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03/01/2004 02:17:47 PM · #1 |
Okay, I'm going to be incredibly dense here, but i was wondering what peoples intepretation of this weeks challenge is. Does anything man-made automatically fall within the remit of the challenge? I mean, nearly everything has been designed and engineered to work at one stage. or is it that a certain detail of something man-made is desired? A particularly stylish door handle from a car, or a certain part of an imac, say? Or am I reading too deeply into all of this? I've been racking my brains and I'm not sure if I should be taking a picture of a suspension bridge, or the bolt that keeps it together.
Please tell me to shut up if I'm being stupid. |
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03/01/2004 02:26:29 PM · #2 |
My idea of a design and engineering theme would include images where the actual design of the subject creates the impact in the photo. A spoon is man made and it is 'designed' but its not particularly interesting. A fork is designed also, and slightly more interesting photographically than a spoon. A computer circuit board shows some interesting 'design'. The insides of a mechanical watch... gears... pulleys, levers, etc... things fitting together... strong shapes...
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03/01/2004 02:29:28 PM · #3 |
| I think either the bridge or the bolt would fit the topic. A flower or a cat would be a severe stretch. Use your imagination with the details of the topic as a very general guideline. Usually the voters will tolerate a wider divergence from fitting the topic to high quality images, and ones that show a lot of creativity. |
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03/01/2004 02:51:32 PM · #4 |
| And don't forget architecture, like buildings or structures that have a unique design. Or if you can capture a normal design and making interesting from a different angle. |
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03/01/2004 03:00:17 PM · #5 |
I guess this is going to be one that will have a WIDE variety of subjects, and a lot of people may submit simple subjects that are still very well engineered/designed and others may not see it that way.
so you must look at from the voters perspective....what do the voters want to see??? Something different for sure....
James
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03/01/2004 03:15:27 PM · #6 |
It will work about the same way any challenge does. "Design and Engineering" should be the strength of the shot.
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03/01/2004 03:36:57 PM · #7 |
John - why is a spoon not interesting? I mean, of course, in your opinion - this isn't a preparation for a flame.
Ed
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03/01/2004 03:40:37 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by e301:
John - why is a spoon not interesting? I mean, of course, in your opinion - this isn't a preparation for a flame.
Ed |
Within the context of a 'design and engineering' challenge, a spoon is mundane when you compare it to an intricately designed mechanical watch. It doesn't hold much splendor compared to the wheels and armature of an old steam locomotive.
A spoon is more interesting in some other context :)
PS- I was one of your 10 votes on the simplicity challenge :)
Message edited by author 2004-03-01 15:42:10.
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03/01/2004 03:47:06 PM · #9 |
aaaaahummmmm.......aaaaahummmmm...having visions of German automobiles.....aaaaahummmmm........aaaaahummmmm
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03/01/2004 04:03:54 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
PS- I was one of your 10 votes on the simplicity challenge :) |
And very flattering that is too. I think my personal line on it would be that what we're after here is a coherence of form and function - be it in a steam locomotive, or a kitchen utensil. There's a strong idea that 'real' beauty is actually born out of such coherence. I'm not sure of an area in which i can think of an example of this at the moment - and I'm not sure that if I did I'd be letting everyone know, either.
A question all submitters might do well to ask themselves: why is a wine glass wine-glass-shaped?
Is that not design and engineering?
E
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03/01/2004 04:11:33 PM · #11 |
But, as we all know, form follows function. Which brings forth a whole new set of images.
lost the addition... anyway, the thrust was, does it work the other way round?
Message edited by author 2004-03-01 16:14:15.
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03/01/2004 04:14:00 PM · #12 |
| ah, so I need to find a glass blower? |
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03/01/2004 07:48:25 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by e301:
A question all submitters might do well to ask themselves: why is a wine glass wine-glass-shaped?
Is that not design and engineering?
E |
To play devil's advocate, the wine glass shapes devloped over a long period of trial and error and subjective anecdotal evidence (why should a champagne flute be shaped differenty than a glass of Bordeaux?). This is not the result of stating a problem, analyzing the science behind it, and predictively designing a viable solution. That we can "reverse engineer" the qualities and design which go into the manufacture of a wine glass, and say it was more a product of design but maybe not "engineered."
