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09/15/2004 12:28:44 AM · #1 |
Touch
Challenge Details: Represent the sense of touch in your photograph, or make the viewer feel your subject.
I made the viewer "feel" in my last challenge, backlighting. All I got was low score, lowest yet I think....perhaps ALL photos need to be HAPPY and JOYFUL...not true, sometimes art is life, and life is art....except it.... |
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09/15/2004 12:30:06 AM · #2 |
happy and joyful has more mass appeal.
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09/15/2004 12:34:17 AM · #3 |
| Yeah, I know....however, unlike a few seem to want to use my camera in different ways to display life or death...it's just a snap shot of one fraction of peoples reality...don't mean harm...heck, I know a few close people in my life you gone out this way...it's a message of hope, not dispair. |
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09/15/2004 12:46:05 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by dustin03:
Touch
Challenge Details: Represent the sense of touch in your photograph, or make the viewer feel your subject.
I made the viewer "feel" in my last challenge, backlighting. All I got was low score, lowest yet I think....perhaps ALL photos need to be HAPPY and JOYFUL...not true, sometimes art is life, and life is art....except it.... |
Message edited by author 2004-09-15 01:16:09. |
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09/15/2004 12:47:27 AM · #5 |
| this is a really cool topic, really looking forward to it! |
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09/15/2004 03:03:29 AM · #6 |
| just for clarity, this challenge is kind of the same as the textures one we had recently, right? |
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09/15/2004 03:26:56 AM · #7 |
I sens alot of 'digits' coming up... By digits i do mean finger prints shots...
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09/15/2004 05:20:40 AM · #8 |
i think when it says "make the viewer 'feel' your subject", in this challenge it doens't mean, feel the feeling, it means feel the texture... it is about touch.
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09/15/2004 05:49:13 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by leaf:
i think when it says "make the viewer 'feel' your subject", in this challenge it doens't mean, feel the feeling, it means feel the texture... it is about touch. |
I agree with on thing -- the challenge is about touch. But a person can be 'touched' by a great many things that have nothing to do with their fingertips.
The 'fingertip sensation' of textures is the most common meaning of touching something, but it is not the only one. I will also point out the wording is '... or make the viewer feel your subject'.
The field is wide open on this one -- just make an image with impact.
David
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09/15/2004 06:15:22 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Britannica:
Originally posted by leaf:
i think when it says "make the viewer 'feel' your subject", in this challenge it doens't mean, feel the feeling, it means feel the texture... it is about touch. |
I agree with on thing -- the challenge is about touch. But a person can be 'touched' by a great many things that have nothing to do with their fingertips.
The 'fingertip sensation' of textures is the most common meaning of touching something, but it is not the only one. I will also point out the wording is '... or make the viewer feel your subject'.
The field is wide open on this one -- just make an image with impact.
David |
ok.. well i am fine with either definition, but i think there is a couple meanings of the word touch. physical touch and emotional touch... if this challenge is about both then both it is, i am just unclear if it IS about both types of touch.
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09/15/2004 06:18:28 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by leaf:
Originally posted by Britannica:
Originally posted by leaf:
i think when it says "make the viewer 'feel' your subject", in this challenge it doens't mean, feel the feeling, it means feel the texture... it is about touch. |
I agree with on thing -- the challenge is about touch. But a person can be 'touched' by a great many things that have nothing to do with their fingertips.
The 'fingertip sensation' of textures is the most common meaning of touching something, but it is not the only one. I will also point out the wording is '... or make the viewer feel your subject'.
The field is wide open on this one -- just make an image with impact.
David |
ok.. well i am fine with either definition, but i think there is a couple meanings of the word touch. physical touch and emotional touch... if this challenge is about both then both it is, i am just unclear if it IS about both types of touch. |
The "sense of touch" can only mean texture. That's it.
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09/15/2004 06:53:42 AM · #12 |
| My interpretation of this challenge is that it's about physical touch and not emotional touch. |
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09/15/2004 08:21:46 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
My interpretation of this challenge is that it's about physical touch and not emotional touch. |
I think i would agree.
I think the rules infer that it is pysical touch by talking about physical touch then saying the viewer must 'feel your subject' but i don't think it is clear enough to not create any mis-interpretations.
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09/15/2004 08:33:08 AM · #14 |
Oh no...I hope this doesn't turn into a "I'm more artistic because I choose to be liberal in my interpretation of the challenge" thing.
BooZoon, Olyuzi, leaf...you guys are right on, it says "represent the sense of touch in your photographs"...simple. |
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09/15/2004 09:39:13 AM · #15 |
Well, couple of things here.
