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06/22/2004 03:55:53 PM · #26 |
As an actor myself I would say it would depend on the headshot.
A passport headshot is far from a true headshot. An actor's headshot is not simply a picture of someone's head, without an extraneous factors. There can be background elements, poses, and they include more then just the head. Generally when headshots are taken they take a full body shot and then crop from that. In this case (as defined in the challenge description) a headshot is a perfect example of portrait, keeping in mind that a headshot is not simply a picture of someone's head on a black or white (or any color for that matter) background.
Lee
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06/22/2004 03:56:37 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by bod:
Dang. We need some [rhetorical] tags in these forums ; ) |
You know I was thinking that earlier today too ;)
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06/22/2004 04:00:15 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
So passport photos are supposed to conceal some insight about the person's character? How counter-productive ...
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A passport photo is absolutely not meant to show anything about a person's character. In fact, they have fairly strict guidelines to minimise any attempt at showing your character. Same with an actor's head shot. They are both supposed to be a very literal represenation of what a person looks like. |
Actors' photo sets usually include one as you describe, but often include additional photos of the actor in character, or preferrably, a variety of characters. A lot depends on the person, market, money available, and agent. :) |
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06/22/2004 04:00:52 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by bod:
Dang. We need some [rhetorical] tags in these forums ; ) |
Rendering the intervening text invisible? |
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06/22/2004 04:03:33 PM · #30 |
Lets try it another way then, just for discussion again.
A passport photo is the best example of a formal colour portrait.
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06/22/2004 04:05:52 PM · #31 |
| So a portrait is ONLY a headshot? Can't there be enviromental portraits taken in a studio to show the rest of the body? Aren't a lot of senior portraits full body? What about a family portrait? |
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06/22/2004 04:07:11 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Lets try it another way then, just for discussion again.
A passport photo is the best example of a formal colour portrait. |
I can't bite ... I have to go to work. Can I simulate embossing the government seal over the image? :) |
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06/22/2004 04:08:04 PM · #33 |
I can tell you about headshots ... !-)
E
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06/22/2004 04:25:31 PM · #34 |
A book I really enjoyed on natural light portraits
reviewed here is by Jane Brown. I particularly like that Bjork picture that's on the cover.
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06/22/2004 04:33:40 PM · #35 |
A passport photo is meant as a literal picture to help identify people leaving and entering the country so the gov't officials know it's in fact the person they are claiming to be. A portrait, has some artistic merit and is revealing of more than just image for identification purposes only. In film, it might be the difference between a stock character (passport) and the main protagonist of the story.
Just my two cents from a two-bit photographer. |
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06/22/2004 04:41:50 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by bod:
Dang. We need some [rhetorical] tags in these forums ; ) |
Rendering the intervening text invisible? |
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06/22/2004 04:45:59 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by bod:
So what is the exact ratio of head to body that we should shoot in order to meet the challenge? I wanna make sure I get it right so that the pixel-counting 'has to meet the exact wording of the challenge' voters have nothing to complain about.
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Not sure, but I do believe that all good portraits include the boobies. Naturally, there are no good portraits of men.
--Mick
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06/22/2004 04:46:19 PM · #38 |
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06/22/2004 09:52:26 PM · #39 |
Just to deepen the debate.
Can a "portrait" not show a person in their element to reveal something of the person to the viewer. IE: Portrait of Gretzky in front of his locker, Bush in the Oval Office, a photographer in his/her studio.
Environment, or objects can deepen our understanding of the portrait subject. Yes? No?
(Hey I'm new here, just thinkin is all!)
HEY WHERE'D EVERYBODY GO?
Message edited by author 2004-06-22 23:15:26.
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