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12/21/2012 10:22:46 PM · #1
i know the challenge description says

"Show the effects of water without actually showing any water."

but in many cases the water would likely help set the context for a good entry in this challenge, even if the "effect" of the water is not currently happening

any thoughts on if the DNMC police are going to harsh on a photo with some water in it?

-m

12/21/2012 10:25:16 PM · #2
Originally posted by mefnj:

i know the challenge description says

"Show the effects of water without actually showing any water."

but in many cases the water would likely help set the context for a good entry in this challenge, even if the "effect" of the water is not currently happening

any thoughts on if the DNMC police are going to harsh on a photo with some water in it?

-m

My recommendation - leave the water out, and that goes for ice, steam, etc.
12/21/2012 10:28:28 PM · #3
I am not entering this...but you could show destruction...i.e. tidal wave
12/21/2012 10:30:08 PM · #4
Do you really think there is any chance that some people won't give you a DNMC?

It's a recurring discussion here as to whether you should get a DNMC for ignoring the challenge description, but without a doubt there are many who will score you very low for ignoring it. I would be surprised if you didn't get a significant number of 1-3's.
12/21/2012 10:34:57 PM · #5
Originally posted by rcollier:

Do you really think there is any chance that some people won't give you a DNMC?

It's a recurring discussion here as to whether you should get a DNMC for ignoring the challenge description, but without a doubt there are many who will score you very low for ignoring it. I would be surprised if you didn't get a significant number of 1-3's.


I got a dnmc that I really deserved...I did not read anything but the challenge title...The challenge was masks I entered


The Mask of War
12/21/2012 10:53:39 PM · #6
NOT a single drop! :P :P :P
12/21/2012 10:57:16 PM · #7
Hey art you dont have to be so angry...Its Christmas time
12/21/2012 11:03:29 PM · #8
If water is showing, I'm gonna vote DNMC.

"Show the effects of water without actually showing any water."

I very rarely vote as DNMC.

But, if there is a description that is clear... uh... what's a body to do?

As an aside... if I DO vote as DNMC, I will leave you a comment saying that. I think it's the polite thing to do.

When I get those, I appreciate someone not just bombing me with a low score without commenting. I always check the "This comment was helpful." box since it is helpful to understand someone else's "take" on the challenge topic.

Not all helpful comments are positive.

I've grown the most, I think, over the ones that I didn't think about before I entered.

12/21/2012 11:51:46 PM · #9
Again for me, DNMC is a -3 penalty instead of a straight 1 (anymore)...

So a great 7-8 photo gets bumped to a 4-5... that seems fair.
12/22/2012 03:24:06 AM · #10
Originally posted by mefnj:

any thoughts on if the DNMC police are going to harsh on a photo with some water in it?
I'll be harsh. That word any is pretty definitive.
12/22/2012 06:14:42 AM · #11
Me too
12/22/2012 07:26:38 AM · #12
How much water is too much? Nothing to do with the challenge, but the answer is that the amount of non-stop rain we have had over the last few days is definitely too much. Hmph.
12/22/2012 08:15:57 AM · #13
Just a thought... Would a cloud be voted as DNMC? Sentiments?
12/22/2012 08:17:34 AM · #14
Originally posted by RianBotes:

Just a thought... Would a cloud be voted as DNMC? Sentiments?

Water exists in three states, solid, liquid, and gas....1
12/22/2012 08:48:52 AM · #15
Originally posted by RianBotes:

Just a thought... Would a cloud be voted as DNMC? Sentiments?


If the cloud isn't the main subject I'd let it slip through ... otherwise 1
12/22/2012 08:52:59 AM · #16
Originally posted by bassbone:

Originally posted by RianBotes:

Just a thought... Would a cloud be voted as DNMC? Sentiments?

Water exists in three states, solid, liquid, and gas....1


Now you're clouding the issue!
12/22/2012 08:53:18 AM · #17
Show the effects of water without actually showing any water. It doesn't say, show the results of no water, so to my mind a landscape of desert erosion, dry rocky tops of mountains, etc., is unimaginative. I'd be tempted to vote it down, please don't make me vote thru a bunch of dried-up landscapes!

