Contre-Jour II - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

12/05/2009 06:48:02 AM · #26

Yikes! Good thing I shoot with a Canon or I'd be blind AND up in flames by now. :-)

ErikV

Nikon D7000

12/05/2009 07:13:12 AM · #27

Originally posted by Magnum_za:

From my Nikon Manual:

Keep the sun out of the frame
Keep the sun well out of the frame when
shooting backlit subjects. Sunlight
focused into the camera when the sun is
in or close to the frame could cause a fire.

Do not look at the sun through the viewfinder
Viewing the sun or other strong light
source through the viewfinder could
cause permanent visual impairment.

A bit like the warning on the side of a McDonald's Coffee cup:

Warning! Contents may be hot!

Who do I sue? :)

My seeing eye dog and I plan to sue DPC for telling me to shoot into the sun so I can pay for my hospital stay at the burn center.

RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

12/05/2009 09:10:18 AM · #28

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

By definition, contre jour refers to pointing the camera directly at the light source. It's simple. We're making it complicated.R.

Robert is absolutely right in this regard... in French, "Contre-jour" is defined as "Ã contrejour avec la lumiÃ¨re (du soleil ou de l'Ã©clairage) placÃ©e derriÃ¨re le sujet regardÃ© ou photographiÃ©" ,which translates into what Robert said.

Best of luck to all in this one.

Ray

12/05/2009 09:23:26 AM · #29

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

By definition, contre jour refers to pointing the camera directly at the light source. It's simple. We're making it complicated.R.

Robert is absolutely right in this regard... in French, "Contre-jour" is defined as "Ã contrejour avec la lumiÃ¨re (du soleil ou de l'Ã©clairage) placÃ©e derriÃ¨re le sujet regardÃ© ou photographiÃ©" ,which translates into what Robert said.

Best of luck to all in this one.

Ray

The light source doesn't need to be in the frame. It can be reflected onto a white surface and bounced back behind the subject creating the same effect.

12/05/2009 09:26:54 AM · #30

But it's SO much better to have the light source in the frame. It's a very fun way to shoot. Now if I could just find a light source.... the one I prefer is not going to make an appearance this week.

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

12/05/2009 11:38:11 AM · #31

Originally posted by Melethia:

But it's SO much better to have the light source in the frame. It's a very fun way to shoot. Now if I could just find a light source.... the one I prefer is not going to make an appearance this week.

It would be, just not the direct source, only the reflected light. Like that image of the pigeons you posted somewhere, I forget where. That was reflected light from the sun on the sidewalk if I'm not mistaken.

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

12/05/2009 11:45:12 AM · #32

I'm being brave this week! Instead of the DPC friendly absolutely gorgeous shots that people are going to come up with, I have a funky, kinda edgy shot that won't do nearly as well. But I really, really like it. (It's not that I don't want to do edgy, I just don't know how to find/see it, so it's fun when I stumble across one!)

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

12/05/2009 11:46:45 AM · #33

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by Melethia:
But it's SO much better to have the light source in the frame. It's a very fun way to shoot. Now if I could just find a light source.... the one I prefer is not going to make an appearance this week.

It would be, just not the direct source, only the reflected light. Like that image of the pigeons you posted somewhere, I forget where. That was reflected light from the sun on the sidewalk if I'm not mistaken.

For sure. Imagine a mirrored building reflecting the light at you, the way it produces panes of light on the ground? Pose your subject there, that's cotre jour. Like Deb's pigeons shot he's mentioning.

R.

12/05/2009 11:47:30 AM · #34

Originally posted by Melethia:

And I can't go back to try again... wah!!

That one? One page back in this thread? :-) I was shooting directly at the sun, by the way, but yeah I see your point about it not needing to be in the frame. Still helps to shoot in that direction.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

12/05/2009 03:16:47 PM · #35

Well darn, I like my shot, but I know it's not classic. I'm working over in A Bug's Life at the moment. Maybe I'll go that way.

EDIT: OK, I got me a ribbon over there. ;) So you guys can argue whether this would have been Contre-Jour or not...

Message edited by author 2009-12-05 15:40:33.

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6D ED

12/05/2009 06:39:10 PM · #36

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by Melethia:

And I can't go back to try again... wah!!

