Disqualified! Can't believe it...

04/16/2004 06:27:45 AM · #1

I was asked to send in my original file for the window view challenge.
Why I don't know...
So I sent in my original .NEF RAW data file from my new Nikon D70.

Now I get this message:
"This image has been disqualified for the following reason:

Your photograph must be taken within the submission dates for the challenge, and have a valid datestamp to prove it. Please review the submission rules."

I checked the datestamp: 2003-04-08 08:25
...and the EXIF data: 2003/04/08 08:25:11.1

I have the wrong year 2003 instead of 2004 in my new Nikon D70!!! Arrgghhhh!!! =8-o

It is pretty ovious that my picture is taken this month. Since the Nikon D70 model is brand new and released 19th of march 2004.
My EXIF data clearly says "Nikon D70".

PLEASE REINSTATE ME INTO THE CHALLENGE!
Best Regards -Hans

04/16/2004 06:30:35 AM · #2

if it's true the model of your cam is in the exif and the model can't be from 2003 then I guess you have a case there. In my opinion they should put it back.

04/16/2004 06:32:21 AM · #3

That is a shame Have you any other pictures that may prove the date...Like pictures of things that could not have occured before the shot you entered was taken? Newspapers etc...

04/16/2004 06:36:13 AM · #4

Looked on dpreview and it says on D70 "Announced 28-Jan-04" so I don't see any way the shot could be taken in 2003.

General

Kodak Z7590

04/16/2004 06:36:57 AM · #5

I think they should realize you have a d70, which was not there in 2003, so they have to over look this issue

04/16/2004 06:36:58 AM · #6

ceipts for the camera purchase may help... are you a new member? have you been using another camera?Be reasonable they are all great people and having a wrong date stamp is a VALID reason for DQ although you have a good point if it shows D70 in an unaltered date stamp.... although if the picture was taken outside of the challenge even by a minute they would have a just cause for dismissing it... hope that cool minds will prevail and you can PROVE your point.was the date off by excactly 1 year ... no days hours & minutes?

04/16/2004 06:40:57 AM · #7

I'd say email admins and explain all these to them if you haven't done this already don't expect them to find it here in the forums too quickly.

MotoCycleBoi

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

04/16/2004 06:41:36 AM · #8

Originally posted by Rasai:

That is a shame Have you any other pictures that may prove the date...Like pictures of things that could not have occured before the shot you entered was taken? Newspapers etc...

Well I just uploaded a picture into my portfolio from a ski competition that took place 2004-03-28. That is proof I guess...

Message edited by author 2004-04-16 06:42:10.

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

04/16/2004 06:45:32 AM · #9

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

if it's true the model of your cam is in the exif and the model can't be from 2003 then I guess you have a case there. In my opinion they should put it back.

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

Looked on dpreview and it says on D70 "Announced 28-Jan-04" so I don't see any way the shot could be taken in 2003.

Originally posted by general:

I think they should realize you have a d70, which was not there in 2003, so they have to over look this issue

Originally posted by MotoCycleBoi:

Well I just uploaded a picture from a ski competition that took place 2004-03-28. That is proof I guess...

So if I set the year on my camera to 2000 I can shoot any photos and enter them into challenges in the future?

04/16/2004 06:51:16 AM · #10

Originally posted by robsmith:

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
if it's true the model of your cam is in the exif and the model can't be from 2003 then I guess you have a case there. In my opinion they should put it back.

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Looked on dpreview and it says on D70 "Announced 28-Jan-04" so I don't see any way the shot could be taken in 2003.

Originally posted by general:
I think they should realize you have a d70, which was not there in 2003, so they have to over look this issue

Originally posted by MotoCycleBoi:
Well I just uploaded a picture from a ski competition that took place 2004-03-28. That is proof I guess...

So if I set the year on my camera to 2000 I can shoot any photos and enter them into challenges in the future?

no, but if you have a camera hat whas released this year and the date is exactly 1 year back I think I would trust something like that if I were an admin.

Message edited by author 2004-04-16 06:52:57.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/16/2004 06:59:43 AM · #11

Robs comment is using some kind of pretzel logic I guess... With valid exif info indicating a D70 and a date and time of April 8th would be a reasonable argument and perhaps worthy of consideration... I submitted the requested info for a DQ to them mid day Friday and just a few momnets ago it was Validated - yes there is hope... I can't help but to think that many would have voted my picture higher had the voters been informed and BELIVED it was a real picture.... many comments left indicated that they believed it was not& could not be real! I will not shoot myself in the foot like that again.... & ALWAYS check the date before you shoot... Good Luck with this...

faidoi

Pentax K10D

04/16/2004 07:05:35 AM · #12

To avoid the possibility of disqualification be sure to check that the date and time on your camera are set correctly before taking any pictures you may use as challenge entries. We will no longer accept this an excuse. You have been forewarned.

as stated in the rules. Unfortunately or fortunately depending on your view every entry submitted has to check mark the "Yes, I have followed the applicable editing rules taking into account any extra rules listed above."

This definitely sucks but this may become precedence.

Message edited by author 2004-04-16 07:10:37.

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

04/16/2004 07:15:18 AM · #13

Originally posted by Rasai:

Robs comment is using some kind of pretzel logic I guess...

What the heck is pretzel logic?

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/16/2004 07:16:15 AM · #14

Indeed it does...but its not as bad as I didn't know the gun was loaded. If its any consulation I like the work you've posted and with a good eye and a good tool you'll do well here. Please put a copy of it in your portfolio I'd like to see what you did & how I voted. Well I have a day or two to recoup from the low scores on my entry now that its been validated!

faidoi

Pentax K10D

04/16/2004 07:19:25 AM · #15

Originally posted by robsmith:

Originally posted by Rasai:
Robs comment is using some kind of pretzel logic I guess...

What the heck is pretzel logic?

Twisted logic?

candycorn

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

04/16/2004 07:22:40 AM · #16

To avoid having the wrong date/time in the future use the feature in the Nikon View 6 software which came with your camera to sync your camera's date and time with your computer. It can be found in the tranfer overview in help. Each time you download your pictures your camera will automatically sync up.

Good luck.

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

04/16/2004 07:27:00 AM · #17

Originally posted by candycorn:

But what if you have the wrong year set on your computer? :)

KevinRiggs

Canon EOS-1Ds

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

04/16/2004 07:51:33 AM · #18

It's not like this problem is new. The rules are very clear about this. Anyone who has been here even a little time should know this. I'm surprised that Nikon released a camera with the wrong year set on it. I figured it'd be something totally whacked out like 2000 or 1999 or something instead of exactly a year off. Some good, trusting people may get caught in the web of rules that supposed to protect the integrity of the challenge entries but I think you should just take it in stride, change the date on the camera and keep on submitting to challenges.
Missing out on a challenge isn't the end of the world. You'll enter more.

Kev

Jacko

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

04/16/2004 07:54:42 AM · #19

I dunno but I bet it's great with beer.

Originally posted by robsmith:

Originally posted by Rasai:
Robs comment is using some kind of pretzel logic I guess...

What the heck is pretzel logic?

04/16/2004 07:54:42 AM · #20

It's pretzel logic time then...

MotoCycleBoi