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03/14/2004 06:32:54 PM · #1 |
Are people going to vote down portraits of anything other than a human? Just curious how this is being interpreted...
Renee
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03/14/2004 06:34:45 PM · #2 |
good portraits get good scores...subject shouldn't matter
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03/14/2004 06:49:26 PM · #3 |
I hope everything living will be counted fairly, but somehow doubt it:(
I personally might go the non human route. |
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03/14/2004 07:50:00 PM · #4 |
| Personally, I think a non-human subject might be risky because of all the "doesn't fit the challenge" voters. The challenge details specifically say Portraiture is a classic photographic form that typically captures the face of a person. (emphasis mine). Just something to think about.... |
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03/14/2004 08:03:33 PM · #5 |
Well, let's say that the photo isn't a real person, and it's something that represents a human form. Come on voters, at least a point or two higher for being creative and thinking out of the box for the moment for those photos that are not human. I have a funny feeling about this challenge...at least I didn't apply tape to the mouth of this portrait challenge. :) Well see, and good luck folks.
Message edited by author 2004-03-14 20:06:01. |
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03/14/2004 08:05:25 PM · #6 |
| Several non-humans in the old Black and White Portrait challenge. |
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03/14/2004 08:11:27 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Everyday Renee:
Are people going to vote down portraits of anything other than a human? Just curious how this is being interpreted...
Renee |
We will givw 10's to all cat/dog/kid/bug on flower photos!
We can't have challenge without them! :-) |
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03/14/2004 08:19:37 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by pitsaman:
Originally posted by Everyday Renee:
Are people going to vote down portraits of anything other than a human? Just curious how this is being interpreted...
Renee |
We will givw 10's to all cat/dog/kid/bug on flower photos!
We can't have challenge without them! :-) |
LOL
Message edited by author 2004-03-14 20:21:14. |
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03/14/2004 08:37:23 PM · #9 |
| I'll definitely add another point if the idea is not too out of the box and if the photo is taken very well. Sometimes, its good to challenge the "challenge". |
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03/14/2004 08:52:33 PM · #10 |
Call me old-fashioned.
One of the main points of DPC is as a forum which helps us develop our photographic skills. Challenges are set up with that in mind, as a kind of surrogate photography class exercise, if you will.
A people portrait challenge should be just about that. Just imagine what would happen at a real class if students handed in non-human subjects for a portrait assignment. They'd be branded 'smart arses' by the teacher very quickly.
I'm going to say that I will be marking down non-human entries. Any more who'll state their decision openly? |
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03/14/2004 09:03:40 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Call me old-fashioned.
One of the main points of DPC is as a forum which helps us develop our photographic skills. Challenges are set up with that in mind, as a kind of surrogate photography class exercise, if you will.
A people portrait challenge should be just about that. Just imagine what would happen at a real class if students handed in non-human subjects for a portrait assignment. They'd be branded 'smart arses' by the teacher very quickly.
I'm going to say that I will be marking down non-human entries. Any more who'll state their decision openly? |
The challenge does not state a 'people portrait challenge' and animal portraits is a very large and respected field of wildlife/nature photography. Not everything that is taken with a camera is suppose to be geared toward the professional studio photographer that caters to weddings, senior pictures, and 5 year olds dressed up with more make up than Tammy Faye.
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03/14/2004 09:08:25 PM · #12 |
A portrait of a non-human is still a portrait. I have seen a lot of great animal shots that I would classify as a portrait. Let's be a little more open minded people. It's a portrait challenge, not a PEOPLE portrait challenge.
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03/14/2004 09:10:30 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Call me old-fashioned.
One of the main points of DPC is as a forum which helps us develop our photographic skills. Challenges are set up with that in mind, as a kind of surrogate photography class exercise, if you will.
A people portrait challenge should be just about that. Just imagine what would happen at a real class if students handed in non-human subjects for a portrait assignment. They'd be branded 'smart arses' by the teacher very quickly.
