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04/01/2004 08:38:14 AM · #1 |
Someone commented on the "burned out sky" in my photo. LOL.......I guess they've never been to the UK. :-)
The sky outside my window at the moment is bright, light grey, featureless and neverending. I think UK outdoor photographers should get extra points for dealing with such boring light.
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04/01/2004 08:41:05 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by Tallbloke:
Someone commented on the "burned out sky" in my photo. LOL.......I guess they've never been to the UK. :-)
The sky outside my window at the moment is bright, light grey, featureless and neverending. I think UK outdoor photographers should get extra points for dealing with such boring light.
Steve |
Boring light? Probably the best light for outdoor photography, not too harsh - it's like having a massive softbox on the sun. Don't moan about it, use it. |
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04/01/2004 08:46:09 AM · #3 |
Hey
Mr serious
I wasnt moaning, I was having a "light" hearted giggle. |
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04/01/2004 08:56:43 AM · #4 |
You should actually be stunned that froggie had a serious answer. That's a rare thing indeed!
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04/01/2004 09:26:42 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Tallbloke:
Someone commented on the "burned out sky" in my photo. LOL.......I guess they've never been to the UK. :-)
The sky outside my window at the moment is bright, light grey, featureless and neverending. I think UK outdoor photographers should get extra points for dealing with such boring light.
Steve |
Steve, You are not alone.. I`ve had around 12 of my 18 comments remark about the sky being "overexposed" I must have been out on the same day as you.
I cursed my luck when I saw the conditions as it made my shot a very difficult one to get right exposure wise.Some blue sky and sunshine would have improved things beyond measure. As the sky only makes up around 5% of the image..I didn`t think it was such a big deal..but some people obviously disagree.
Very frustrating
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04/01/2004 03:37:26 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Tallbloke:
The sky outside my window at the moment is bright, light grey, featureless and neverending. I think UK outdoor photographers should get extra points for dealing with such boring light.
Steve |
I thought you we're talking about San Francisco. |
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04/01/2004 04:29:10 PM · #7 |
or vermont 6 months of the year...
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04/01/2004 04:58:07 PM · #8 |
You sure you don't mean Michigan?? The sun here goes into hiding in late October, and is just now returning for brief visits.
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04/01/2004 05:03:30 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Tallbloke:
Someone commented on the "burned out sky" in my photo. LOL.......I guess they've never been to the UK. :-)
The sky outside my window at the moment is bright, light grey, featureless and neverending. I think UK outdoor photographers should get extra points for dealing with such boring light.
Steve |
The only comment I have so far, says my sky is blown out. Which, I knew it was, but pretty much liked the effect, until I looked at it on my uncalibrated laptop display. Ouch! :)
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04/01/2004 05:34:35 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by moodville:
You should actually be stunned that froggie had a serious answer. That's a rare thing indeed! |
True - it is probably some sort of April Fool thing
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04/01/2004 06:12:16 PM · #11 |
| I've had alot of comments on my sky, granted I agree with a few of them, but I got a weird one that said "Why are there bands in the sky?" I have no idea what they are talking about! |
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04/01/2004 06:28:48 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Blinks:
I've had alot of comments on my sky, granted I agree with a few of them, but I got a weird one that said "Why are there bands in the sky?" I have no idea what they are talking about! |
That is likely someone with a graphics card that isn't set to show 32bit colour. If you are using 16 bit or less, you get banding, particularly in large areas of similar colour, like skies.
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04/01/2004 06:38:14 PM · #13 |
| You should read the article about light in this other thread. The author specifically mentions overcast about 4-5 paragraphs down .... |
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04/01/2004 06:40:58 PM · #14 |
great article
Thanks for the link
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04/01/2004 07:54:52 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Tallbloke:
Someone commented on the "burned out sky" in my photo. LOL.......I guess they've never been to the UK. :-)
The sky outside my window at the moment is bright, light grey, featureless and neverending. I think UK outdoor photographers should get extra points for dealing with such boring light.
