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10/22/2014 01:17:42 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by skewsme: For example, if the idea was that we all title photos 'aftermath', and then the commenters have to guess what precipitated the scene, that would be much more meaningful. |
That sounds like a good idea, maybe a slight variation on it (since we are doing aftermath now) would be a good challenge suggestion?
Might just get more people into the groove of commenting as well :) |
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10/22/2014 01:20:53 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by MadMan2k: Originally posted by skewsme: For example, if the idea was that we all title photos 'aftermath', and then the commenters have to guess what precipitated the scene, that would be much more meaningful. |
That sounds like a good idea, maybe a slight variation on it (since we are doing aftermath now) would be a good challenge suggestion?
Might just get more people into the groove of commenting as well :) |
We had done something very similar with the You Name It! challenge, was a lot of fun. |
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10/22/2014 01:30:51 PM · #28 |
Votes: 16
Views: 52
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 0
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10/22/2014 02:06:50 PM · #29 |
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10/22/2014 07:15:20 PM · #30 |
For what's worth...I did not pay much attention to the title. I was more interested in the appeal of the photo and whether it met the intent of the challenge. That being said, I feel very obtuse since I could not figure out the "aftermath" in several of the images. I also thought that many of the images that did display an obvious "aftermath" could have included something more (e.g., unique framing/perspective, focal effects, etc.). |
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10/22/2014 07:26:45 PM · #31 |
I'm always more partial to photos that tell a story, so I was excited to see this one, and was looking forward to viewing the challenge. The whole point of titling all entries aftermath was to have the photo speak for itself. If you're relying on the title to explain something, you're not meeting the challenge, imo. I had to change my entry once I realized that I couldn't explain it in the title. Because the way that I was going to do it didn't tell enough of a story.
I think it also gets people to think more when voting. "How in the heck is that an aftermath?!? Ohâ€Â¦ I get it!! Cool!". Too often speed voting takes over. This is an opportunity to delve a little deeper.
However, it's so easy to miss/forget things like this. So I wish there was a way to just have all the titles automatically set for challenges like these. I think these types of challenges are very worthwhile. But it is a shame if people forget and are voted down. And it is a shame if people purposely try to get a leg up by explaining when others aren't. Just having it default would solve any difficulties. |
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10/23/2014 03:09:26 AM · #32 |
The name of the challenge is Aftermath. We have to fit a picture for the challenge and that's what I did.
The rule of naming all the pictures aftermath is boring and that's why I didn't name my entry aftermath. When I went out to take the picture for the aftermath challenge I had the name aftermath in mind and took the shot. So in my mind the name is aftermath but I used a nickname for the challenge.
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10/23/2014 06:16:06 AM · #33 |
About the title:
I admire the people who had the strength and integrity to pay attention to the rule stipulating a uniform title.
However, knowing that I would be crucified for making that an important factor, I tried my hardest (much against my inner voices) to ignore titles.
Still....... thank you for those who had the courage and skill to make your image do all the work for you, vs the ones who needed the crutch of extra help. |
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10/23/2014 07:55:30 AM · #34 |
All this talk of "crutch" because of a title is utter BS. If you didn't title your image "Aftermath" in this challenge you are tazed with a couple thousand volts every vote... and comments like "You were supposed to title it Aftermath *sad face*"
I didn't read past the title of the challenge, picked an image and submitted it with a title like... oh, every other challenge... Shame on me and the other's, don't worry, I promise you, no image that is not tiled Aftermath will be on the front page. |
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10/23/2014 08:48:34 AM · #35 |
I'm one of the bumpkins who choose another name for their entry and I wish I hadn't. My entry would probably do better without "crutch" - at least that's what I gather from the comments.
Only after reading this thread I realized that the title is a rule. Sometimes challenge descriptions are somewhat poetically paraphrased (make your image a song of praise to the color red...) so I took it as a kind of suggestion rather than a precise instruction. But I've certainly learned a lot for future challenges, that's more than I can ask for! |
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10/23/2014 09:04:54 AM · #36 |
I haven't voted yet. I'm still hoping all the titles get reset to "Aftermath" |
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10/23/2014 11:29:41 AM · #37 |
At this point - to whomever has the power to change all the titles to be the same I say - do it. But it won't matter much, as the DNMC nut-taps have already been happily delivered by our fellow DPC'ers. From now on I will read the description page in it's entirety, for fear of more surprise rules. |
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10/23/2014 11:57:25 AM · #38 |
Title your image "Aftermath", and shoot to fit the title.
This appeared right below the the challenge theme, not on a next page. It was right there. I don't know how it could have been made more clear. I suppose some chose to express their creativity by not doing what was suggested, and are now feeling the consequence. In the end, it was their choice to not follow the guideline, not read, etc., etc.
As far as changing the titles for those who chose not to title their images as suggested, I don't agree with that. It was part of the challenge. For me, it would be like entering something blue in a red challenge, then being surprised by the low score and comments saying it's a blue thing in a red thing challenge.
This is all just my opinion. But I was honestly surprised by all the entries that weren't simply titled "Aftermath".
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10/23/2014 12:02:46 PM · #39 |
If it makes you guys feel any better, mine is titled Aftermath and it'll most likely get the brown ribbon... |
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10/23/2014 12:14:59 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by RKT: Title your image "Aftermath", and shoot to fit the title.
This appeared right below the the challenge theme, not on a next page. It was right there. I don't know how it could have been made more clear. I suppose some chose to express their creativity by not doing what was suggested, and are now feeling the consequence. In the end, it was their choice to not follow the guideline, not read, etc., etc.
