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 05/19/2010 11:31:00 PM · #26
Originally posted by tnun:
However, I find the justifications offered for dnmc here somewhat shortsighted(sic).


Yeah? I don't know, I think an artificially blurred photo that ends up looking like a bad lensbaby shot clearly did not meet the challenge..

That's not bokeh, not by any definition.. It's artificial blur, and probably isn't even legal (looking at the shot it looks like it was done using a selection...

So yeah, I think I'm going to stick with my DNMC, and I think I'll add in a question of it's legality..
 05/19/2010 11:51:45 PM · #27
Well, as an outside observer who stumbled across this thread... I will give an opinion which no one will care about :)

1.) I don't like people calling out commenters in threads... If you really have that big of an issue with a commenter, P.M. them, and if they are hidden until the voting is over, P.M. them when the voting is over, which in all fairness and spirit of anonymity, you should do either way...

2.) Whatever the comment may be, however RAW the comment is, that is the impression that YOUR photo left on that person... They are entitled to their opinion, whether its right or wrong is subjective...

3.) If you disagree with the comment, and don't find it helpful, don't mark it as such... There is no rule that says comments are SUPPOSED to be helpful... It is always a matter of courtesy to offer advice as to how one could correct their photo, but as a rule, comments can be about however the photo strikes the viewer... That is why there is a little box that you can check that says if it was helpful...

So in the future, with all due respect, please don't discourage anyone else from commenting by calling them out in the forums... I've had a few comments in the past that left me thinking "WTF..." It happens, but remember, if you want an honest critique, you can always post the shot after the challenge asking for such... You may find that others agree with the commenter, just as Alanfreed did (whose opinion by the way, I put allot of stock in, because in one of the comments he left me, he told me like it was, and I always meant to P.M. him afterward and thank him, but I forgot, oh well, I'm rambling now) Anyway, this is just my two cents for what its worth... Now I am going to go back to watching my Bokeh image get torched...



Message edited by author 2010-05-20 00:03:56.
 05/20/2010 02:27:38 AM · #28
Originally posted by bassbone:
Originally posted by ApertureJack:
This was posted as a comment to my bokeh challenge entry, that's blurred to make a bokeh effect.

Comment: "that's not Bokeh, it's blur..."

the Defenition of Bokeh: "The area of an image that is blurred"

Am I doing something wrong!?


And people wonder why folks don't give a lot of comments...


hey, I'd love some comments:
Votes: 74
Views: 123
Avg Vote: 4.6216
Comments: 0
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0

oh wait, wrong thread LOL.

just kidding, but not really.

05/20/2010 02:31:30 AM · #29
Originally posted by PixelKing:
Originally posted by bassbone:
Originally posted by ApertureJack:
This was posted as a comment to my bokeh challenge entry, that's blurred to make a bokeh effect.

Comment: "that's not Bokeh, it's blur..."

the Defenition of Bokeh: "The area of an image that is blurred"

Am I doing something wrong!?


And people wonder why folks don't give a lot of comments...


hey, I'd love some comments:
Votes: 74
Views: 123
Avg Vote: 4.6216
Comments: 0
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0

oh wait, wrong thread LOL.

just kidding, but not really.


I've voted 100% now, so if you would like a comment, please PM me with your title, and I'll give it a shot. I will not change any of my votes @ this point - so I think we're ok as per the rules, and I know we're ok as per the ethics of this situation.

And this goes for anyone else, if you want one of my special flame-thread-inspiring comments, please, do send me a PM, I'll hook you up pronto! :)

Message edited by author 2010-05-20 02:34:21.
 05/20/2010 03:56:51 AM · #30
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by ApertureJack:
It was synthetic blur, but it wasn't motion blur, it fit with the image, looked like other shot of my friends that are scoring fairly well. I can safely say that I'm not THAT selective when I'm voting. There is a point where you cross the line between constructive criticism and then just coming off as a jerk. He said nothing else, nothing about what I could do better, just that my photo wasn't blurred enough for his taste to fit into the category of "blur"


And you know what. That is his right. He can say whatever he chooses on your photo, as that is what HE see's in your photo. Maybe he IS that selective when he votes, that is his right., Calling someone a jerk is really rather childish.



Well he is only 13 :-)

05/20/2010 03:59:59 AM · #31
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by ApertureJack:
It was synthetic blur, but it wasn't motion blur, it fit with the image, looked like other shot of my friends that are scoring fairly well. I can safely say that I'm not THAT selective when I'm voting. There is a point where you cross the line between constructive criticism and then just coming off as a jerk. He said nothing else, nothing about what I could do better, just that my photo wasn't blurred enough for his taste to fit into the category of "blur"


And you know what. That is his right. He can say whatever he chooses on your photo, as that is what HE see's in your photo. Maybe he IS that selective when he votes, that is his right., Calling someone a jerk is really rather childish.



Well he is only 13 :-)


Very true.. I had meant to point that out earlier.. I said a ton of crap I regretted later when I was 13..14...16..19..20..22.... Probably less today then ever before, but I was once a master of foot in mouth technique.
 05/20/2010 02:53:33 PM · #32
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by kleski:


However this is DPC and sometimes motion blur is good enough...



