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02/10/2004 02:20:33 PM · #1
How about an abstract or impressionistic challenge? Suggested this a while back but haven't seen it come to fruition.
02/10/2004 02:45:30 PM · #2
That would be nice, as that type of photo usually doesn't do that well here. Although, the fairly recent Soft Focus challenge and some of the "shapes" challenges somewhat overlap.
02/10/2004 02:58:09 PM · #3
True, GeneralE,, but maybe with a challenge devoted to these types of work, it could help people look at them in a new way. Rather than trying to compare them to the well lit, well focused photo's that are popular.

Message edited by author 2004-02-10 14:58:47.
02/10/2004 03:04:22 PM · #4
Originally posted by JC_Homola:

True, GeneralE,, but maybe with a challenge devoted to these types of work, it could help people look at them in a new way. Rather than trying to compare them to the well lit, well focused photo's that are popular.

Right, that's what I meant ...
02/10/2004 03:05:45 PM · #5
i'll keep submitting off beat photos - for any challenge i have a suitable image for, and deal with the mediocre votes...

even my 9% shots i really dont think are bad - its just not what the majority likes to see i guess, or people dont take the time to look.

my shadow entry was a stretch, a photo of me and the camera - the camera is always with me, and therefore like my shadow... a stretch and the votes show it.
17 -1's, 19 - 2's, 26 - 3's.... but its a 1/6th sec shutter handheld
would have won the steady hand challenge for sure... what can you do.




02/10/2004 03:17:22 PM · #6
Originally posted by soup:

...snip... but its a 1/6th sec shutter handheld
would have won the steady hand challenge for sure... what can you do.
..snip..


Gives me an idea for another challenge: Camera Shake. Take a picture, at low shutter speed, and shake (not pan) the camera for the best artistic effect.

Message edited by author 2004-02-10 15:18:56.
02/10/2004 04:33:39 PM · #7
Originally posted by nshapiro:

Gives me an idea for another challenge: Camera Shake. Take a picture, at low shutter speed, and shake (not pan) the camera for the best artistic effect.


Kinda like this? Took it while driving through downtown this weekend, if that ain't shaky I don't know what is! :)
02/10/2004 05:16:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by jenesis:

Originally posted by nshapiro:

Gives me an idea for another challenge: Camera Shake. Take a picture, at low shutter speed, and shake (not pan) the camera for the best artistic effect.


Kinda like this? ..snip..


Yep! My son "pioneered" this technique (in my family) with his digital camera, sometimes to good effect! Here's one I took with his camera:



His are actually more adventurous than mine. If we had such a challenge, I am sure he would join in!


Message edited by author 2004-02-10 17:18:03.
02/10/2004 05:36:41 PM · #9
Originally posted by soup:

i'll keep submitting off beat photos - for any challenge i have a suitable image for, and deal with the mediocre votes...

even my 9% shots i really dont think are bad - its just not what the majority likes to see i guess, or people dont take the time to look.

my shadow entry was a stretch, a photo of me and the camera - the camera is always with me, and therefore like my shadow... a stretch and the votes show it.
17 -1's, 19 - 2's, 26 - 3's.... but its a 1/6th sec shutter handheld
would have won the steady hand challenge for sure... what can you do.



At the risk of seeming rude, I'm going to be blunt with you soup. This picture deserved the low scores that it got. The use of a negative image didn't convey anything challenge related or add anything aesthetic value , in my opinion, to the shot. If you wanted to use the negative look to illustrate a shadow, then it wasn't very clear or effective. Saying "your camera is your shadow" is also a bit obtuse. Just because something is a constant companion, doesn't imply that it does everythign that you do, like the notion of a person as a shadow implies. There were similar ideas expressed during this challenge that captured this concept more effectively.

I understand people being frustrated with creative approaches that get slammed in the voting because they tried something different. That does not mean however, that every creative approach has merit. (I have plenty of my own shots that suck)

Please don't take this as a personal attack - it is constructive criticism. Your example image, in this case, just wasn't very good.

