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 07/04/2004 12:09:37 AM · #1
We shot for the 3rd of July. The model wanted a few patriotic shots with the flag and we just put together a whole session since I'd seen a place last week that I wanted to try out. Thanks for comments or critiques.













Thanks again for looking,

Kev

07/04/2004 12:13:47 AM · #2
Wow, Kevin...those are nice. I like the black and white one best myself. The flag and the two or three close-ups are nice as well, and the one with the dress with her hands behind her back. The other dress shots are pretty, but she seems a bit uncomfortable or tentative or something. Why, oh why, does a beautiful young girl like that go and drive a nail through her eyebrow??? LOL
07/04/2004 12:31:42 AM · #3
Hi. I like the flag one the best for color rendition.
Do you set a custom wb when you move from location to location? I notice her skin tones seem to be different in each picture. Even the two color closeups have differences. Do you shoot raw or jpeg? The only reason I mention this is because I think it would be important to have skin tones more or less equal for the same model. Sorry. I don't mean to hurt your feelings. Other than the color issue they are well shot. I do agree that she looked uncomfortable in some of them.
 07/04/2004 12:42:07 AM · #4
interesting, I thought the b&w was one of the worst.

My favorite was followed by .

edit:: _giggle_ favorite it :b

Message edited by author 2004-07-04 01:37:59.
 07/04/2004 12:43:11 AM · #5
Originally posted by pcody:
Do you set a custom wb when you move from location to location? I notice her skin tones seem to be different in each picture. Even the two color closeups have differences. Do you shoot raw or jpeg? The only reason I mention this is because I think it would be important to have skin tones more or less equal for the same model.


Sounds like a case of using "auto" white balance to me...
 07/04/2004 01:06:28 AM · #6
Nope. Just using the AWB for now. I'm looking to get one of those Expo-Discs but at $140 for the 77mm I figured I'd wait 'til I got back from vacation. ;)

Yeah, the WB is a problem. I haven't ever set a custom white balance. Guess I should regularly carry one of those black/white/gray charts and use that. I have one somewhere around here; just never used it so I stopped carrying it around.

Thanks for the comments.

Kev
 07/04/2004 02:06:28 AM · #7
I don't know what an expo disk is, but I just ordered a 5x7 background disk from B&H for $63. If you got the white one you would be able to use it as a huge reflector also. They offer a lot of different size disks and stands at a reasonable price. They have really monster size ones also.
How has omp been for you? Do you do a lot of shoots? Do you have a popup tent for the models to change in? I looked at some of your photos at omp. I think I liked the one you did of the young guy the best. It was a while ago so I'm not really sure anymore.
 07/04/2004 10:01:28 AM · #8
Pat,

I hadn't thought to use the white side of the reflector or just the plain scrim. Good idea. The Expo disc is a filter that screws onto (or you can just hold it over) your lens. When you take a photo, it is white based on the light coming in through it so you just custom set your white balance and you're finished. I've already got that reflector though so I think I'll try using it this week. Thanks for the tip.

OMP has been decent in my experience. I've probably done upwards of 30 shoots with OMP models and I shoot with a new model about once every couple of months. I don't have a popup tent yet. I let the models use the back of our minivan. I just fold the seats down into the floor and the windows are tinted. Normally their mother, boyfriend/husband or another model are there with them to "watch out" for them. Sometimes we are at a location like a state park where there are restroom facilities that they can use to change while their chaperone either helps them or stands outside the door with me. I have picked up some paying work through OMP. I got commissioned for some photos for posters. I've also had several young models I worked with pickup contracts that regularly pay them $100/hour and one picked up some magazine work for something like Southern Living or Southern Outdoors for around $300/hour for a day's work. The OMP service can be costly and there are periods (like the start of summer) where a lot of young people put up one or two photos but then never follow up with any sessions so that can be a pain in the butt but most of the time I've found the models to be punctual, focused and serious about making it as a career model.

Thanks for commenting,

Kev
 07/04/2004 01:57:28 PM · #9
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:



This is very good. Although putting your name at the bottom spoils it somewhat.
 07/05/2004 11:22:13 AM · #10
As always, excellent work Kevin. (Wish I had more experience shooting "people" than I do! Finding humans who are willing to "help me learn" has not been easy.) I like all the pics (especially the B&W one) but I'm not crazy about the last few full-length pics where she's wearing the dress; something about the setting just doesn't seem "right".

In terms of the ExpoDisc... I considered getting one until I realized that it technically needs to be used as an "incident" light measuring device -- meaning, you have to go to where the subject is, and aim towards where the camera will be to get a good measure of the light falling on your subject. Why? Because if you stick it on your camera and aim it at your subject -- who is wearing a royal blue dress -- the ExpoDisc will think the light is more blue than it really is. The situation where it would be useful would be when there are multiple (potentially colored) light sources, in which case the ExpoDisc will help "average" it out (whereas a gray card may only reflect one light source).

Right now, I'm considering the WhiBal product from RawWorkflow, which you can just have your subject hold for one shot (and then use the measured white balance for all the shots in those lighting conditions.)

Message edited by author 2004-07-05 11:25:53.
 07/05/2004 11:31:09 AM · #11
Don't let her dad see this



He'll come find you.
 07/05/2004 11:34:02 AM · #12
i might consider cloning out the spooge on her eyebrow as well.

Originally posted by kiwiness:
This is very good. Although putting your name at the bottom spoils it somewhat.

 07/05/2004 11:38:58 AM · #13
ExpoDisk seems like a nice product, but quite possible outcomes with what Eddy says. How bout something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg...Pringles (type) can lid?? A coffee can lid?
I do like the looks of those WhiBal cards, too. Be great to just go into PS click the black/white/grey dropper and there ya go. 6"x6" grey cards can be picked up for about $3-6. White...100+ brightness paper at an office supply store (or the back of the grey card?). Hadn't thought about black but will.
 07/05/2004 11:39:41 AM · #14
Originally posted by soup:
i might consider cloning out the spooge on her eyebrow as well.

Originally posted by kiwiness:
This is very good. Although putting your name at the bottom spoils it somewhat.


ROFLMAO!!

Message edited by author 2004-07-05 11:39:48.
 07/05/2004 12:26:03 PM · #15
To add my 2 cents worth:
I like the area you went to. In this pose, if I was to change anything, I would make the left arm disapear and show some grass instead. It would show better, in my humble view.
Nice job



Here is an example:
no back arm in the way, it accentuate the small of her back and makes it more appealing.
Cheers

Phraid

Message edited by author 2004-07-05 12:36:03.
 07/05/2004 12:31:10 PM · #16

I Like this portrait, Too bad for the piercing. I would have suggested to take a set of headshots with the barbell and some without. and see the difference. It'ss too distracting and takes away from the beutiful green eyes.
BTW Camera flash? or TTL. It's quite close to your lens axis. It gives a nice ring light effect
phraid
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