Without water, everything would die. So, one of the effects of water is all life on this planet. A photo of anything alive meets the challenge. In fact, a photo of any kind of food would meet the challenge (one of the effects of water is food). Another effect of water is electricity (hydroelectric uses water to produce electricity, nuclear energy uses water for cooling). There are all kinds of production processes that use water for cooling. And so on.

Message edited by author 2012-12-22 10:43:59.
12/22/2012 09:39:53 AM · #18
I think we should require all images to show the relative humidity for the location of the photo. Anything above 50% RH is DNMC.
12/22/2012 09:56:05 AM · #19
Originally posted by pixelpig:

Show the effects of water without actually showing any water. It doesn't say, show the results of no water, so to my mind a landscape of desert erosion, dry rocky tops of mountains, etc., is unimaginative. I'd vote it down, please don't make me vote thru a bunch of dried-up landscapes!....

Maybe you shouldn't pre-judge. By eliminating many categories of images before you see them and preemptively declaring them, "unimaginative", maybe you should open your mind to creative interpretations of the challenge.
12/22/2012 09:57:27 AM · #20
Flower Macros!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12/22/2012 10:37:44 AM · #21
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Flower Macros!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yessss! but alas, no dew-drops.
12/22/2012 11:00:52 AM · #22
Originally posted by pixelpig:

Show the effects of water without actually showing any water. It doesn't say, show the results of no water, so to my mind a landscape of desert erosion, dry rocky tops of mountains, etc., is unimaginative. I'd be tempted to vote it down, please don't make me vote thru a bunch of dried-up landscapes!

Let me see if I have this right:

Despite the fact that arroyos, dry washes, red-rock landscapes, and so forth are clear, and often awesome, examples of the power of water over time, you are gonna vote these down because they are "not imaginative"? So we have a challenge to "show the effects of water" and your thumbs-down on the best examples of it? I suppose this is refreshing in a way, since DPC mostly rewards the most obvious interpretations in every challenge, but geeze, man :-)
12/22/2012 11:03:04 AM · #23
That would be fair....but would also require someone to monitor the temperature as well. :)

Originally posted by bassbone:

I think we should require all images to show the relative humidity for the location of the photo. Anything above 50% RH is DNMC.
12/22/2012 11:25:21 AM · #24
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by pixelpig:

Show the effects of water without actually showing any water. It doesn't say, show the results of no water, so to my mind a landscape of desert erosion, dry rocky tops of mountains, etc., is unimaginative. I'd be tempted to vote it down, please don't make me vote thru a bunch of dried-up landscapes!

Let me see if I have this right:

Despite the fact that arroyos, dry washes, red-rock landscapes, and so forth are clear, and often awesome, examples of the power of water over time, you are gonna vote these down because they are "not imaginative"? So we have a challenge to "show the effects of water" and your thumbs-down on the best examples of it? I suppose this is refreshing in a way, since DPC mostly rewards the most obvious interpretations in every challenge, but geeze, man :-)


I am with my friend Bear_Music on this one. I was thinking of taking images of the unbelievable and decorative displays created by the snowstorm, but with that mindset I guess I would fall into the DNMC category.

Exploring the possibilities of the interpretation, now that is something to consider.

Ray

12/22/2012 11:26:11 AM · #25
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by pixelpig:

Show the effects of water without actually showing any water. It doesn't say, show the results of no water, so to my mind a landscape of desert erosion, dry rocky tops of mountains, etc., is unimaginative. I'd be tempted to vote it down, please don't make me vote thru a bunch of dried-up landscapes!

Let me see if I have this right:

Despite the fact that arroyos, dry washes, red-rock landscapes, and so forth are clear, and often awesome, examples of the power of water over time, you are gonna vote these down because they are "not imaginative"? So we have a challenge to "show the effects of water" and your thumbs-down on the best examples of it? I suppose this is refreshing in a way, since DPC mostly rewards the most obvious interpretations in every challenge, but geeze, man :-)


On the other hand, I do not do DNMC voting.
On the other, other hand if this challenge is going to give me only the clearest, most obvious effects of water {landscapes) I could not vote. I'm hoping for more, though. And I don't regard landscapes as 'the best examples' of the effects of water. Right now, a good cup of coffee has my vote as the best example of the effects of water. I'm having my coffee right now & it's goooood.

Message edited by author 2012-12-22 11:29:26.
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