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03/18/2010 02:51:10 PM · #4676 |
Originally posted by Mousie:
I'd like to revisit this bit:
Originally posted by johnnyphoto:
One hundred years from now I don't want the border police to ask me, "is your husband traveling with you?" just because my passport says, "Marital Status: Married". |
This strikes right at what I feel is actually behind the whole damn issue. Male sexual insecurity. |
Isn't that the basis of all forms of homophobia?
And, I think the border police will be asking everyone "Is your spouse with you?" or be losing their jobs ... seems to me that's accurate and respectful "enough for government use." |
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03/18/2010 05:14:42 PM · #4677 |
Originally posted by Mousie:
I'd like to revisit this bit:
Originally posted by johnnyphoto:
One hundred years from now I don't want the border police to ask me, "is your husband traveling with you?" just because my passport says, "Marital Status: Married". |
This strikes right at what I feel is actually behind the whole damn issue. Male sexual insecurity. |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Isn't that the basis of all forms of homophobia? |
Yes
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03/24/2010 01:51:24 PM · #4678 |
Pardon me for not scanning this entire thread to find out if this has been said before, but... I just read the following:
"... in the year 2010, people can still legally be fired from their jobs in at least 29 U.S. states simply because of their sexual orientation or gender identity."
I did not know that!
OK, back to the marriage talk. |
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03/24/2010 10:44:02 PM · #4679 |
[user]johnnyphoto[/user] has left the building.
Don't let the door hit ya...
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04/01/2010 07:36:05 AM · #4680 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Mousie:
I'd like to revisit this bit:
Originally posted by johnnyphoto:
One hundred years from now I don't want the border police to ask me, "is your husband traveling with you?" just because my passport says, "Marital Status: Married". |
This strikes right at what I feel is actually behind the whole damn issue. Male sexual insecurity. |
Isn't that the basis of all forms of homophobia?
And, I think the border police will be asking everyone "Is your spouse with you?" or be losing their jobs ... seems to me that's accurate and respectful "enough for government use." |
Not to mention he won't be here in 100 years anyway... This is just hilarious. Plus I would presume the word spouse would be used and the husband/wife terms would start to die out in official language anyhow. One would hope.
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04/02/2010 05:47:37 PM · #4681 |
Gays can now marry in our nation's capitol, Washington DC.
The first couple to wed there now that it's legal were two black lesbians, clearly illustrating how equal marriage rights are not just an issue for affluent white males who happen to be gay, but for all sorts of people.
Message edited by author 2010-04-02 17:52:06. |
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04/02/2010 07:09:11 PM · #4682 |
Originally posted by Mousie:
Gays can now marry in our nation's capitol, Washington DC.
The first couple to wed there now that it's legal were two black lesbians, clearly illustrating how equal marriage rights are not just an issue for affluent white males who happen to be gay, but for all sorts of people. |
Hopefully, all of this resistance will dissipate and everyone enjoy equally,
Ray |
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04/02/2010 08:58:27 PM · #4683 |
Originally posted by Mousie:
The first couple to wed there now that it's legal were two black lesbians... |
How many existing marriages do you think were suddenly affected by the event? Did their spouses turn ugly or begin flirting with goats? Perhaps a plague of locusts invaded the Lincoln Memorial? Surely they're trying to think of what to call their marriage now that it's been "redefined" (just like we started called "voting" something different when women were included). Idiots. |
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04/02/2010 09:04:00 PM · #4684 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Perhaps a plague of locusts invaded the Lincoln Memorial? |
There's a plague of locusts (actually, grasshoppers) about to hit (Lincoln) Nebraska, and several other western states. Isn't that close enough? |
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04/02/2010 09:09:47 PM · #4685 |
| Yeah, but those would be states where gay marriage ISN'T allowed. |
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04/02/2010 11:12:54 PM · #4686 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Yeah, but those would be states where gay marriage ISN'T allowed. |
I think I just hurt something laughing!
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04/06/2010 03:56:00 PM · #4687 |
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04/06/2010 06:50:38 PM · #4688 |
Okay.....I'm confused....
Flash, I thought you opposed gay rights.
This sure seems like a reasoned, well written article explaining how gay people are just.......people.
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04/06/2010 07:25:00 PM · #4689 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Okay.....I'm confused....
Flash, I thought you opposed gay rights. |
I was thinking the same thing. A link that portrays gays as just regular people who aren't really a threat to anything seems wildly out of character for Flash. Maybe a change of heart? |
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04/07/2010 06:44:00 AM · #4690 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Okay.....I'm confused....
Flash, I thought you opposed gay rights.
This sure seems like a reasoned, well written article explaining how gay people are just.......people. |
You confuse my arguments with my position. Arguing that something is against a scriptural teaching does not in itself make that the position of the arguer. It only makes it their argument. It might be their position or it may not be. That does not however change the fact that an action is or is not in line with certain teachings. Each can decide for themselves whether they wish to adhere to those teachings or not - and many many here have made that/those decision(s).
The purpose for the post (link) was that regardless of my position, there are some participants here that might consider this person's viewpoint (in their overall understanding of the issue). Still does not change the teaching - but it does allow some to evaluate the teaching from another perspective - the perspective of a gay man raising a teenage child with a live in partner - and how their lives are just like everyone elses.
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06/03/2010 01:10:25 PM · #4691 |
I change is coming. However, my views and believes will not allow me to participate in this month's pride.
Presidential Proclamation--Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month
Originally posted by Our President:
NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2010 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month. I call upon all Americans to observe this month by fighting prejudice and discrimination in their own lives and everywhere it exists. |
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06/03/2010 01:15:22 PM · #4692 |
Originally posted by Nullix:
I change is coming. However, my views and believes will not allow me to participate in this month's pride. |
You can't be proud of a country which believes in fighting discrimination and prejudice? |
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06/03/2010 02:39:13 PM · #4693 |
| When is the "It's great to be straight!!" pride month? |
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06/03/2010 03:13:44 PM · #4694 |
| The same day as the "Thank god I'm white" day. |
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06/03/2010 03:21:17 PM · #4695 |
| I think those are the other eleven months |
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06/03/2010 08:23:42 PM · #4696 |
Louis, you never read that article I linked you on IM! Shame on you.
Why are so many girls lesbian or bisexual?
Message edited by author 2010-06-03 20:30:02.
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06/03/2010 08:46:28 PM · #4697 |
Originally posted by Nullix:
I change is coming. However, my views and believes will not allow me to participate in this month's pride.
Presidential Proclamation--Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month
Originally posted by Our President:
NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2010 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month. I call upon all Americans to observe this month by fighting prejudice and discrimination in their own lives and everywhere it exists. |
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June has been LGBT month long before Obama took office.
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06/03/2010 09:39:39 PM · #4698 |
I can tell you why without reading the article.
Have you ever LOOKED at one? |
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06/03/2010 10:53:55 PM · #4699 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
I can tell you why without reading the article.
Have you ever LOOKED at one? |
Oh, c'mon David... the ones that don't *LOOK* "like lesbians", you have no clue. That's a ridiculously bigoted thing to say :-) Or maybe you were being funny?
R.
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06/03/2010 11:08:34 PM · #4700 |
I'm pretty sure he was joking. Somehow. :)
The article, I think, is interesting in the nature/nurture debate. One would expect the more stable the figures run over the years, the more nature plays a role; the more variable, the more nurture does. Generally I think most people think things boil down to a heavy dose of genetics and a light dose of environment. Perhaps it's the other way around? I just found the numbers surprising and would not have anticipated them.
Message edited by author 2010-06-03 23:11:41. |
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