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07/07/2004 12:59:44 AM · #1 |
Does anyone carry around or wear any type of photographer identification? Business cards, a laniard that says 'PHOTOGRAPHER' or anything of that ilk? Does it help?
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07/07/2004 01:00:36 AM · #2 |
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07/07/2004 01:00:38 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Does anyone carry around or wear any type of photographer identification? Business cards, a laniard that says 'PHOTOGRAPHER' or anything of that ilk? Does it help? |
Sounds like there's a good story behind this post. Tell it?
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07/07/2004 01:05:06 AM · #4 |
I've actually thought the same thing. How do you confront people, as a professional.. Like a reporter has a press pass, what do photographers have?
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07/07/2004 01:06:19 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Help what? |
Sorry, just with your demeanor and ability to get around with the camera. Overcoming shyness, getting closer to events or objects, etc.
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07/07/2004 01:07:16 AM · #6 |
| I got into a state championship Lacrosse match for free and was allowed to shoot from the sidelines...didn't say a word, just had my camera and monopod. I guess the assumption was as good as a credential. :) |
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07/07/2004 01:07:48 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by langdon:
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Does anyone carry around or wear any type of photographer identification? Business cards, a laniard that says 'PHOTOGRAPHER' or anything of that ilk? Does it help? |
Sounds like there's a good story behind this post. Tell it? |
Not really, but I have been wishing at concerts and things that I had something 'official' so I could get right up to the stage and get some shots, or if I said to a cute gal, 'May I take your picture?' it's not a come-on line.
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07/07/2004 01:13:59 AM · #8 |
I've just started to really get into WANTING to have people take me seriously, it definately helps to have a "more" professional looking camera than just an obvious point-and-shoot. This past weekend I attended an anime convention and spent quite a bit of time behind the camera. I had business cards I had made up and it did help me feel like I had a legitimate reason to take their photo and ask their permission. Also, I just had to make myself not feel embarrassed or shy, because usually I'm the one who gets in the way of geting that great photo. ^_^ I knew my camera, had the settings ready, and cards in my purse - all made me fell like it was "OK" to take their picture, one or more.
It also helped to do a couple "mini-shoots" with my friends and get pictures of them in their costumes. I got to practice with my camera and practice working with other people. One posed herself (she's in drama), another half posed herself and I half posed her, and the last one, I had to come up with everything. It was a great excercise in getting over my shyness.
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07/07/2004 01:14:55 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by dsidwell:
...or if I said to a cute gal, 'May I take your picture?' it's not a come-on line. |
If you want it to be a good come-on line, just say "please take your clothes off and stand over there.... -->" :)
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07/07/2004 01:19:52 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Help what? |
Sorry, just with your demeanor and ability to get around with the camera. Overcoming shyness, getting closer to events or objects, etc. |
Depends, some events have media check in where they have passes and background packets. You generally have to show your credentials there and they then issue a pass that will allow you in other areas. Most don't and you don't really get any extra courtesy. You just have to be ballsy and go get your shot. My biggest pet peeve is the news cameramen pushing and blocking the public, paying or otherwise.
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07/07/2004 01:19:55 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Help what? |
Sorry, just with your demeanor and ability to get around with the camera. Overcoming shyness, getting closer to events or objects, etc. |
I never worry about it... If I want to take a picture at an event I just do it IF it seems appropriate to do so. Obviously there are boundaries you need to be aware of. ie. I wouldn't try taking pictures in a casino. Or at a funeral that was not for a close relative. Or in a movie theater. When I was younger I did take a lot of pics at rock concerts, although today I probably wouldn't do that. :)
However for taking pictures of people is different. In most cases if the person is the main subject I would probably ask them first if their faces are towards the camera.
I've never had anyone be concerned with the pictures I'm shooting, probably because I tend to respect other's boundaries, etc.
I'd like to know what problems people have run into with taking pictures. Sporting events? Pics of buildings or structures? Pics of kids? Pics at public events? Never had any problems at all.
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07/07/2004 01:49:03 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by ChrisW123:
I'd like to know what problems people have run into with taking pictures. Sporting events? Pics of buildings or structures? Pics of kids? Pics at public events? Never had any problems at all. |
I got a Mall here in San Diego that does not like cameras. Especially around the Victoria's Secret store. My wife was playing around with a stuffed animal in the window of VS and I pointed to take her picture and had three security guards on me immediatly. Ready to escort me out. ???
Message edited by author 2004-07-07 01:49:51. |
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07/07/2004 02:07:15 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
My wife was playing around with a stuffed animal in the window of VS and I pointed to take her picture and had three security guards on me immediatly. Ready to escort me out. ??? |
Are you sure they didn't get upset over the fact that you weren't wearing any pants?
;)
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07/07/2004 02:08:51 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by dsidwell:
...or if I said to a cute gal, 'May I take your picture?' it's not a come-on line. |
If you want it to be a good come-on line, just say "please take your clothes off and stand over there.... -->" :) |
One of the photographers I used to know in LA said that he spent years in high school trying to figure out how to get girls to take off their clothes. He finally realized that if he had a camera, all he had to do was tell them to.
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07/07/2004 02:09:05 AM · #15 |
For journalists, Kohler has a nifty toilet flush lever with the word PRESS engraved on it....... I have met a gentleman from the Milwaukee Journal who attached one to his Nikon.