That one? One page back in this thread? :-) I was shooting directly at the sun, by the way, but yeah I see your point about it not needing to be in the frame. Still helps to shoot in that direction.

lol doh! Yup that's the one. :)

The Eskimo

Nikon D3s

12/05/2009 07:48:28 PM · #37

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

OK, IMO it is a classic Contre-Jour. You have some secondary fill light behind you but the camera is pointed at the primary light source, the stadium lights. The fill light behind you compliments the overall shot.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

12/05/2009 07:58:12 PM · #38

Originally posted by The Eskimo:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Well darn, I like my shot, but I know it's not classic. I'm working over in A Bug's Life at the moment. Maybe I'll go that way.

EDIT: OK, I got me a ribbon over there. ;) So you guys can argue whether this would have been Contre-Jour or not...

OK, IMO it is a classic Contre-Jour. You have some secondary fill light behind you but the camera is pointed at the primary light source, the stadium lights. The fill light behind you compliments the overall shot.

Actually, the lighting in the stadium is symmetrical; that is to say there's exactly the same lights behind him, and that's what's lighting the cheerleaders. So, now what?

R.

Message edited by author 2009-12-05 19:58:28.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/05/2009 10:10:20 PM · #39

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I would give this a 4 or 5 because the contre-jour effect just isn't there. Your subjects are lighted by other lights than the ones behind them. If they were silhouetted against those lights then we would be closer tot he mark me thinks.

Jedusi

12/06/2009 07:18:01 AM · #40

The most amazing thing about the cheerleader photo is that the guys are holding them up with just one hand ! ok - and the fact that the girls are both smiling and balancing . . even if someone lifted me up like that I sure wouldn't be smiling !!

Message edited by author 2009-12-06 08:20:30.

samchad

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

12/06/2009 04:07:07 PM · #41

Any suggestions as to how to achieve Contre-jour without lens flare, or is that an accepted outcome with this type of image?

lyn100

Nikon D90

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED VR

12/06/2009 04:20:59 PM · #42

The description says the 'main' light source not the 'only' light source so I am taking this at it's word.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

12/06/2009 05:34:38 PM · #43

Originally posted by Jedusi:

They got mad skillz and lotsa practice :-)

R.

CNovack

Canon EOS-600D/T3i Rebel

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

12/06/2009 08:05:06 PM · #44

Weather has not been co-operating for the past three days for the idea I have...if the skies do not clear it looks like I will have to table the idea for another time:-(

But on the other hand that means I will still get to enjoy what others come up with. Good luck to all who enter! Looking forward to seeing some creative, nice and beautiful work:-)

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

12/08/2009 09:57:41 AM · #45

I'm so sad. Contre jour is one of my favorite shooting styles/methods, but I am not able to enter this week. No sun. Sniff....

mefnj

Nikon D7100

12/08/2009 04:18:59 PM · #46

Originally posted by Melethia:

I'm so sad. Contre jour is one of my favorite shooting styles/methods, but I am not able to enter this week. No sun. Sniff....

cheer up... you can use artificial light, right? (i checked in the prvious contre-jour challenge and quite a few artificial light photos made the top 30).

-mefnj

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

12/08/2009 05:15:35 PM · #47

Originally posted by mefnj:

Originally posted by Melethia:
I'm so sad. Contre jour is one of my favorite shooting styles/methods, but I am not able to enter this week. No sun. Sniff....

cheer up... you can use artificial light, right? (i checked in the prvious contre-jour challenge and quite a few artificial light photos made the top 30).

-mefnj

I counted two, unless you count Glad2badad's image which could be artificial light too. That would be three. ;\

Paul

Leica SL

12/08/2009 05:40:16 PM · #48

I don't know about others, but editing under basic rules was a bit of a challenge!

Louis

Nikon D800

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

12/08/2009 06:15:22 PM · #49

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by mefnj:

Originally posted by Melethia:
I'm so sad. Contre jour is one of my favorite shooting styles/methods, but I am not able to enter this week. No sun. Sniff....

cheer up... you can use artificial light, right? (i checked in the prvious contre-jour challenge and quite a few artificial light photos made the top 30).

-mefnj

I counted two, unless you count Glad2badad's image which could be artificial light too. That would be three. ;\

Wha? I stopped counting at 27, and that doesn't include glad's or other "questionable" ones.