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06/04/2002 11:44:29 AM · #26 |
What is frustrating me, is I am getting a lot of very detailed comments on how to improve my photo. Using a reflector, adjusting the gamma, etc. But I believe the problems is really monitor calibration. It get comments that there is not detail on my subject, but if someone would just turn up the brightness on their monitor, they may be able to see the picture as I do. Oh well, live and learn. Next time I will use lower contrast.
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06/04/2002 11:49:58 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by w.brian.martin:
What is frustrating me, is I am getting a lot of very detailed comments on how to improve my photo. Using a reflector, adjusting the gamma, etc. But I believe the problems is really monitor calibration. It get comments that there is not detail on my subject, but if someone would just turn up the brightness on their monitor, they may be able to see the picture as I do. Oh well, live and learn. Next time I will use lower contrast.
hey w.brian...tell you what..click on my name and send me an email and tell me which photo is yours. I would be curious to see what you are talking about.
BTW....my knowing his photo is no worse than spouses voting each other's photos or grandmas voting on grandkids :-P
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06/04/2002 12:05:41 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by w.brian.martin:
What is frustrating me, is I am getting a lot of very detailed comments on how to improve my photo. Using a reflector, adjusting the gamma, etc. But I believe the problems is really monitor calibration. It get comments that there is not detail on my subject, but if someone would just turn up the brightness on their monitor, they may be able to see the picture as I do. Oh well, live and learn. Next time I will use lower contrast.
Don't bother. I got the "photo is too dark" comments on my first two images. This time, I purposely left the image lighter to avoid those kinds of comments, and I'm getting that there is not enough contrast. I give up.
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06/04/2002 12:18:48 PM · #29 |
| Maybe we should add something to the vote thumbnails page that would get users to check their monitors. Hmmmm ... :) |
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06/04/2002 12:55:12 PM · #30 |
I am guilty of sometimes commenting that a picture is too dark/too light. I have not gone through extensive monitor calibrations, but most photos look ok, so I am making the assumption that those that look dark/light indeed are dark/light. Sorry if you don't agree.
Then there's the matter of personal taste as always, my "too dark" may be your "just right and intriguing"...
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06/04/2002 01:22:21 PM · #31 |
Sorry about that, Dogman. I guess I read "What gets me is when some1 makes a comment about the lack of technique in my photo but does not qualify the comment by explaining how to improve it." and thought you meant really explain how to improve it. I do try to be as helpful as time allows, but with all the extra pics this week I'm starting to get a little terse.
Drew - two excellent ideas of your up there.
Hokie - you took the words right out of my mouth, you old dustfarter. {g}
Lisae - One of the things I loved about my old camera (and am learning to love about my new one) is how to get around technical limitations. The lengths to which you go when you need to force the camera to do what you want it to are often directly proportional to the creativity in the work you do. Of course, there are some things that are really beyond your control, but I found that the challenge of taming the camera by somehow changing the situation outside the camera taught me about why and when to use, say, spot metering or focus lock. Learning how is easy after that. Making a vision out of what you have at hand is where it's at.
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06/04/2002 02:16:21 PM · #32 |
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06/04/2002 02:37:29 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by drewmedia:
Maybe we should add something to the vote thumbnails page that would get users to check their monitors. Hmmmm ... :)
See if you can display a small gray scale (10-24 steps) just above or below the photo title on the full-size vote page. Someone posted one in an earlier thread, or it's easy enough to make one in Photoshop.
Also, I STILL think it would be useful if the photographer's non-identifying comments on the image appeared in the vote page, instead of waiting until the results page. MANY comments people leave about contrast, brightness, DOF, blurriness, etc. would be pre-empted, and poeple could spend their time advising the photographer about things of which they're not already aware. I don't think this should be a test for voters either ("spot the three things wrong with this picture")... |
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06/04/2002 02:42:45 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Dogman:
I am a newbie to digital photography and don't pretend to know much about the technical side, however I do make comment If I think it may be useful. So far, I have 120 votes and only 7 comments, most of which are good. What gets me is when some1 makes a comment about the lack of technique in my photo but does not qualify the comment by explaining how to improve it. There are a lot of experienced photographers in here and yes I appreciate the time constraints, but please, if you see something wrong don't just say it lacks tehnique. Tell me how to improve it.
It is not how new you are or how much you know. If a photo does not work for you, and you think you know why, say so. There will be others who it will work for but we are all different. That's why all ice cream isn't chocolate.
bryan
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06/04/2002 02:43:33 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by gr8photos:
I am guilty of sometimes commenting that a picture is too dark/too light. I have not gone through extensive monitor calibrations...
Then there's the matter of personal taste as always, my "too dark" may be your "just right and intriguing"...
I try to preface all of my comments regarding brightness/contrast with "on my monitor..." I also try to acknowledge that, while I may have adjusted the image differently, they may have had a reason for deliberately leaving it the way it is which I don't get (at the time). |
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06/04/2002 03:31:58 PM · #36 |
I agree, GeneralIE, and I''m trying to be more concientious (sp?) about it. On the other hand, don''t people know by now that it''s all about perception and (at least with most votes/comments) there''s no malicious intent, just the perception of the person commenting? If we tapdance around every little comment like that, we''d be writing essays every time we comment.
Here''s my new official disclaimer: "I am commenting on what I perceive in your picture. Things that you may have done deliberately, or have no control over, may be things that I comment on. This is not done out of malicious intent, to skew votes, or to upset you. It''s simply my very humble personal opinion. If you don''t agree, please don''t take it personal, just ignore what I said. ;)
Oh, forgot one more thing. If you get some wise-crack comment, it''s not from me (at least not intentionally, just keep in mind that language/culture barrier thingy), but you should feel free to ignore those, too.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by gr8photos:
[i]I am guilty of sometimes commenting that a picture is too dark/too light. I have not gone through extensive monitor calibrations...
Then there''s the matter of personal taste as always, my "too dark" may be your "just right and intriguing"...
I try to preface all of my comments regarding brightness/contrast with "on my monitor..." I also try to acknowledge that, while I may have adjusted the image differently, they may have had a reason for deliberately leaving it the way it is which I don''t get (at the time).[/i]
* This message has been edited by the author on 6/4/2002 3:33:25 PM.
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06/04/2002 06:44:43 PM · #37 |
| clay/ryan/jon would murder the pope at langdons request. he is our god. i am indifferent to drew |
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06/04/2002 07:00:20 PM · #38 |
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06/04/2002 07:03:15 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by clay:
clay/ryan/jon would murder the pope at langdons request. he is our god. i am indifferent to drew
They would also probalby photograph the event an post it here as well...
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