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03/09/2004 09:56:38 AM · #1
Hi Guys,
Take a look at this,
I bracketed the exposure and "auto levelled" in p.s.
Give me your critique please,
I am not happy, is it just lack of filter on the lens or noise ?
F10 1/640 at 400iso
03/09/2004 10:34:43 AM · #2
peecee, do you have a polarizing filter ? first, do you have the adapter tube so that you can put filters on your lense? if not you should get one... i always shoot at ISO 160 on my 602. looks to me like you metered for the sky, so the foreground came out a bit too dark. a polarizer might've helped a bit.
03/09/2004 11:56:53 AM · #3
Originally posted by jxpfeer:

peecee, do you have a polarizing filter ? first, do you have the adapter tube so that you can put filters on your lense? if not you should get one... i always shoot at ISO 160 on my 602. looks to me like you metered for the sky, so the foreground came out a bit too dark. a polarizer might've helped a bit.
I intend getting a polarizer,is it the cause of the haze ?
I took quite a few, some are worse than others, auto leveling made it too dark, as I bracketed i chose the best one.
Thanks Jason
03/09/2004 12:01:51 PM · #4
I think what you'll find would make the most difference would be being there about 4 hours earlier or later...
03/09/2004 12:10:58 PM · #5
Originally posted by Gordon:

I think what you'll find would make the most difference would be being there about 4 hours earlier or later...

You may be correct there Gordon, usually the case, it's having the time I suppose,
Paul.
03/09/2004 01:14:51 PM · #6
i agree with gordon. i think the light is too harsh there to get a good even exposure. the polarizer would help enhance the colors of the sky a bit, without losing so much of the foreground. try the same place at dusk and see what you get ;)
03/09/2004 01:17:50 PM · #7
Originally posted by jxpfeer:

i agree with gordon. i think the light is too harsh there to get a good even exposure. the polarizer would help enhance the colors of the sky a bit, without losing so much of the foreground. try the same place at dusk and see what you get ;)


Yep, only trouble is, it is way up on the Yorkshire moors, better take a bodyguard :)
Thanks guys,
04/15/2004 02:33:39 PM · #8
I got myself a polarizer and tried again, I like the results.
Comments anybody please,
04/15/2004 02:41:46 PM · #9
looks like you had better lighting too - with sun on more of the land - sure helped a lot either way!
04/15/2004 04:12:23 PM · #10
Originally posted by Gordon:

looks like you had better lighting too - with sun on more of the land - sure helped a lot either way!

I took note of your tips on the time of day, lovely evening.
Thanks.
04/15/2004 05:15:12 PM · #11
I think Auto Levels is fine for a quick edit in some cases but I would suggest geting used to manually adjusting the levels. It is still very quick to do. The Auto Levels does a decent job when your photo has a lot of different elements of varying tones but lots of times with landscapes it will make the land too dark because it wants to set something to pure black and something to pure white. The sky with the pure white parts of the clouds were properly leveled but the land area might have gone too dark. By adjusting the levels yourself you can be careful of this and you can also adjust the mid tones to a lighter tone which would help this photo. If you are even more ambitious you can learn to use the Curves tool which gives you even more control but it takes some learning. If you have PS CS you could try using the tool for bringing out highlights in the shadows that might be effective. Of course these tips will never make it as good as doing it right in the first place with filters and/or better lighting but hopefully it will help. Good job on the second photo.

T
04/15/2004 06:22:10 PM · #12
Originally posted by timj351:

I think Auto Levels is fine for a quick edit in some cases but I would suggest geting used to manually adjusting the levels. It is still very quick to do. The Auto Levels does a decent job when your photo has a lot of different elements of varying tones but lots of times with landscapes it will make the land too dark because it wants to set something to pure black and something to pure white. The sky with the pure white parts of the clouds were properly leveled but the land area might have gone too dark. By adjusting the levels yourself you can be careful of this and you can also adjust the mid tones to a lighter tone which would help this photo. If you are even more ambitious you can learn to use the Curves tool which gives you even more control but it takes some learning. If you have PS CS you could try using the tool for bringing out highlights in the shadows that might be effective. Of course these tips will never make it as good as doing it right in the first place with filters and/or better lighting but hopefully it will help. Good job on the second photo.

T


I totally agree with tim, but would like to add that the levels correction in PS seems to work better with B&W shots while the curves is by far the better choice for color shots.
04/15/2004 06:28:10 PM · #13
what they said....

hey, peecee - your second one is great! love the effect the clouds give the area too.

I think it was all about exposure. What were your original settings? And how do they compare to the second one?
04/15/2004 09:02:29 PM · #14
It gives a slightly artificial look when you compare it with the original, but I've tried to bring back some of the brightness of your original. It is a shame to give up on such a nice shot.

Picture is here and here without the light fringe on the horizon.

Those who can, photograph. Those who can't, edit.
04/16/2004 01:28:14 AM · #15
Thanks guys for your imput,
I will give the curves a go and play about with the shadows,
I think this tip will help with another shot I am working on.
Karen, I am at work at the moment ,I will post the details of both shots tonight when I get home,
Thanks again, I think I am finally getting more half decent shots than poor ones. It pays to listen.
04/16/2004 02:41:19 PM · #16
Originally posted by KarenB:

what they said....

hey, peecee - your second one is great! love the effect the clouds give the area too.

I think it was all about exposure. What were your original settings? And how do they compare to the second one?

Ok Karen:

Manual/the best of 3 bracketed: F10: ISO400: 1/630sec. about 2.oopm

normal program/ ISO200: F3.6: 1/200 sec about 7.30pm
I know the settings were probably all wrong with the first one, especially the white balance, but taking note of the comments received and the use of a polarizer have improved it a lot.
Thanks again everyone.
Paul.
04/16/2004 02:49:23 PM · #17


Hope you don't mind. I used the curves adjustment in PS to do this.
04/16/2004 02:54:37 PM · #18
Originally posted by Brooklyn513:


Hope you don't mind. I used the curves adjustment in PS to do this.

I don't mind at all Tom,
vast improvement, I'll take a look at them curves.
Thanks.
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