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08/12/2004 04:26:23 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by yrone:
Looking over the cameras that people are using here. There are ALOT of the EOS Rebel DSLR cameras. Any major difference in quality between the 10D and the Rebel? I'm using a G3 myself which gets the job done and has more features than I even use at the moment. :-D |
The 10D has
* a magnesium alloy body instead of a plastic/metalframe combo, neither is weatherproof like 1-serie cameras
* a pentaprism instead of a pentamirror
* more features if you don't want to load Russian firmware onto your Rebel (considerable advantage!)
* slightly higher fps, 5 frame bigger buffer
* more weight, advantage is balance with heavy lenses
* It is black, and that is a lot cooler as silver :)
* the same sensor, the same digic processor, creates the same files (RAW, the jpeg settings are comparable, but act a bit differently, the 10D is more customizable)
The question is: Do I need those extras to get what I want?
Especially when you dare (it seems to work great) to put the Russian firmware on your 300D the difference is very small and comes down to body ruggednes, weight and color..... and the 10D has a slightly brighter viewfinder. The 300D takes a cheap wideangle EF-S lens and the 10D needs expensive Canon lenses (16-35L /17-40 L) or third party (Sigma 18-50) cheaper lenses to get comparable wide-angle.
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08/12/2004 04:34:31 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Yes I am projecting what I'd like to see a bit, but it doesn't seem widly crazy to think the replacement might be $1000 more then the 10D currently costs. |
I would think that Canon would not want to abandon the $1500 DSLR though. |
I don't think they did - I think they just repackaged it at $1000 and called it a rebel.
You have a point, but there is a huge gap between the 10D and the 1D, price and feature wise. |
Agreed, but if canon is discontinuing the 10d without a $1500 replacement for it, there will be quite a gap in their lineup.
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08/12/2004 04:36:21 PM · #28 |
Nicely filled by Nikon with their D70.
We shall see soon enough.
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08/12/2004 04:45:00 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Nicely filled by Nikon with their D70.
We shall see soon enough. |
Thats another issue.. lol. If I was buying a Nikon today, I would buy the D70 instead of the D100. I don't really understand Nikon's marketing strategy with the D70, but its better than the Rebel and as good as (IMO) the D100. There is no real gap between the D70 and the D100.
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08/12/2004 04:49:00 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Thats another issue.. lol. If I was buying a Nikon today, I would buy the D70 instead of the D100. I don't really understand Nikon's marketing strategy with the D70, but its better than the Rebel and as good as (IMO) the D100. There is no real gap between the D70 and the D100. |
Yeah, Nikon's lineup seems as crazy as Canon's without a 10D..
Canon seem to lead the way in their lineup though with cameras like the 1Ds and 1D mkII, which Nikon just can't compete against. I have no doubt Canon will release a 10D replacement, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't another big step forward. |
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08/12/2004 04:49:01 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
There is no real gap between the D70 and the D100. |
Do they still make the D100 ? Maybe they just made too many and are trying to get rid of them.
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08/12/2004 04:58:37 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Thats another issue.. lol. If I was buying a Nikon today, I would buy the D70 instead of the D100. I don't really understand Nikon's marketing strategy with the D70, but its better than the Rebel and as good as (IMO) the D100. There is no real gap between the D70 and the D100. |
exactly...sounds like the Nikon D200 is on it's way. |
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08/12/2004 06:15:11 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by yrone:
Looking over the cameras that people are using here. There are ALOT of the EOS Rebel DSLR cameras. Any major difference in quality between the 10D and the Rebel? I'm using a G3 myself which gets the job done and has more features than I even use at the moment. :-D |
The 10D has
* a magnesium alloy body instead of a plastic/metalframe combo, neither is weatherproof like 1-serie cameras
* a pentaprism instead of a pentamirror
* more features if you don't want to load Russian firmware onto your Rebel (considerable advantage!)
* slightly higher fps, 5 frame bigger buffer
* more weight, advantage is balance with heavy lenses
* It is black, and that is a lot cooler as silver :)
* the same sensor, the same digic processor, creates the same files (RAW, the jpeg settings are comparable, but act a bit differently, the 10D is more customizable)
The question is: Do I need those extras to get what I want?
Especially when you dare (it seems to work great) to put the Russian firmware on your 300D the difference is very small and comes down to body ruggednes, weight and color..... and the 10D has a slightly brighter viewfinder. The 300D takes a cheap wideangle EF-S lens and the 10D needs expensive Canon lenses (16-35L /17-40 L) or third party (Sigma 18-50) cheaper lenses to get comparable wide-angle. |
My favorite feature on the 10D that the Rebel does not have is the flash exposure. You can go up or down two whole stops with the built in flash. I use that ALL the time since I don't have an external flash. Another thing, the lens that comes with the rebel is not a 58mm, so none of my filters fit on it!