Dave
02/10/2004 08:01:44 PM · #10




Though abstract or impressionistic are two pretty different things I think, it would be a fun challenge though and a good basic editing challenge to restrict the 'water colour' and 'impressionism' filter usage maybe...
02/10/2004 08:06:38 PM · #11
hee hee, i like that .. kind of a quivery shivery jello world . .

Originally posted by jenesis:

Originally posted by nshapiro:

Gives me an idea for another challenge: Camera Shake. Take a picture, at low shutter speed, and shake (not pan) the camera for the best artistic effect.


Kinda like this? Took it while driving through downtown this weekend, if that ain't shaky I don't know what is! :)

02/10/2004 08:08:43 PM · #12


i have always liked this shot, gordon.

although for some reason I keep wanting the enlargement to be as blurry as the thumbnail :)

Message edited by author 2004-02-10 20:14:12.
02/10/2004 08:12:55 PM · #13
this is my favorite camera shake pic : P



I took it in Madrid, Spain last October.
02/10/2004 08:14:51 PM · #14
its a cliche - like your 6 year old might not do everything you do - but never the less may be refered to as your shadow... i knew no one would get it - it isn't a bad photo overall in my mind, and given the camera settings... is all i was trying to say - the votes dont really bother me - i could have been blunt myself and titled it 'my camera is my shadow because it is with me all the time'... but opted to leave it to the viewer to try to figure it out... to each his own.

i'm not the least bit frustrated with anything but the cold outside.

Originally posted by dsa157:

At the risk of seeming rude, I'm going to be blunt with you soup. This picture deserved the low scores that it got. The use of a negative image didn't convey anything challenge related or add anything aesthetic value , in my opinion, to the shot. If you wanted to use the negative look to illustrate a shadow, then it wasn't very clear or effective. Saying "your camera is your shadow" is also a bit obtuse. Just because something is a constant companion, doesn't imply that it does everythign that you do, like the notion of a person as a shadow implies. There were similar ideas expressed during this challenge that captured this concept more effectively....

02/10/2004 08:39:01 PM · #15
i dont think it's bad at all. once i get past the heavy handed negative effect, i start to see it's a very detailed and moody image. not as supra-literal 'for the challenge' as some, but it has its own appeal.

Originally posted by soup:

its a cliche - like your 6 year old might not do everything you do - but never the less may be refered to as your shadow... i knew no one would get it - it isn't a bad photo overall in my mind, and given the camera settings... is all i was trying to say - the votes dont really bother me - i could have been blunt myself and titled it 'my camera is my shadow because it is with me all the time'... but opted to leave it to the viewer to try to figure it out... to each his own.

i'm not the least bit frustrated with anything but the cold outside.

Originally posted by dsa157:

At the risk of seeming rude, I'm going to be blunt with you soup. This picture deserved the low scores that it got. The use of a negative image didn't convey anything challenge related or add anything aesthetic value , in my opinion, to the shot. If you wanted to use the negative look to illustrate a shadow, then it wasn't very clear or effective. Saying "your camera is your shadow" is also a bit obtuse. Just because something is a constant companion, doesn't imply that it does everythign that you do, like the notion of a person as a shadow implies. There were similar ideas expressed during this challenge that captured this concept more effectively....

02/10/2004 09:17:28 PM · #16
Originally posted by magnetic9999:

this is my favorite camera shake pic : P



I took it in Madrid, Spain last October.


I like it! That's what I meant by bold too, as my son would take, including people in the shot (not just pretty lights like the one I posted.)
02/10/2004 09:22:09 PM · #17
How are challenges chosen anyway? Is it just D&L that decide? What's the process?
02/10/2004 09:56:39 PM · #18
Originally posted by Rooster:

How are challenges chosen anyway? Is it just D&L that decide? What's the process?

Basically, that's it. SC members help harvest challenge suggestions from the forums and write them up so they are ready to use, but only D+L actually program the challenge topics into the site.
02/10/2004 10:01:37 PM · #19
thanks ;}

Originally posted by magnetic9999:

i dont think it's bad at all. once i get past the heavy handed negative effect, i start to see it's a very detailed and moody image. not as supra-literal 'for the challenge' as some, but it has its own appeal.

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