But if it's a good picture I'll certainly vote it high -- I'm a strong believer in stretching the boundaries of the challenge topics (just check my average!). |
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03/01/2004 07:57:14 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by e301:
And very flattering that is too. I think my personal line on it would be that what we're after here is a coherence of form and function - be it in a steam locomotive, or a kitchen utensil. There's a strong idea that 'real' beauty is actually born out of such coherence. I'm not sure of an area in which i can think of an example of this at the moment - and I'm not sure that if I did I'd be letting everyone know, either.
A question all submitters might do well to ask themselves: why is a wine glass wine-glass-shaped?
Is that not design and engineering?
E |
You are correct, but form and function doesn't necessarily equate to a strong theme in 'design and engineering'. A butter knife has form and function. So does a cotton swab. They don't show a strength in design IMO.
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03/01/2004 08:07:02 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
...form and function doesn't necessarily equate to a strong theme in 'design and engineering'. A butter knife has form and function. So does a cotton swab. They don't show a strength in design IMO. |
How about a special aluminum and Dacron swab, designed to not poison the bacteria being sought (as the cotton does) and thin enough to not lacerate your urethra? |
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03/01/2004 08:17:39 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
...form and function doesn't necessarily equate to a strong theme in 'design and engineering'. A butter knife has form and function. So does a cotton swab. They don't show a strength in design IMO. |
How about a special aluminum and Dacron swab, designed to not poison the bacteria being sought (as the cotton does) and thin enough to not lacerate your urethra? |
I think you should definitely photograph that for the challenge :)
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03/01/2004 08:49:53 PM · #17 |
There is a big difference between meeting the challenge by a stretch and hitting people over the head with the theme - it helps to be blunt but might bruise your artistic ego.
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03/01/2004 09:43:20 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
My idea of a design and engineering theme would include images where the actual design of the subject creates the impact in the photo. |
How about a hand and an Xray of a hand - Designed and Engineered by God?
Oh well - I know the answer majority will give - my recent entries have suffered "not fitting the challenge" but who cares :D
Message edited by author 2004-03-01 21:47:15.
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03/01/2004 10:38:18 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
...form and function doesn't necessarily equate to a strong theme in 'design and engineering'. A butter knife has form and function. So does a cotton swab. They don't show a strength in design IMO. |
How about a special aluminum and Dacron swab, designed to not poison the bacteria being sought (as the cotton does) and thin enough to not lacerate your urethra? |
I think you should definitely photograph that for the challenge :) |
Well the problem is, if I show it in use it violates the site's TOS -- I think I better get suspended over something more important! |
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03/01/2004 10:51:35 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
How about a special aluminum and Dacron swab, designed to not poison the bacteria being sought (as the cotton does) and thin enough to not lacerate your urethra? |
Ouch. Discomfort. Ouch. |
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03/01/2004 10:54:24 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by redmoon:
Does anything man-made automatically fall within the remit of the challenge? I mean, nearly everything has been designed and engineered to work at one stage. |
Exactly, so it means that anything man made fits the challenge to some point... However those entries that fit BEST will do better. What fits "best" is a whole other topic.
A bridge is the first thing that pops into my mind for "Engineering" however bridges may be "Mundane" at this point, so even tho it may "fit" the challenge perfectly, doesn't mean it's the pic that people will like the best. I think anything that fits the challenge well AND is new or different or not seen so much will do well. I'll probably just roam around town looking for something interesting. I also have another idea, although it's a fairly common thing, I might be able to get a good perspective on this, not sure yet. |
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03/01/2004 11:28:47 PM · #22 |
Well, now I'm not submitting my spoon picture.. haha. kidding.
All this form/function talk makes me think of the book the Foutainhead.
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03/01/2004 11:34:36 PM · #23 |
Any made object is the product of engineering design at some level.
If you are looking for inspiration, try reading something by Henry Petrosky, he writes about engineering design in a way that is accessable by non-engineers.
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03/02/2004 10:30:18 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
A flower or a cat would be a severe stretch. |
How about a cat in a tensile tester?
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03/02/2004 10:30:55 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by coolhar:
A flower or a cat would be a severe stretch. |
How about a cat in a tensile tester? |
Cats are genetically designed and engineered.
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