Steve |
I have learned a few hard lessons about including the sky in my photos. The sky is just like any other element in a photograph. If you include it in the photo, you should be including it for a purpose. If you have a dreary gray sky to work with, it should enhance your photo in some way if you choose to include it. If you include it and it is NOT enhancing the image, then the photo suffers overall.
Clear skies and partly cloudy skies can often enhance any photo. They offer texture, shape, and color to the image. Solid gray skies with no texture visible won't usually do much for your presentation. There are some instances where it will, such as a snowy scene in black and white.
Solution:
1. Don't shoot. Go back some other time. Take a few snaps while you are there so you can study the composition possibilities before you go back.
2. Don't include the sky. Focus on some interesting element in your scene and exclude the big picture idea for that particular day.
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04/01/2004 09:47:38 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Blinks:
I've had alot of comments on my sky, granted I agree with a few of them, but I got a weird one that said "Why are there bands in the sky?" I have no idea what they are talking about! |
That is likely someone with a graphics card that isn't set to show 32bit colour. If you are using 16 bit or less, you get banding, particularly in large areas of similar colour, like skies. |
Gordon, I'm glad you mentioned that. I made a comment on someone else's out of place entry that the banding was distracting and, after reading your post, checked my monitor setup and found it was at 16 bit. Set it to 32 and bands are gone. Don't know why it was turned down. I'm going fix my comment and up his/her score. Thanks! |
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04/01/2004 11:09:25 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Clear skies and partly cloudy skies can often enhance any photo. They offer texture, shape, and color to the image. Solid gray skies with no texture visible won't usually do much for your presentation. There are some instances where it will, such as a snowy scene in black and white.
Solution:
1. Don't shoot. Go back some other time. Take a few snaps while you are there so you can study the composition possibilities before you go back.
2. Don't include the sky. Focus on some interesting element in your scene and exclude the big picture idea for that particular day. |
3. Use the Magic Wand tool, feather, and drop in an interesting sky you shot last Fall. (Sorry, I misplaced my photographic integrity a couple of weeks ago ...) |
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04/01/2004 11:26:28 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
(Sorry, I misplaced my photographic integrity a couple of weeks ago ...) |
That is why i prefer contests where the rules allow more or any editing. However, the Basic Editing rule forces me to pay attention. There is only so much you can do in PS, and half of it makes things worse. |
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04/01/2004 11:31:17 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
3. Use the Magic Wand tool, feather, and drop in an interesting sky you shot last Fall. (Sorry, I misplaced my photographic integrity a couple of weeks ago ...) |
4. Make sure you know what you are doing if you follow rule #3. I see fake skies all the time where the perspective is completely wrong on it.
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04/01/2004 11:37:23 PM · #20 |
[quote] That is likely someone with a graphics card that isn't set to show 32bit colour. If you are using 16 bit or less, you get banding, particularly in large areas of similar colour, like skies.
Gordon, I'm glad you mentioned that. I made a comment on someone else's out of place entry that the banding was distracting and, after reading your post, checked my monitor setup and found it was at 16 bit. Set it to 32 and bands are gone. Don't know why it was turned down. I'm going fix my comment and up his/her score. Thanks! [/quote]
Thanks for the explination, it makes alot of sense. I just wish I could get the person who left the comment to check there monitor or read these posts.
Message edited by author 2004-04-01 23:40:55. |
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04/02/2004 12:53:13 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by Blinks:
[quote] Thanks for the explination, it makes alot of sense. I just wish I could get the person who left the comment to check there monitor or read these posts. |
Blinks, just go back to the comment and send them a PM. |
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04/02/2004 01:26:02 AM · #22 |
| Can I do that? Won't that take away from the anoynimity? |
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04/02/2004 01:28:41 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by Blinks:
Can I do that? Won't that take away from the anoynimity? |
You can always start a new thread about banding and hope they see it or at least others might find the same problem and correct it. |
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04/02/2004 06:17:03 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Blinks:
Can I do that? Won't that take away from the anoynimity? |
Yes, I would say so, but I don't know of any absolute rule against talking to a voter during voting. I think your request that they check their color settings would not be objectionable, but asking a voter directly or indirectly to change their score would be.
If the admins want full anonymity, then they should not identify the sources of the comments during voting. |
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