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08/12/2004 07:45:00 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by mirdonamy:
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by yrone:
Looking over the cameras that people are using here. There are ALOT of the EOS Rebel DSLR cameras. Any major difference in quality between the 10D and the Rebel? I'm using a G3 myself which gets the job done and has more features than I even use at the moment. :-D |
The 10D has
* a magnesium alloy body instead of a plastic/metalframe combo, neither is weatherproof like 1-serie cameras
* a pentaprism instead of a pentamirror
* more features if you don't want to load Russian firmware onto your Rebel (considerable advantage!)
* slightly higher fps, 5 frame bigger buffer
* more weight, advantage is balance with heavy lenses
* It is black, and that is a lot cooler as silver :)
* the same sensor, the same digic processor, creates the same files (RAW, the jpeg settings are comparable, but act a bit differently, the 10D is more customizable)
The question is: Do I need those extras to get what I want?
Especially when you dare (it seems to work great) to put the Russian firmware on your 300D the difference is very small and comes down to body ruggednes, weight and color..... and the 10D has a slightly brighter viewfinder. The 300D takes a cheap wideangle EF-S lens and the 10D needs expensive Canon lenses (16-35L /17-40 L) or third party (Sigma 18-50) cheaper lenses to get comparable wide-angle. |
My favorite feature on the 10D that the Rebel does not have is the flash exposure. You can go up or down two whole stops with the built in flash. I use that ALL the time since I don't have an external flash. Another thing, the lens that comes with the rebel is not a 58mm, so none of my filters fit on it! |
The Russian firmware adds FEC and the EF-S lens that comes with the Rebel is a 58mm thread size.
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08/12/2004 10:25:07 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by mirdonamy:
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by yrone:
Looking over the cameras that people are using here. There are ALOT of the EOS Rebel DSLR cameras. Any major difference in quality between the 10D and the Rebel? I'm using a G3 myself which gets the job done and has more features than I even use at the moment. :-D |
The 10D has
* a magnesium alloy body instead of a plastic/metalframe combo, neither is weatherproof like 1-serie cameras
* a pentaprism instead of a pentamirror
* more features if you don't want to load Russian firmware onto your Rebel (considerable advantage!)
* slightly higher fps, 5 frame bigger buffer
* more weight, advantage is balance with heavy lenses
* It is black, and that is a lot cooler as silver :)
* the same sensor, the same digic processor, creates the same files (RAW, the jpeg settings are comparable, but act a bit differently, the 10D is more customizable)
The question is: Do I need those extras to get what I want?
Especially when you dare (it seems to work great) to put the Russian firmware on your 300D the difference is very small and comes down to body ruggednes, weight and color..... and the 10D has a slightly brighter viewfinder. The 300D takes a cheap wideangle EF-S lens and the 10D needs expensive Canon lenses (16-35L /17-40 L) or third party (Sigma 18-50) cheaper lenses to get comparable wide-angle. |
My favorite feature on the 10D that the Rebel does not have is the flash exposure. You can go up or down two whole stops with the built in flash. I use that ALL the time since I don't have an external flash. Another thing, the lens that comes with the rebel is not a 58mm, so none of my filters fit on it! |
The kit lens is in fact a 58mm.
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08/13/2004 04:19:24 PM · #36 |
| interesting...ive been weighing the pros and cons of selling my rebel actually. i got it as a christmas gift from my parents and seriously have absolutely no time to use it. i also dont know how any of the functions work or how to change anything. basically i use the automatic features and thats it. i just got a canon power shot the other day to use for snap shots and really thats plenty for me. i just dont know if i'd regret it later... |
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08/13/2004 05:02:54 PM · #37 |
I was gonna buy one in November! Sod's Law strikes again.
Guess I'll have to wait and pay out loads more money!
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08/15/2004 04:31:22 PM · #38 |
Just been reading about 10D and on the net they were saying that 10D was going to be discontinued as early as March 2004 and replacement introduced shortly after. As we know, this didn't happen...perhaps we are going to be offered 10D Mark II in September.
I certainly hope so as this is my next upgrade. |
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08/17/2004 12:23:01 AM · #39 |
It's discontinued according to the big camera shops in town. One told me to "buy it if you can find it" so an hour later I bought one on Ebay and the next day drove 3 hrs to pick it up. Thus far a great deal (don't want to jinx it as I haven't transferred the warranty to my name yet)..comes with Camera body, Canon battery grip, extra battery and three year warranty (till 2007) for $1900CND and the only nick or dent is the one I gave it when I brought it home and whacked it against a wall :-( oopsie :-)
Shot two paying gigs in the last 3 days and me likey :-) |
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