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Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

04/16/2004 04:17:59 PM · #1

Help me!

One of my photos has been DQd for the stupidest possible reason.

I accidently set the year on my camera to 2003 so it "wasn't taken within the challenge dates."

Of course, it was, as was my submission to the motion blur challenge I now realize, which never received a dq request.

I'm obviously not going back to my old photos and finding photos taken within the same week last year to submit to challenges. That would be absurd. On top of that the subject of my shot (can't tell you what it is) was purchased less than a year ago. I can take a photo of the receipt and submit that if necessary.

Please help!

ps. it was good to find out what year it is. :)

heida

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

04/16/2004 04:21:22 PM · #2

Seems like many people are having this problem now ...
See this forum post

PaulMdx

Canon EOS-1D

04/16/2004 04:23:06 PM · #3

I suggest providing supplementary shots to show your subject does not have any wear and tear - that's surely proof that it's not a year old! Also, it may be worth ringing up the shop and seeing if the shop assistant is still there, and if he/she will back up your story.

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

04/16/2004 04:24:18 PM · #4

It will be no problem proving that age of the subject. I only hope such kind of proof is allowed and it's not too late to be reinstated into the challenge.

ps. was the photo in the other thread ever reinstated?

Message edited by author 2004-04-16 16:27:04.

04/16/2004 04:29:09 PM · #5

This seems like an epidemic as if cameras are carrying a virus that infects other cameras. Someone should write Stephen King. Nah he already wrote a story about the camera from hell.

Why does it seem like there are so many getting caught recently? DQ requests increased substantially?

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

04/16/2004 04:34:40 PM · #6

Hey now. I'm not getting "caught" for anything. My camera has some problem where I have to reset the date and time everytime I switch media types and in a state of delusion I accidentally put the year as 2003. I did not cheat. The validity of my shot would be fairly easy to prove if given the chance.

moodville

Nikon D100

04/16/2004 04:38:36 PM · #7

My question is.... unless people are psychic they cant know while voting that your camera had the year wrong, so what was the original DQ request for?

I also dont want to come across as a mean-spirited person because really I'm not, honest, and this isnt directed at any one particular DQ'd person... but really, the duty of care should be on the photographer to ensure that their equipment/camera displays the right date seeing as the challenges are very time critical. It would seem unfair for one person to be allowed to keep their image in a challenge because they shot something with or of that they could provide time-stamped proof of and someone who couldnt supply the same proof get tossed out on their ear. I would supply a real world analogy but I just cant think of one right now.

geewhy

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

04/16/2004 04:42:24 PM · #8

Apparently, the image in the other thread was taken with a Nikon d70 and therefore it was not possible for the 2003 date to be anything more than an error..but the last I read..it had been DQ`d..end of story.
I understand the need for rules to be enforced, but I would have thought that commonsense would rule in cases like this and a little bit of flexibility shown when the need arises.

Hope you`re successful Jason, but based on the above, don`t build up your hopes.

Gordon

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

04/16/2004 04:45:37 PM · #9

Originally posted by moodville:

I certainly agree for cases where the date is wrong as that would be difficult to prove unless it was taken at a specific event. When only the year is wrong, however, it seems like a perfectly logical mistake.

Oh and my photo was doing very well so I figured it would be in the top 10 which are all supposed to validate their photos at the end of the challenge. I was just trying to get that over with early!

There is either something wrong with my camera or with the way I do something because more often than not everytime I turn my camera on it says "date and time not set". Often I am in a rush to set the date and time so I can get the photo that I want so mistakes can and do happen. I was careful about the month and day because of the challenge but my overworked brain temporarily thought I was still in last year. :)

Thanks Gordon. I can only hope for commmon sense to prevail in this situation, but given what happened to the d70 photo I am losing hope fast. :(

Message edited by author 2004-04-16 16:49:04.

04/16/2004 05:01:41 PM · #10

Jason I did not mean to sound as if I was making an accusation, my thinking was that in order for this to occur a request for dq has to be made. As per your explanation, your dq request was self inflicted.

I'm still curious if the number dq request has risen dramatically. It seems this problem is common. I left wondering if every photo in the current challenges were validated how many more photographs would be eliminated?

Prof_Fate

04/16/2004 05:59:33 PM · #11

The rules state, in BOLD:

To avoid the possibility of disqualification be sure to check that the date and time on your camera are set correctly before taking any pictures you may use as challenge entries. We will no longer accept this an excuse. You have been forewarned.

This is rather strong wording. I would doubt than any excuse regarding year, camera was not made then, the day's newspaper was in the shot, etc would hold water.

Canon EF 400mm f/5.6L USM

04/16/2004 06:33:43 PM · #12

In any event Jason, should you get dq'd please repost your photo back to your portfolio and share it with us. You're one of the more talented photographers on this site and I would like to see your photo.

"Study of Monday's Test" was an exceptional photo and I hope the one your discussing is just as great.

Refracted

Canon EOS-50D

04/16/2004 07:40:27 PM · #13

ok, hypothetical situation...

Someone has his date set wrong on this camera.. it's actually a week ahead for example.. he takes pics that week.. then the next week there's a contest asking for motion blur shots. He remembered he took pics the week before that would fit.. and finds out the date on them are from the current week.. if submitted, would that photo actually pass off as legal? Since the date is a user-entered value, i can't see how we can base so many DQ's on that.. so silly in a way..

Canon EF 400mm f/5.6L USM

04/16/2004 07:43:05 PM · #14

I would ask him to pick some lotto numbers for me, he sounds psychic

Refracted

Canon EOS-50D

04/16/2004 07:45:55 PM · #15

hehe.. but if someone was determined on entering a challenge in say.. 4 weeks time.. he could set his camera so that it always recorded as that week, and collect photos for a month.. all having valid dates.. i hope i'm not giving anyone ideas.. but it's a flaw in the system really.. granted if the contest subject is very specific, this might not help much.. but some are quite broad :)

04/16/2004 07:52:23 PM · #16

If one has the will there's always a way to cheat. In the end it's they who get cheated. I'm sure there's software available to modify the exif data. You just have to search for it or hack the data yourself.

imo if you do that for something of little import as the challenges here, you've got some serious mental issues.