Team Sport Action - To be or not to be DQed

09/23/2004 07:08:02 AM · #26

Originally posted by siggi:

Isn't it possible to find some midle ground?

Got any suggestions?

-Terry

09/23/2004 07:11:39 AM · #27

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Got any suggestions?

If your shot does not meet the challenge you get a stern talking to and have to shoot film for a month. ;-)

Kavey

Sigma 18-125mm f/3.5-5.6 DC for Canon

09/23/2004 07:12:18 AM · #28

I vote no to DQing either and for the reasons already given.

It would be unreasonable to expect SC to have to make decisions on whether images did or didn't meet the challenge. The extremes may be easy but there would be many, many, many that would be hard to call. It would just be unworkable.

Voters effectively deal with images that don't meet the challenge theme by voting them low. That works for me as it's a better gauge of how well an image conveys the theme to a broad audience.

blemt

Nikon D70

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Nikon

09/23/2004 07:14:31 AM · #29

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Got any suggestions?

If your shot does not meet the challenge you get a stern talking to and have to shoot film for a month. ;-)

Wow, Paul's mean. :)

Clara

09/23/2004 07:15:50 AM · #30

offenders could be covered in strawberry jam and beaten with foam javelins until they stop laughing!!!!

I saw the photo of the flock of geese and that's just extracting the michael, vote them a one and leave a scathing comment on the image.

no point in DQing if they didn't win anything

09/23/2004 07:17:32 AM · #31

Originally posted by blemt:

Originally posted by PaulMdx:
If your shot does not meet the challenge you get a stern talking to and have to shoot film for a month. ;-)

Wow, Paul's mean. :)

Firm but fair, Clara, firm but fair. ;-)))

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 07:17:57.

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

09/23/2004 07:23:10 AM · #32

1. Not DQed, because its on topic and on challenge for quite a number of people. Just because you've choosen to ignore all the posts explaining that to you doesn't help any credibility your little witch hunt might have had.

2. Not DQed. DQing for mistakes is another silly slippery slope. Oh my score is bad - it was a 'mistake' please take it off the list....

09/23/2004 08:01:37 AM · #33

And you choose to ingnore that both have no connection what so ever to TSA. I've read all the posts about it and I have nothing to say about it except that: Why enter a blank squre into a competition for Team Sport Action, its not funny, not creative, bad experiment, boring, lame... you can Photoshop any image to turn out like that. Why waist the time of hundreds of people that take the extra time to sit down and vote on pictures that they expect to have something to do with TSA.

Originally posted by Gordon:

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 08:02:21.

09/23/2004 08:05:48 AM · #34

Originally posted by siggi:

And you choose to ingnore that both have no connection what so ever to TSA.

And, apparently, you choose to ignore that not meeting the challenge is not grounds for disqualification. Making it so is a very slippery slope, as we have learned from past experience.

-Terry

09/23/2004 08:11:39 AM · #35

come on guys my comment about the strawberry jam and foam javelins was hilarious!!!!!!!

this place is dry man, dry as a bone.

(insert smilie here, damn there aren't any!)

09/23/2004 08:17:56 AM · #36

Originally posted by Article19:

this place is dry man, dry as a bone.

Hahahaha. :-D

09/23/2004 08:22:33 AM · #37

Originally posted by Article19:

come on guys my comment about the strawberry jam and foam javelins was hilarious!!!!!!!

this place is dry man, dry as a bone.

(insert smilie here, damn there aren't any!)

Actually that was pretty funny. :-D

-Terry

09/23/2004 08:22:43 AM · #38

that's the spirit, now we're cooking with fossilized combustibles!

09/23/2004 08:46:18 AM · #39

there is my final saying on this:

Its just stupid to waist everyones time on a submission like that.

You have all seen things like that get out of hands and its called SPAM and most of you recive it in your mail every day.

Tackle it!

09/23/2004 08:47:28 AM · #40

Originally posted by siggi:

I asked you if you had a suggestion of a better way to handle this.

I'm still waiting...

-Terry, open as always to suggestions.

09/23/2004 08:55:06 AM · #41

the jam idea has legs, let's roll with that, i'll bring the jam but someone else will have to find foam javelins.

{gimme some smilies}

admart01

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

09/23/2004 08:55:22 AM · #42

Originally posted by Kavey:

Yep, that's what voting's for! (Believe me -- shots that are "off topic" get the low scores - as my Touch shot is demonstrating)

Other than "provable" technical reasons no shot should be disqualified (that's what DQ is for)

Node

Nikon D300

Tamron SP AF 17-35mm f/2.8-4 Di LD Aspherical IF for Nikon

09/23/2004 08:56:34 AM · #43

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by siggi:
And you choose to ingnore that both have no connection what so ever to TSA.

And, apparently, you choose to ignore that not meeting the challenge is not grounds for disqualification. Making it so is a very slippery slope, as we have learned from past experience.

-Terry

And also that the vast majority of votes here have been no dq and no dq!

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/23/2004 09:37:36 AM · #44

It took you what, 2 seconds to look at those photos? And how much time have you spent posting about this and demanding that they be DQed, against policy? Perhaps a re-evaluation of wasted time is necessary.

Let's say it was up to the SC to DQ photos that didn't meet the challenge. And let's look at your Fairy Tales entry. I can't think of any fairy tales off the top of my head that have swans looking at themselves in the water so I'd DQ it. Must not meet the challenge. Is that fair?

Originally posted by siggi:

09/23/2004 09:42:04 AM · #45

1. Require the photographer to write a shot description how it connects to the competition when submitting, if the photographer can't come up with it how it connects then it probably dosn't and should not be part of the competition. (added so if it gets a DQ then the SC can look at this and check how the photographer sees the connection).

2. Change the rule so that it would be possible for the SC to DQ a picture for spaming a competition, unwanted submission, Correct obious subission error like the sunset picture.

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 09:46:33.

09/23/2004 09:43:53 AM · #46

Now you are just being stupid (lack of better word)!

Originally posted by mk:

...And let's look at your Fairy Tales entry. I can't think of any fairy tales off the top of my head that have swans looking at themselves in the water so I'd DQ it. Must not meet the challenge. Is that fair?

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 09:44:28.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/23/2004 09:44:44 AM · #47

Many members as well as SC members have pointed out the problems with these suggestions. Are you ignoring them?

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/23/2004 09:46:24 AM · #48

Originally posted by siggi:

Now you are just being stupid (lack of better word)!

Originally posted by mk:
...And let's look at your Fairy Tales entry. I can't think of any fairy tales off the top of my head that have swans looking at themselves in the water so I'd DQ it. Must not meet the challenge. Is that fair?

It's not stupid at all. Where do you drawn the line for what meets the challenge and what doesn't? As Gordon has said many times, it worked fine for him. So why should it be DQed for you? It's no different with any other picture. If you want to start DQing for not meeting the challenge, that's exactly what's going to happen. Which is why it does not work and is not set up to work that way.

09/23/2004 09:46:24 AM · #49

Originally posted by siggi:

Now you are just being stupid (lack of better word)!

The point being made was - how do you draw the line? And the answer is - you can't.