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08/08/2010 06:14:16 PM · #801 |
| Pixelpig -- Thank you for the kind words and selection. jean |
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08/08/2010 07:08:20 PM · #802 |
Thanks Paul!
It's particularly nice to pick up an award for this one as it is the first shot I've entered in a while without any regard to score!
Cheers! |
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08/08/2010 07:31:50 PM · #803 |
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08/08/2010 07:32:20 PM · #804 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
this photo needs a look:
p.s. I pick my ribbons anonymously before the results are known. I don't pick charity cases. I pick great pictures. |
I liked this one too. Gave me the idea of run-away-bride....and I immediately thought of Dave-whats his name who, if I read the rant correctly, was to be wed and she changed her mind. Lucky guy.
I like entries that tell a story, especially one I can relate to. |
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08/09/2010 12:12:49 AM · #805 |
Minimalism in B&W - what a wonderful challenge to vote! Of my top picks, one was in the top 20 - the others:
 by  pointandshoot (and no he doesn't pay me)
 by Art Roflmao (desolation is so good for this topic, and the tree leaning away is what made the shot)
 by clive_patric_nolan (and no, he doesn't pay me either)
 by paulbtlw (minimalism with soul!)
 by stanmoore (again, nice use of the desolation theme)
 by posthumous (I should really get these guys to pay me!) |
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08/09/2010 04:33:07 AM · #806 |
Most Under Appreciated IMHO (aka MUAIMHOs)
Minimalism in Black and White
  
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08/09/2010 08:19:30 AM · #807 |
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08/09/2010 09:48:00 AM · #808 |
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08/09/2010 10:22:20 AM · #809 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Perhaps I am not understanding the basic premise of these awards, but I look at some of the scores meted out on a lot of these images and a good number fared rather well... as in 6 or better.
Surely it can`t be the scores people are bemoaning... or is it?
Could someone enlighten me?
Ray |
Hi Ray--speaking for myself only, I make my top picks for flower shots before voting is closed, that way I'm reacting only to the shot (not to the photographer). Sometimes I get a surprise & one of my picks does well in the voting. I think maybe you're thinking that the picks should happen after we know the scores, & only among the low-scoring shots & I think maybe some people do that. I challenge you (double-dog dare you) to make your 3 top picks in one of the challenges, it's fun. Just sayin'. |
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08/09/2010 10:28:22 AM · #810 |
Thanks for the mentions  Melethia & vlado. |
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08/09/2010 11:04:19 AM · #811 |
Much appreciated, Deb! I'm disappointed you haven't yet received my check.
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08/09/2010 11:50:25 AM · #812 |
A few of my 10s which did not ribbon but express the essence of minimalism:
 by insomniac
 by gyaban
 by The Eskimo
 by  UrfaTheGreat
 by bcrants
So many beautiful images in this challenge!
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08/09/2010 12:06:31 PM · #813 |
| By the way, my picks are done by sorting the challenge results by my vote (it's an option - look over on the left when viewing challenge results), then skipping over any that may have been in the top twenty or fifty (FS, for example ). So mine are picked before the challenge ends. Easy peasy! Try it yourself. |
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08/09/2010 12:43:24 PM · #814 |
| Thank you [user]vlado[/user. I apprciate it very much! |
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08/09/2010 12:44:22 PM · #815 |
Check's in the mail, Deb.
Instead of ribbons (too much goodness to narrow down to ribbons), I will present my idea of Minimalism. Look at my comments for information on why photos are or are not Minimalism. All the photos got 7+ scores from me, though (which is also explained in my comments).
In case you're curious, none of the ribbon winners are Minimalist. If you want my opinion on the Minimalism of YOUR photo, drop me a note and I'll comment on it.
Minimalism, IMHO
10
by gyaban
 by idealodds
 by otto22
 by herfotoman
 by cutout
 by tnun
 by ChelseyAmanda
 by David Ey
9
by clive_patric_nolan
 by bvy
8
 by dahlin
 by pixelpig
7
 by colorcarnival
 by bassbone
 by charliebaker
excellent photos that strayed from Minimalism, imho
8
 by JulietNN
 by dtallakson
 by love
 by mhlambi (but not as far off as the voters thought)
7
 by abuscemi
 by EgillP
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08/09/2010 01:46:27 PM · #816 |
FROM: posthumous
Minimalism, IMHO
10
by herfotoman
An honour, sir. |
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08/09/2010 01:55:27 PM · #817 |
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08/09/2010 02:30:46 PM · #818 |
There was one photo in particular that I felt really pushed the envelope in Minimalism:
It was too easy to dismiss this photo during the challenge as a brown grab or as some sort of bad joke, and the same is pretty much true after the challenge. charliebaker has something of a reputation for going deliberately against the grain and collecting votes of 1.
But David's photo here, although hardly the only excellent photo in this challenge, is the only one that said something new or different. All the other photos, no matter how accomplished or how well technically presented, stayed in relatively straightforward and safe territory. As David's title (which is too unwieldy to try to reproduce here) indicates, this photo is as reductive as photography can be, and places an enlarged single pixel--the digital-photographic equivalent of a Planck length--in isolation on a field of white. The sharp, stark lines are a theme familiar to minimalism, as seen in this classic work:
... but no traditional media could capture the perfectly straight line between black and white; no artist's brush could render form with such binary accuracy. What David did in his photo is something that can only be accomplished with the zeros and ones of a computer. It's a contribution to minimalism that is truly unique to digital photography.