I'm going to say that I will be marking down non-human entries. Any more who'll state their decision openly? |
where did the challenge say PEOPLE PORTRAIT?
It said portrait. It described traditional portraiture, but did not say that is what is expected. |
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03/14/2004 09:12:08 PM · #14 |
Would you like a portrait shot?
Who?,Me?
Are you nuts!? Go do some girls!
Now give me the whole bag of seeds as you promissed!
Message edited by author 2004-03-14 21:17:37. |
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03/14/2004 09:56:06 PM · #15 |
The challenge description states clearly,
Portraiture is a classic photographic form that typically captures the face of a person.
I'm not saying that other types are not acceptable in general photography, but for this challenge, I believe that the intention was for human subjects.
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03/14/2004 09:59:07 PM · #16 |
typically..but not ALWAYS. Sorry for shouting.
pitsaman, very funny. Now go find a woman.
I will be scoring on the quality and emotional content of the picture. |
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03/14/2004 10:10:17 PM · #17 |
yeah i agree with that it does not necesarily have to be a person portrait.. however for a picture to be a portrait, i believe the subject has to pose for the picture to become a portrait(candid or not).. ie.. fish cannot pose...
Message edited by author 2004-03-14 22:10:48.
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03/14/2004 10:11:13 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by pcody:
typically..but not ALWAYS. Sorry for shouting.
pitsaman, very funny. Now go find a woman.
I will be scoring on the quality and emotional content of the picture. |
I think that's a key factor (emotional content.) I think it's hard to capture personality in a photo and do it well. I think a good portrait should tell something about the character of the person....or even of the animal. For me, this challenge was about people portraits, but I won't automatically count off for other types.
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03/14/2004 10:16:22 PM · #19 |
Description: Portraiture is a classic photographic form that typically captures the face of a person. Have a go at creating a portrait.
Typically is not must !
Expression of emotion and picture quality should count,must be natural not faked....
Good luck to everyone!
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03/14/2004 10:17:40 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Call me old-fashioned.
One of the main points of DPC is as a forum which helps us develop our photographic skills. Challenges are set up with that in mind, as a kind of surrogate photography class exercise, if you will.
A people portrait challenge should be just about that. Just imagine what would happen at a real class if students handed in non-human subjects for a portrait assignment. They'd be branded 'smart arses' by the teacher very quickly.
I'm going to say that I will be marking down non-human entries. Any more who'll state their decision openly? |
I reserve my decision until I see the picture.
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03/14/2004 10:36:51 PM · #21 |
| I think any majority 'face' fits, outside the box is always good in my opinion....lets see those dogs and cats, just make sure its a GOOD shot. |
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03/14/2004 10:47:49 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
...just make sure its a GOOD shot. |
Hrm, subjective no? What could be good to myself, may be crap to someone else. May the goodestest win! :-D
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03/14/2004 10:52:20 PM · #23 |
I'd quite happily argue that this is a portrait style image, taken with fairly typical portrait techniques and lighting.
The mentally tricky part to recognise is that techniques and subjects can mostly be treated as independant - the fact that certain techniques and styles are usually associated with certain subjects is just a matter of convention, that can often stifle creativity. |
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03/14/2004 10:53:34 PM · #24 |
There is a silent sect who will vote down any entry which does not have a human subject. I'll go so far as to say that some will also vote down full-length human subjects.
I've been bitten very deeply by the 'off-topic' sect and know that they are out there in droves.
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03/14/2004 11:07:05 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
There is a silent sect who will vote down any entry which does not have a human subject. I'll go so far as to say that some will also vote down full-length human subjects.
I've been bitten very deeply by the 'off-topic' sect and know that they are out there in droves. |
I'm not sure I understand the point to this comment. Are you saying that you are the leader of such sect, or at least their PR spokesperson? Or are you saying that you have been bitten by the 'off-topic' sect and are now apart of them like some strange communicable disease? Or are you letting those that allow an ounce of creativity show in their images that they will be crushed beneath those that are striving for the purity of photography.
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