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12/15/2010 09:35:20 AM · #5276 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Sorry, Robert.....I call BS on this one as Johnny has on numerous occasions pointed out his views on how privileged and arrogant we Americans are in his eyes.
His general verbiage is consistent with his views expressed elsewhere on a few occasions...... |
In other words, "Johnny can say whatever the heck he wants, *I* know what he really means..."
Doesn't wash with me.
R. |
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12/15/2010 12:01:46 PM · #5277 |
| Let me clear this up and put an end to this argument. I do believe that many Americans are arrogant, particularly when they are traveling in other countries. However, my statement was about "westerners" not "Americans". The discussion was in the context of people traveling to other countries for sporting events and being subject to that country's laws. I was operating within that context. Also, I was in no way suggesting that the news article was talking only about Americans (hence the use of "westerner") and I was in no way directing my statement at Jac. The "you" in my sentence was supposed to refer back to "people" but it would have been clearer to use "they" instead of "you" so I apologize for that confusion. At any rate, my use of quotations should have made it clear that "our country" was what the "arrogant westerner" might say and not what I myself was saying. In other words, the quoted section was merely hypothetical. |
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12/21/2010 06:36:07 AM · #5278 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Sorry, Robert.....I call BS on this one as Johnny has on numerous occasions pointed out his views on how privileged and arrogant we Americans are in his eyes.
His general verbiage is consistent with his views expressed elsewhere on a few occasions...... |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
In other words, "Johnny can say whatever the heck he wants, *I* know what he really means..."
Doesn't wash with me.
R. |
No, Robert, not in other words, or ANY words. I was explaining what my take on it was based on previous discussions about this very type of topic. Do not do to me the very thing you're accusing me of, do not tell me what I mean, and for that matter, take your whole attitude about assuming I mean the worst and put a sock in it.It isn't on topic, and it's at least tiring, and not just a little offensive.
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12/21/2010 08:51:52 PM · #5279 |
Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional, DNDT repealed, and now this. Gay rights are undeniably evolving.
Message edited by author 2010-12-21 20:52:00. |
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01/11/2011 06:26:51 PM · #5280 |
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01/11/2011 06:30:07 PM · #5281 |
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01/11/2011 07:06:50 PM · #5282 |
Umm....
If, like I am, one is an adopted child, then the terms "mother" and "father" aren't technically correct, are they?
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01/12/2011 12:54:15 PM · #5283 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Umm....
If, like I am, one is an adopted child, then the terms "mother" and "father" aren't technically correct, are they? |
A "mother" is the female person and a "father" is the male person who raised you. I have 2 adopted boys and I am their father (along with my wife being their mother). |
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01/12/2011 01:23:22 PM · #5284 |
Originally posted by Nullix:
A "mother" is the female person and a "father" is the male person who raised you. I have 2 adopted boys and I am their father (along with my wife being their mother). |
And a "parent" is the adult who raised you, regardless of their gender. For the purpose of a passport application, the gender of the parent(s) is irrelevant. |
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01/12/2011 03:39:07 PM · #5285 |
Originally posted by Nullix:
A "mother" is a female person and a "father" is a male person who birthed or raised you. I have 2 adopted boys and I am their father (along with my wife being their mother). |
Fixed it, despite the syntactical awkwardness.
I have a friend, with straight parents, who has two mothers. An adoptive mother, and a birth mother.
I hope you weren't suggesting by your overly restrictive definition that one of them is mistaken. |
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01/12/2011 03:51:35 PM · #5286 |
Originally posted by Mousie:
Originally posted by Nullix:
A "mother" is a female person and a "father" is a male person who birthed or raised you. I have 2 adopted boys and I am their father (along with my wife being their mother). |
Fixed it, despite the syntactical awkwardness.
I have a friend, with straight parents, who has two mothers. An adoptive mother, and a birth mother.
I hope you weren't suggesting by your overly restrictive definition that one of them is mistaken. |
Does your friend see their adoptive mother and birth mother in the same category?
Who did they goto when they had scary dreams?
Who did they turn to when they were sad or hungry?
Isn't that who mommy is?
Of course, we always honor our boy's birth mothers and include them in our prayers. It takes a very special woman to give her child up for adoption rather than using other methods. |
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01/12/2011 04:05:05 PM · #5287 |
where on Earth does it say that? what a silly conclusion to jump to. |
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01/12/2011 04:30:37 PM · #5288 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
where on Earth does it say that? what a silly conclusion to jump to. |
I does mean that "mothers AND fathers" -- exactly one of each -- are not required to form a family unit. (Although the phrasing of the comment, with both stated in the plural, also suggests some sort of plural marriage -clearly not necessary)
You can have a valid family with one mother, one father, two mothers, two fathers, or one of each (here not even considering extended families such as are common in many cultures) ...
Message edited by author 2011-01-12 16:31:31. |
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01/12/2011 04:37:14 PM · #5289 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
where on Earth does it say that? what a silly conclusion to jump to. |
I think it was Adolf Hitler who first said it. He thought the State was better qualified, not much different than many liberals in America believe today :(
Message edited by author 2011-01-12 16:42:29. |
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01/12/2011 04:43:23 PM · #5290 |
| Is DPC getting over run with parody-bots again? |
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01/12/2011 04:53:41 PM · #5291 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
where on Earth does it say that? what a silly conclusion to jump to. |
I think it was Adolf Hitler who first said it. He thought the State was better qualified, not much different than many liberals in America believe today :( |
As compared with conservatives, who believe that corporations are better qualified ... |
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01/12/2011 06:46:49 PM · #5292 |
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01/12/2011 07:02:55 PM · #5293 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Certainly not I. |
No, you believe some imaginary entity is better qualified. |
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01/12/2011 07:11:38 PM · #5294 |
| Actually I belive I myself is better quilified. You just had to throw a punch didn't you? |
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01/12/2011 07:14:53 PM · #5295 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Actually I belive I myself is better quilified. You just had to throw a punch didn't you? |
No more than you did on 'liberals'. Or are you the only one that gets to make over the top statements about groups of people?
Message edited by author 2011-01-12 19:16:10. |
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01/12/2011 07:18:03 PM · #5296 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
I think it was Adolf Hitler who first said it. He thought the State was better qualified, not much different than many liberals in America believe today :( |
Godwin's Law has hereby been invoked. |
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01/12/2011 07:20:17 PM · #5297 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by David Ey:
I think it was Adolf Hitler who first said it. He thought the State was better qualified, not much different than many liberals in America believe today :( |
Godwin's Law has hereby been invoked. |
We're already way past that, JH. |
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01/12/2011 07:45:06 PM · #5298 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Actually I belive I myself is better quilified. |
Porcupines are better quilified than either of you. |
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01/12/2011 09:33:48 PM · #5299 |
| Someone's obviously not into wordplay. :) |
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01/12/2011 09:34:39 PM · #5300 |
| I know what he said....and what he meant. |
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