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11/13/2009 11:53:39 AM · #1 |
Art Snobs:
yeah, you know who you are, the people with double masters degrees in art (kind of a farce really) who feel that they need to critique EVERYTHING creative they see. Sometimes people don't want an in depth critique, sometimes they just want to post an image to see how it does. Use discretion in your comments please, otherwise it just leaves confusion to the creator and makes you look like a nit-picky art snob. |
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11/13/2009 11:54:20 AM · #2 |
| Another one of these threads? C'monnnnn. |
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11/13/2009 11:56:50 AM · #3 |
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11/13/2009 12:03:19 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
Art Snobs:
yeah, you know who you are, the people with double masters degrees in art (kind of a farce really) who feel that they need to critique EVERYTHING creative they see. Sometimes people don't want an in depth critique, sometimes they just want to post an image to see how it does. Use discretion in your comments please, otherwise it just leaves confusion to the creator and makes you look like a nit-picky art snob. |
But, but.... How is your hypothetical "art snob" to *know* which images were posted "just to see how they do"? Wouldn't it make more sense to advise the *posters* to ignore unwanted feedback (the "grin and bear it" school of life) than take the *critics* to task for being who they are (the "do it my way or I'll pee in your cheerios" school of life)?
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11/13/2009 12:06:15 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
Art Snobs:
yeah, you know who you are, the people with double masters degrees in art (kind of a farce really) who feel that they need to critique EVERYTHING creative they see. Sometimes people don't want an in depth critique, sometimes they just want to post an image to see how it does. Use discretion in your comments please, otherwise it just leaves confusion to the creator and makes you look like a nit-picky art snob. |
As a self-avowed art snob, albeit without the farcical double masters degree, I feel you're barking up the wrong tree. Go after all those "Fantastic!"s and "Ten!!"s and "Genius!"s that you're getting on your pics. That'll show those suck-ups.
Message edited by author 2009-11-13 12:06:55. |
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11/13/2009 12:10:40 PM · #6 |
I'm not sure if your response could be more confusing but I think I got the gist of it.
No, seriously, I'm not trying to be a troll here. I just get tired of art snobs no matter what, here on DPC, at the gallery, wherever.
I understand your point though, I usually put some sort of sentence within the description saying that I know it's not the best but I wanted to see how it would do... then some person takes their precious time to inform me of the strengths and weaknesses of an image I don't really care about. I guess it just peeves me a little.
Then, of course, when I do want an in depth crit all I get is useless BS from some photoshop guru.
Perhaps this thread was just a vent for my frustration over the artist-mentality. I'm an artist, I have an art degree (probably not the best fiscal choice of mine), but it's the stuffy-headed-gallery-minded art snobs that troll about that piss me off.
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11/13/2009 12:13:06 PM · #7 |
Well said Louis. Indeed.
I think, in my limited experience here, I've found somewhat of a conundrum. When i click on the button that says I want an in depth critique, all I get is unhelpful BS. And when I load an image I care not about I seem to get an 'in depth crit.'
It makes me question a lot of the users on this site. |
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11/13/2009 12:13:43 PM · #8 |
| Does this mean you do not want comments even if I give you a 1, thank you this really let's me off the hook having to leave comments, oh ya I have no degree so I can leave comments, but wait how could I know what I am talking about so I can not leave a comment, I am so confused....:P |
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11/13/2009 12:13:49 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
...then some person takes their precious time to inform me of the strengths and weaknesses of an image I don't really care about. |
And how, dear Sir, are the plebs to know what images you do and do not care about? And you do realize that critique, and the resultant education through it, is the raison d'être of the site, do you not?
(PS: the purple prose is definitely for your benefit. I know you love that sort of stuff.) |
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11/13/2009 12:16:19 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
Then, of course, when I do want an in depth crit all I get is useless BS from some photoshop guru. |
Oh, I got it! Even when I *DO* figure out that you actually DO want critique on a particular image, the critiques I'm giving aren't the kind of critiques you want anyway?
Come on man, I realize this is a rant, but LISTEN to yourself willya?
R.
