count warranty, the Rebel has a lot less. (I read something about 13.000, but I'm not sure) There are many threads on dpreview.com forum regarding this issue.
Try to calculate, how many films you would use to make 13.000 shots on film Rebel EOS. The build quality can be about the same as the Rebel series of film EOS, so don't expect too much.
I personally have 13.000 on the counter, still going ok (knock knock) and I'm hoping not to have some problems soon. (never dropped it on concrete luckily
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07/11/2004 06:59:08 PM · #35 |
If I shot as much with my 35mm Rebel as I did with the Digital Rebel, I'd be several thousand dollars in debt.
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07/11/2004 07:15:12 PM · #36 |
as would i, and why i chose digital slr - not thinking it might possibly be considered an annual purchase... which could also put you thousands in debt.
Message edited by author 2004-07-11 19:15:32.
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07/11/2004 07:26:14 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by soup:
as would i, and why i chose digital slr - not thinking it might possibly be considered an annual purchase... which could also put you thousands in debt. |
Not so, with what I'm saving in film and one hour proofs, I could replace my Rebel every 6 months.
P.S. Anyone have a need for a couple thousand junk 4x6 prints?
Message edited by author 2004-07-11 19:27:21.
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07/11/2004 07:37:09 PM · #38 |
| Once the camera is out of warranty, what would the be the approximate cost to to replace the shutter? |
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07/11/2004 08:56:53 PM · #39 |
I beg everyone not to belive some of the stuff that goes on about the rebel/300d on dpreview.com. I´ve been a member there for about a year and the reports regarding the 300d´s shutter life have been a bit trollish to be frank.
Canon has not released official figures on the shutter life, but it is much greater than 10.000. As with every equipment made, there are some lemons in between. Those who have their shutter die on them, no matter if it is the first shot or nr.9999 often complain and complain loudly. The silent majority has no need to create a thread on how the camera is still going strong after umpteenth clicks.
I´ve read numerous reports of people in 20-30-40.000 clicks. The 10.000 clicks number is not valid in my opinion, sure it has happened to a small fraction of 300d owners that their shutter fails under 10.000 clicks, but as I said, there are lemons in between.
I would estimate that 40.000 clicks is not unreasonable, but we will never know until Canon releases official figures.
To end my rant, I would like to tell you about a thread on dpreview.com which I read. There was a 300d owner who went into a large camera store in the mid-west of USA and asked the owner if those reports about the 10k shutter failure were true. He simply told him that he has sold countless 300d´s and has yet to hear about this from his customers.
Live in peace 300d/rebel owners, spend more time taking pictures then worrying about the shutter :)
/rant off
Originally posted by sahko:
Originally posted by soup:
why would the shutter aperatus be any weaker than on a normal slr camera? is it likelier to fail.
do you expect the mark II to shoot more before needing repairs? |
Mark II has 200.000 shutter count warranty, the Rebel has a lot less. (I read something about 13.000, but I'm not sure) There are many threads on dpreview.com forum regarding this issue.
Try to calculate, how many films you would use to make 13.000 shots on film Rebel EOS. The build quality can be about the same as the Rebel series of film EOS, so don't expect too much.
I personally have 13.000 on the counter, still going ok (knock knock) and I'm hoping not to have some problems soon. (never dropped it on concrete luckily |
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07/11/2004 10:00:36 PM · #40 |
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07/12/2004 07:12:47 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by soup:
ahhhhhh........... |
Relieved? :) |
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07/12/2004 11:35:51 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by garrywhite2:
Once the camera is out of warranty, what would the be the approximate cost to to replace the shutter? |
It costs about $200 for a D60 shutter replacement. It is apparently a fairly quick, easy process. A friend of mine had to get his replaced after about 160,000 activiations. The D60 is rated at about that level I believe, maybe 150,000 for the MTBF. From what I've heard the digital rebel is rated at about 75,000 shutter activiations for the MTBF. DII etc have a higher design/build quality and have a MTBF of 200,000 activations.
But in all cases, the mirror/ shutter is a mechanical part so will wear out. It is also why camera services can extend the lifetime of the unit - but at least semi-annual oil changes for lubricants aren't really required any more!
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07/12/2004 11:52:07 AM · #43 |
i'll be relieved when i hit upwards of 100,000 frames with no problems ;}
and $200 isn't bad for cost if that's what it runs.
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07/13/2004 09:16:22 PM · #44 |
| Thanks for the info Gordon, relieved to know it's not over 500 |
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