It's hard to say something new in art, and harder still to say something new that can be said only in a particular medium. David's photo not only accomplishes the feat of furthering the creative photographic dialectic, but to a viewer who is willing to stop a moment and think rather than decide that, since it doesn't fit into any preconceived category of what a photo should look like, this image is a waste of time, but it also forces us to reconsider what a photograph really is. It's as literal a representation of the outside world as any light-based exposure is, but the abstraction makes it unrecognizable. The play of light, crucial to the tonal variations that give our visual world meaning, is lost in the harshly presented subject; lost, too, is any semblance of organic form that makes things look alive or real, but this is still a photograph. It's a photograph like you haven't seen before, and it's worth taking a moment to stop and notice.
Message edited by author 2010-08-09 14:33:30. |
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08/09/2010 03:08:34 PM · #819 |
Originally posted by mycelium:
It's hard to say something new in art, and harder still to say something new that can be said only in a particular medium. David's photo not only accomplishes the feat of furthering the creative photographic dialectic .... but it also forces us to reconsider what a photograph really is. |
Enjoyed your essay, but do you really have to posit him as doing something nobody's ever done before? How do you know that? These ideas do not strike me as utterly new. |
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08/09/2010 03:18:44 PM · #820 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Minimalism in B&W - what a wonderful challenge to vote! Of my top picks, one was in the top 20 - the others:
by clive_patric_nolan (and no, he doesn't pay me either)
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This was one of my favs of the challenge |
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08/09/2010 03:20:23 PM · #821 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by mycelium:
It's hard to say something new in art, and harder still to say something new that can be said only in a particular medium. David's photo not only accomplishes the feat of furthering the creative photographic dialectic .... but it also forces us to reconsider what a photograph really is. |
Enjoyed your essay, but do you really have to posit him as doing something nobody's ever done before? How do you know that? These ideas do not strike me as utterly new. |
You're right, I've run the risk of making an overly bold claim.
That being said, I stand by my words for two reasons. First, I think that anything anyone ever says will always have an implicit "I think" or "in my opinion" attached; I can thus circumscribe my statement (in at least some technical sense) to the realm of my own experience, and I haven't seen anything like David's photo on DPC or elsewhere. Second, the context is important. Maybe someone has, at another time and for other reasons, posted a photo that's essentially a hypercontrasty blow-up of an image some 30x30 pixels in dimension, but not (again, to my knowledge) having done so an expression of minimalism. Take Duchamp's Fountain, for instance--it was his claim that his treatment of a urinal made it a work of art that created a sensation, showing that presentation is a major component of creative display.
Message edited by author 2010-08-09 16:11:44. |
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08/09/2010 04:04:05 PM · #822 |
Originally posted by mycelium:
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by mycelium:
It's hard to say something new in art, and harder still to say something new that can be said only in a particular medium. David's photo not only accomplishes the feat of furthering the creative photographic dialectic .... but it also forces us to reconsider what a photograph really is. |
Enjoyed your essay, but do you really have to posit him as doing something nobody's ever done before? How do you know that? These ideas do not strike me as utterly new. |
You're right, I've run the risk of making an overly bold claim.
That being said, I stand by my words for two reasons. First, I think that anything anyone ever says will always have an implicit "I think" or "in my opinion" attached; I can thus circumscribe my statement (in at least some technical sense) to the realm of my own experience, and I haven't seen anything like David's photo on DPC or elsewhere. Second, the context is important. Maybe someone has, at another time and for other reasons, posted a photo that's essential a hypercontrasty blow-up of an image some 30x30 pixels in dimension, but not (again, to my knowledge) having done so an expression of minimalism. Take Duchamp's Fountain, for instance--it was his claim that his treatment of a urinal made it a work of art that created a sensation, showing that presentation is a major component of creative display. |
Yeah, I make overly bold claims all the time, but your example is perfect. Duchamp is to Art what Einstein is to Physics and Freud is to Psychology. I don't think "Charlie's Pixel" is quite on that level, but I do enjoy your arguments in that direction. After all, why bother arguing an easy case? |
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08/09/2010 05:02:40 PM · #823 |
My posthumous selection for minimalism b&w:
 by IreneM;  by liberty; by clive_patric_nolan;  by svava; by gyaban;  by odriew; by CJinCA;
by paulbtlw by vawendy
Message edited by author 2010-08-10 01:44:15. |
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08/09/2010 05:28:44 PM · #824 |
Thanks for the mention and comment Don. Both are much appreciated.
Originally posted by posthumous:
by dahlin
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08/09/2010 06:21:55 PM · #825 |
"There was one photo in particular that I felt really pushed the envelope in Minimalism:"
Thanks for the props Damon mycelium.
Some wondered at the long title. I considered a minimalist title at first, but intuition got the better of me and I ended up collapsing a variety of words and concepts from the wiki link offered in the forum Forum: "Before Voting in Minimalism". I also included the words "sharp lined" to give the nod to coryboehne for his forum post. Overall, the title/photo ended up in an oxymoronic entry with the maximalism of the title possibly balanced by the minimalism of the image. Or, maybe it was all just another weak attempt at DPC humor?
Message edited by author 2010-08-09 18:23:22. |
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