If I had voted that challenge, I would have nailed that photo too :) Probably a 4 or a 3, instead of the 2 the OP's shot got from me in this challenge. :)


Do you guys really think the bg blur is based only on panning?.....The info entered by the pg says it was shot at 1/400s f/7.1, probably ay 105mm x crop-factor.

05/20/2010 03:06:57 PM · #33
Originally posted by Sirashley:
Well, as an outside observer who stumbled across this thread... I will give an opinion which no one will care about :)

1.) I don't like people calling out commenters in threads... If you really have that big of an issue with a commenter, P.M. them, and if they are hidden until the voting is over, P.M. them when the voting is over, which in all fairness and spirit of anonymity, you should do either way...

2.) Whatever the comment may be, however RAW the comment is, that is the impression that YOUR photo left on that person... They are entitled to their opinion, whether its right or wrong is subjective...

3.) If you disagree with the comment, and don't find it helpful, don't mark it as such... There is no rule that says comments are SUPPOSED to be helpful... It is always a matter of courtesy to offer advice as to how one could correct their photo, but as a rule, comments can be about however the photo strikes the viewer... That is why there is a little box that you can check that says if it was helpful...

So in the future, with all due respect, please don't discourage anyone else from commenting by calling them out in the forums... I've had a few comments in the past that left me thinking "WTF..." It happens, but remember, if you want an honest critique, you can always post the shot after the challenge asking for such... You may find that others agree with the commenter, just as Alanfreed did (whose opinion by the way, I put allot of stock in, because in one of the comments he left me, he told me like it was, and I always meant to P.M. him afterward and thank him, but I forgot, oh well, I'm rambling now) Anyway, this is just my two cents for what its worth... Now I am going to go back to watching my Bokeh image get torched...


My thoughts exactly, but no one will care about that either ;)
 05/20/2010 03:15:11 PM · #34
Originally posted by nutzito:
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by kleski:


However this is DPC and sometimes motion blur is good enough...



If I had voted that challenge, I would have nailed that photo too :) Probably a 4 or a 3, instead of the 2 the OP's shot got from me in this challenge. :)


Do you guys really think the bg blur is based only on panning?.....The info entered by the pg says it was shot at 1/400s f/7.1, probably ay 105mm x crop-factor.


Nope, didn't think that at all... I just don't like the little bit of bokeh there is... Doesn't add much here, and the image would have been seen by me as a shoehorn entry..

Hence the 4 instead of a 2.. And although I'm a bit ashamed to admit it, the photo might have gotten a 5, but only because it's a very pretty photo, as I don't think the bokeh there is very great at all.. Then again, I'm controversial... :)

ETA: Looks like I would have been voting with the lowest 10% of the votes.. So, only 15 out of 150 people would have agreed with me.. But still, plenty did agree. That photo did as well as it did simply because it's very pretty..

Message edited by author 2010-05-20 15:19:08.
 05/20/2010 04:16:57 PM · #35
Originally posted by nutzito:
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by kleski:


However this is DPC and sometimes motion blur is good enough...



If I had voted that challenge, I would have nailed that photo too :) Probably a 4 or a 3, instead of the 2 the OP's shot got from me in this challenge. :)


Do you guys really think the bg blur is based only on panning?.....The info entered by the pg says it was shot at 1/400s f/7.1, probably ay 105mm x crop-factor.


It's a beautiful photo that's for sure. However, we only get a sense of how any bokeh was achieved by seeing the info after the voting is over. So why did it receive such high numbers? IMO because that's how DPC votes...
 05/20/2010 05:15:26 PM · #36
FWIW...AJ, you can't let just one comment ruin your shot. I started off here getting all offended by every bad comment, but once I realized that oh at least 50% of the comments were basically saying the same thing, I started to pay attention. Blurry/oof photos? Develop either a real steady hand or get a $25 tripod from Wallyworld. Too dark? Learn how to expose properly. And so forth.

And joining Team Suck, a very friendly and supportive group of non-suckers who think we suck, in dpc terms...ahh read the latest thread and see for yourself. But first, I began paying attention to the majority of commenters, and learned to ignore the single nasty one or two I'd get.
 05/20/2010 05:38:32 PM · #37
The reason we use the word bohek instead of blur, is that it has a specific meaning. It is a subset of camera blur, and good bohek isn't easy to get.

I'm in the camp that doesn't believe motion blur, zoom blur, or gaussian blur filters can create bohek. For me. it has to come from the way out of focus light interacts in the lens to create a pleasing pattern, but a very specific kind of interaction. The odd little used word bohke is used because it is an odd little used photography technique, one that creates soft shifting tones and sometimes circular highlights that ideally compliment the subject that is in focus. Bad bohek can be posterized, blotchy, or just plain blah.
It is tough to fake good bohke, and completely impossible in a basic editing challenge. It is a bit like any art, tough to define, but you know it when you see it.

We have had narrow depth of field challenges, motion blur challenges, missed focus challenges, bohek challenges and many others where the intent was to create photograph where there was a specific type of blur, and each challenge asked for a specific approach. What works for one challenge ought not work for another.

Message edited by author 2010-05-20 17:38:53.
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