First, I thought this photo was awesome and I gave it the highest score - alone. I thought the backlighting was a critical element of the photo and that it nailed the challenge. Not to mention the impact. It's a difficult subject - and an excellent presentation. I'm disappointed in your scores too, but you were#1 in by book!
Second, the definition of the touch challenge. I believe that "sense of touch" eleiminates emotion. So basically feel the phisical touch, not feel the feeling.
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09/15/2004 09:58:43 AM · #16 |
I think this image is technically very good and that the subject matter is tought provocative, Not everything is "happy and funny" in the world..and sometimes we need to look at things and think about them
Congrads on the message.
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09/15/2004 10:04:15 AM · #17 |
Yes there is the texture thing and then there is the sensation thing (hot, cold, pain) but the second someone takes an oof ball of light in the sky and titles it "touched by an Angel" I'm not going too high with the score.
I think this challenge will give us some really good shots but I bet there will be just as many lamers.
Andy
BTW: I thought this was an awesome photo as well. |
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09/15/2004 01:42:27 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by BooZon:
Originally posted by leaf:
Originally posted by Britannica:
Originally posted by leaf:
i think when it says "make the viewer 'feel' your subject", in this challenge it doens't mean, feel the feeling, it means feel the texture... it is about touch. |
I agree with on thing -- the challenge is about touch. But a person can be 'touched' by a great many things that have nothing to do with their fingertips.
The 'fingertip sensation' of textures is the most common meaning of touching something, but it is not the only one. I will also point out the wording is '... or make the viewer feel your subject'.
The field is wide open on this one -- just make an image with impact.
David |
ok.. well i am fine with either definition, but i think there is a couple meanings of the word touch. physical touch and emotional touch... if this challenge is about both then both it is, i am just unclear if it IS about both types of touch. |
The "sense of touch" can only mean texture. That's it. |
I quite agree that was most likely the intent of the challenge, but (playing 'devils advocate') I pointed out the wording does not follow that intent. The comma and the 'or' are at odds with one another. Together they make no sense, drop the comma it becomes what I stated above but drop the 'or' and it is limited to physical sensation.
I would personally prefer the 'or' be dropped, but it is not up to me. So how about it SC? D&L? Can we have a correction of an obvious grammatical error?
David
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09/15/2004 01:52:55 PM · #19 |
| I agree with David. It would be less confusing as the "or" seems to present an option... |
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09/15/2004 03:01:32 PM · #20 |
Just out of interest how would you rate this shot in the Touch challenge?
it's a great topic - just hope I have some time to shoot. |
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09/15/2004 03:23:26 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by BooZon:
The "sense of touch" can only mean texture. That's it. |
How about the sensations of temperature and pressure, which are detected by "touching" or being touched?
Many challenge wordings are intentionally left open to a variety of valid interpretations, to encourage creativity instead of conformity. I think this is supposed to be about expanding artistic horizons, not making product shots for a catalog. I wish people could ENJOY the many ways of interpreting the topic that others come up with, instead of applying a litmus test to every entry according to some preconceived and limited notions.
A photo doesn't have to be "great" to be enjoyable ... otherwise there would also be no community theater, no minor league baseball, no McDonald's. I am always disappointed when I hear someone remark that they "wasted their time" looking at a photo ... |
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09/15/2004 03:48:21 PM · #22 |
Back to the original post: it's a good photo, but is it really 'backlit'?
I dunno, maybe the questionable lighting situation or the 'been there - done that' nature of the photo was it's downfall: not the subject matter.
The idea of a hand next to a bottle, a gun, a rope, a knife, etc etc to represent suicide isn't exactly new. I know personally I vote on creativity as well as technical.
Just a thought. |
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09/15/2004 04:01:17 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Many challenge wordings are intentionally left open to a variety of valid interpretations, to encourage creativity instead of conformity. |
I hate to get into this same argument again, but I have to counter this.
The challenge wordings are not left open. The way it's worded is exclusive.
I would love more 'open to interpretation' challenges, but the wording often doesn't permit this. That being said, people can submit a photo of anything anyhow. |
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09/15/2004 07:03:27 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Back to the original post: it's a good photo, but is it really 'backlit'?
I dunno, maybe the questionable lighting situation or the 'been there - done that' nature of the photo was it's downfall: not the subject matter.
The idea of a hand next to a bottle, a gun, a rope, a knife, etc etc to represent suicide isn't exactly new. I know personally I vote on creativity as well as technical.
Just a thought. |
You don't know if that is 'backlit'?? Well, it would be considered so in every realm of lighting in which I've ever worked. The light is from behind, no?
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09/16/2004 08:32:23 PM · #25 |
| any examples on the 'touch' ? I am really confused what should I shoot. any examples from previous challenges or any other shots are appreciated. |
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