Message edited by author 2004-07-07 02:12:59. |
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07/07/2004 03:03:34 AM · #16 |
I shot pictures at the Oregon State Track and Field meet. I talked to my local newspaper and they lent me a press pass. Very cool. Was able to access a lot more with the press pass at that big meet than some of the smaller meets I did other places. But OSAA required everyone on the field to have an official press pass. So that was awsome to be in their with the "big dogs."
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07/07/2004 05:47:37 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by dsidwell:
...or if I said to a cute gal, 'May I take your picture?' it's not a come-on line. |
If you want it to be a good come-on line, just say "please take your clothes off and stand over there.... -->" :) |
*feverishly takes notes*
Just another reason why John is The Man! ;) |
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07/07/2004 07:00:48 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by ChrisW123:
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Help what? |
Sorry, just with your demeanor and ability to get around with the camera. Overcoming shyness, getting closer to events or objects, etc. |
I'd like to know what problems people have run into with taking pictures. Sporting events? Pics of buildings or structures? Pics of kids? Pics at public events? Never had any problems at all. |
I have a badge I made up with my company name, my name and photo and my license number. I live near Daytona Beach Florida and as many of you may know they hold one of the largest Bike Week events in the US. As far as on the streets here in Florida pretty much anything goes. You don't need to ask if you can take a photo but out of courtesy I will ask if I have the chance to. It is sometimes hard though when they are driving by on there bikes. The photo I.D. will get me into areas that only pro shooters can go. One of the big events during the week is called the Cabbage Patch Wrestling. Over 40,000 people at this event and only about 10 photographers can get up close. Back in 2002 I produced a Bike Week Photo CD and was selling it on the internet. But anyway, the main point is that yes a photo I.D. is a great idea but would only use it if you are pro and have a valid business license.
Tom
//www.deltonalakes.com/gallery/tomh1000
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07/07/2004 08:25:17 AM · #19 |
I've shot 'behind the ropes' at a couple of events. Usually I've contacted the media person/department of the event a few weeks/ months in advance and explained what I wanted to do and for what purpose. Depending on how many people are trying to get media credentials, you can typically get access. This doesn't tend to work for large events unless you are affiliated with a publication - larger the better given that the media people want actual coverage.
Certainly I feel more comfortable shooting where I want, with a media pass around my neck.
I have a similar 'offical photographer' badge for shooting at a wildflower center I shoot at a lot - this also helps me when shooting people in the garden, as they can see I'm working with the center - also helps with the staff/ volunteers to get them to help me out some times.
Biggest drawback is that people then assume you are there to help them with their cameras - though the gear does that too anyway. I also carry business cards with my name, email,phone number and web address on them to hand out. A pen is a great idea too...
I doubt I would just try and make up something that looks official - for most places where you actually need issued ID, it doesn't mean anything anyway and to people who actually understand how credentials work, you just look kinda silly - if you have a company or shoot regularly for a company then that's a different thing but the home made or bought on line 'press passes' just look kinda silly.
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07/07/2004 08:25:53 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by dsidwell:
...or if I said to a cute gal, 'May I take your picture?' it's not a come-on line. |
If you want it to be a good come-on line, just say "please take your clothes off and stand over there.... -->" :) |
How's that been working out for you ... ? When was the court date again ? :)
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07/07/2004 08:32:24 AM · #21 |
IPA
I've been wondering about this too.. I don't do events but do shoot a lot in public venues. Just saw this site this morning when I was surfing after reading this post.
$150 is a little steep,, but if it gets you legit credentials for something you really want,, well,, might be worth the money. I haven't read the whole site but looks like they have some interesting benefits. |
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07/07/2004 08:41:35 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by JC_Homola:
IPA
I've been wondering about this too.. I don't do events but do shoot a lot in public venues. Just saw this site this morning when I was surfing after reading this post.
$150 is a little steep,, but if it gets you legit credentials for something you really want,, well,, might be worth the money. I haven't read the whole site but looks like they have some interesting benefits. |
looks like a rip off really. It is doubtful that it would get you in anywhere interesting, as you are shooting for that web site - not any recognised news outlet. You might fool a few people, but that's what you'd be doing -fooling them. Tends to be a pretty small group of people that manage event organisation and word gets around.
What I've found works is contacting places you want to get access to, ahead of time. If they say no - then the answer was no - whether you printed out something or spent $150 on a website.
The alternative is go and find a local paper and see if they need
freelance photographers to cover events - have a professional portfolio
with you and show you can do the job. This might get you credentials too. It is easy enough to get good access to a lot of lower level events, sporting or otherwise to build a portfolio in the first place. I've shot high school football with credentials from the local team, after offering them access to the shots. I've shot trail races after approaching the organisers and offering to cover it for them - many small events can't afford to hire a pro photographer and are really happy if you offer to work for them - it gets you good experience, some exposure, potentially some sales - and you aren't 'stealing a gig' from a professional who would be working it anyway.
Message edited by author 2004-07-07 09:17:19.
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07/07/2004 08:52:25 AM · #23 |
| Ahh, thanks Gordon.. Hadn't spent a lot of time looking at the site. |
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07/07/2004 09:10:32 AM · #24 |
Hi all! I, like all of you have been wondering about all these things as well. Does anyone have a picture of one of their business cards or know what should be printed on them?
dc |
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07/07/2004 09:32:49 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by dcano:
Hi all! I, like all of you have been wondering about all these things as well. Does anyone have a picture of one of their business cards or know what should be printed on them?
dc |
jacko's is nice
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