As far as changing the titles for those who chose not to title their images as suggested, I don't agree with that. It was part of the challenge. For me, it would be like entering something blue in a red challenge, then being surprised by the low score and comments saying it's a blue thing in a red thing challenge.
This is all just my opinion. But I was honestly surprised by all the entries that weren't simply titled "Aftermath". |
+1.
I offered a little leniency to those that at least included the word 'aftermath' in their non-'Aftermath' title. |
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10/23/2014 02:15:28 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by PennyStreet: Originally posted by skewsme: There is no functional reason behind using title aftermath for all entries. It's just a dumb and arbitrary requirement. And btw, aftermath simply means consequence, although usually of some 'bad' event. |
I totally agree on both counts. BUT, I hate to see so many voters mark down entries as DNMC. I would prefer everybody vote on the photographs rather than worry about whether the titler bothered to follow the dumb requirement.
edit to add: it's hard for me to believe that this many people did it on purpose. |
That would be mere supposition on your part. Many are the times that I earnestly believed that an image DNMC, but that was not reflected in my score.
As far as things being dumb and arbitrary, well all I can say is there are a myriad of laws, norms, mores and religious tenets that I also believe fall into those categories, but I tend to adhere to the stipulated rules since I am not the final arbiter in such instances.
I have found over the years that those who find rules stupid do so either because they were unaware of the rules, had just broken the rules or were simply non-conformists.
Ray |
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10/23/2014 02:19:20 PM · #42 |
To me, the CHALLENGE was to take a photo that conveyed the title 'Aftermath'. In other words, let the photo tell the story, rather than the title. |
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10/23/2014 02:50:26 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by LN13: To me, the CHALLENGE was to take a photo that conveyed the title 'Aftermath'. In other words, let the photo tell the story, rather than the title. |
Well I feel a little silly now for not sticking with my original, which was a photo of a 500-word essay that really drove home the Aftermath aspect. The resolution wasn't what it needed to be to read it easily, though. But now? 1200 pixels going forward? Dang you, DPC! |
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10/23/2014 03:28:41 PM · #44 |
You are all right, it was in the rules as I mentioned earlier. I have just been whining because I was obviously too hurried to read the clear challenge of this challenge. The chips will fall where they may, and we will all live on to DPC another day - now at 1200px.
No love lost all around. Just wanted to moan a bit, all better now.
Nick |
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10/23/2014 05:43:12 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by LN13: To me, the CHALLENGE was to take a photo that conveyed the title 'Aftermath'. In other words, let the photo tell the story, rather than the title. |
+1 exactly!!! |
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10/23/2014 06:42:36 PM · #46 |
I've been following this with considerable interest. I have actually been personally requested by a couple people to please change their title, and I had to decline. As a matter of SC policy, we will correct typos on request, but we won't change a title to something else because, in the end, titling is part of the presentation, it's part of the game.
I may be a hard case here, but The challenge description is VERY clear: "Title your image "Aftermath" and shoot to fit the title." It's not hidden or obscured in any way, it IS the challenge. Many (but not all) of the folks who titled it something else used their title to convey a sense of exactly HOW their image represents an "aftermath", and that's 180 degrees from the intention of the challenge, as expressed.
So I'm not in favor of "fixing" the titles, for what that's worth. And I'm the one (or one of the ones) that "tagged" the non-conforming images with a comment explaining the challenge. I did this NOT because I'm hammering the images with my voting, because I didn't. No, I made the comment so the recipients at least might have an idea WHY their image was scoring poorly. |
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10/23/2014 06:53:01 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by snaffles: Originally posted by LN13: To me, the CHALLENGE was to take a photo that conveyed the title 'Aftermath'. In other words, let the photo tell the story, rather than the title. |
+1 exactly!!! |
WRONG... there are reasons for instructions. If they wanted people to simply take a photo that conveyed "Aftermath", they would not have made it a requirement to have the word "Aftermath" in the title.
Hate to sound like a stick in the mud but rules is rules.\
Ray |
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10/23/2014 08:16:14 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by RayEthier: Originally posted by snaffles: Originally posted by LN13: To me, the CHALLENGE was to take a photo that conveyed the title 'Aftermath'. In other words, let the photo tell the story, rather than the title. |
+1 exactly!!! |
WRONG... there are reasons for instructions. If they wanted people to simply take a photo that conveyed "Aftermath", they would not have made it a requirement to have the word "Aftermath" in the title.
Hate to sound like a stick in the mud but rules is rules.\
Ray |
You said it yourself..."there are reasons for instructions". The instructions were to name the photo "Aftermath". How hard is that to understand?
(This, coming from me, the guy who didn't name his photo "Sentinel" in the Sentinel challenge)
Message edited by author 2014-10-23 20:17:13. |
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10/23/2014 08:17:18 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by LN13: Originally posted by RayEthier: Originally posted by snaffles: Originally posted by LN13: To me, the CHALLENGE was to take a photo that conveyed the title 'Aftermath'. In other words, let the photo tell the story, rather than the title. |
+1 exactly!!! |
WRONG... there are reasons for instructions. If they wanted people to simply take a photo that conveyed "Aftermath", they would not have made it a requirement to have the word "Aftermath" in the title.
Hate to sound like a stick in the mud but rules is rules.\
Ray |
You said it yourself..."there are reasons for instructions". The instructions were to name the photo "Aftermath". How hard is that to understand? |
I think you guys are saying the same thing. |
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10/23/2014 08:34:17 PM · #50 |
Votes: 44
Views: 110
Avg Vote: 5.9318
Comments: 1 |
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