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11/07/2004 08:58:39 AM · #1
I am a bit new on this site and I am not 100% sure on these editing rules. I am doing a shot for the macro without bugs challenge and IMO it looks much more dramatic if I can enhance a colour in the shot in photoshop but is it illegal?

If not, is desaturating in photoshop and then using history brush to do "selective desaturation" in the basic rules cause that would also work. Thx in advance.
11/07/2004 09:18:20 AM · #2
It is legal to enhance a color as long as you apply this effect to the image as a whole.

For example, you could increase saturation of the red channel to boost reds across the entire image.

What you can't do is increase saturation in one area of the image alone through selective editing. For example selectively making a person's eyes more blue but not saturating blue in the rest of the image.

Full rules: here.

Edit: What you are describing in the second sentence would be against the rules, since you are selectively editing the photo at that point.

Message edited by author 2004-11-07 09:20:02.
11/07/2004 09:22:53 AM · #3
Yeah, I have read those rules but seen otherwise, this -> //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=110120 is one example, this is pretty similar to what I am trying to do and this is under the "basic editing" rules. Illegal or legal?

Originally posted by richterrell:

It is legal to enhance a color as long as you apply this effect to the image as a whole.

For example, you could increase saturation of the red channel to boost reds across the entire image.

What you can't do is increase saturation in one area of the image alone through selective editing. For example selectively making a person's eyes more blue but not saturating blue in the rest of the image.

Full rules: here.

Edit: What you are describing in the second sentence would be against the rules, since you are selectively editing the photo at that point.


Message edited by author 2004-11-07 09:24:34.
11/07/2004 09:29:20 AM · #4
It is not against the rules to desaturate certain colors in the image as long as you do it to the entire image. Which I believe was done here by using channel mixer or desaturate using different color channels.

This is another good example of this technique, from a photographer I admire here (David Sidwell):



Edit: In fact, check out this tutorial on selective desaturation in basic editing.

Message edited by author 2004-11-07 09:30:49.
11/07/2004 09:38:44 AM · #5
Originally posted by larus:

I am a bit new on this site and I am not 100% sure on these editing rules. I am doing a shot for the macro without bugs challenge and IMO it looks much more dramatic if I can enhance a colour in the shot in photoshop but is it illegal?

If not, is desaturating in photoshop and then using history brush to do "selective desaturation" in the basic rules cause that would also work. Thx in advance.


Your best bet for achieving what you want under the basic editing rules is to use hue/saturation adjustment and/or color balance. You can change or enhance a narrow range of colors without affecting others. In some difficult cases, it may help to use more than one pass. Some experimentation will definitely be necessary.
I'd recommend that if you do this, you document steps and the settings you use, so that if you get a DQ request on your image, it's easy to provide the editing steps.
Use of the history brush is not legal for basic editing.
11/07/2004 10:12:41 AM · #6
Allright, that clears that up, I think I´ll just post it in B/W instead and allthough I don´t think it´s as dramatic I still like it that way.

On a different note though, would this be allowed with the advanced rules, using history brush and colour replacement tool or use hue to change a colour of just a part of the image. For instance using the example richterell was using, to use hue/saturation to change a persons eyes from blue to red, that kind of thing?

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by larus:

I am a bit new on this site and I am not 100% sure on these editing rules. I am doing a shot for the macro without bugs challenge and IMO it looks much more dramatic if I can enhance a colour in the shot in photoshop but is it illegal?

If not, is desaturating in photoshop and then using history brush to do "selective desaturation" in the basic rules cause that would also work. Thx in advance.


Your best bet for achieving what you want under the basic editing rules is to use hue/saturation adjustment and/or color balance. You can change or enhance a narrow range of colors without affecting others. In some difficult cases, it may help to use more than one pass. Some experimentation will definitely be necessary.
I'd recommend that if you do this, you document steps and the settings you use, so that if you get a DQ request on your image, it's easy to provide the editing steps.
Use of the history brush is not legal for basic editing.


Message edited by author 2004-11-07 10:13:23.
11/07/2004 10:16:18 AM · #7
Yes, all of those tools are legal in advanced editing :)
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