Message edited by author 2009-11-13 12:17:29. |
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11/13/2009 12:18:02 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
...then some person takes their precious time to inform me of the strengths and weaknesses of an image I don't really care about. |
Originally posted by Louis:
And how, dear Sir, are the plebs to know what images you do and do not care about? And you do realize that critique, and the resultant education through it, is the raison d'être of the site, do you not?
(PS: the purple prose is definitely for your benefit. I know you love that sort of stuff.) |
I'd be willing to bet his plebian tastes don't even run to raisins at all......8>)
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11/13/2009 12:18:35 PM · #12 |
Don't read the comments. No one is forcing you to. I personally prefer in depth critiques to fluff comments like "Nice picture". Keep in mind that if someone is taking the time to write those long winded critiques its not because they are trying to be snobbish. Its because they are trying to help. And keep in mind that it is only their opinion. Take it or leave it.
Message edited by author 2009-11-13 12:20:29. |
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11/13/2009 12:19:06 PM · #13 |
It's so refreshing to have a thread biching about no comments running concurrently with one that bitches about getting comments, don't you think?
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11/13/2009 12:20:18 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
some person takes their precious time to inform me of the strengths and weaknesses of an image I don't really care about. |
I'm confused. Wouldn't the person who doesn't want the opinions of others BE the art snob?
Message edited by author 2009-11-13 12:20:40. |
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11/13/2009 12:22:58 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
some person takes their precious time to inform me of the strengths and weaknesses of an image I don't really care about. |
Originally posted by scalvert:
I'm confused. Wouldn't the person who doesn't want the opinions of others BE the art snob? |
You just called someone a name!
I'm tellin' MOM!!!!
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11/13/2009 12:23:37 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
Well said Louis. Indeed.
When i click on the button that says I want an in depth critique, all I get is unhelpful BS. And when I load an image I care not about I seem to get an 'in depth crit.'
It makes me question a lot of the users on this site. |
You do know that clicking that button is just about your image being put forward into the Critique Club queue and that whether you've ticked that or not is not visible to those of us who aren't critique club reviewer.... don't you? |
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11/13/2009 12:23:40 PM · #17 |
I was speaking generally. ;-P
If an artist places a work on display, but doesn't want any criticism of it, wouldn't he/she be an art snob by definition?
Message edited by author 2009-11-13 12:26:33. |
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11/13/2009 12:23:51 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
It's so refreshing to have a thread biching about no comments running concurrently with one that bitches about getting comments, don't you think? |
It's definitely more amusing than listening to people get unreasonably emotional about watermarks. |
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11/13/2009 12:26:14 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
It's so refreshing to have a thread bitching about no comments running concurrently with one that bitches about getting comments, don't you think? |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
It's definitely more amusing than listening to people get unreasonably emotional about watermarks. |
Yeah.....I don't get that.
It's just low res pics in an online photo contest site, this ain't the Louvre.....
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11/13/2009 12:30:18 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
It's so refreshing to have a thread bitching about no comments running concurrently with one that bitches about getting comments, don't you think? |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
It's definitely more amusing than listening to people get unreasonably emotional about watermarks. |
Yeah.....I don't get that.
It's just low res pics in an online photo contest site, this ain't the Louvre..... |
Oh the irony. |
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11/13/2009 12:33:40 PM · #21 |
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11/13/2009 12:33:42 PM · #22 |
| More art snob comments would be wonderful. Anything to balance out the literalist technical orthodoxy and the pedantic kneejerk rulemongers ;-) |
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11/13/2009 12:35:12 PM · #23 |
So really what you're saying is that the people who leave comments that are trying to explain the scores they gave are "art snobs". Honestly that just makes me think that you are unwilling to accept criticism or simply do not understand the terminology being used. Instead of taking time to try to understand another's point of view, you give them a title you can dismiss as a inferior person and post this thread to attack the aforementioned "snobs." Is that about right?
Message edited by author 2009-11-13 12:36:06. |
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11/13/2009 12:37:58 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by skewsme:
More art snob comments would be wonderful. Anything to balance out the literalist technical orthodoxy and the pedantic kneejerk rulemongers ;-) |
The second sentence is a fragment, and thus not actually a sentence. The proper forms for the vernacular terms you cite are hyphenated: "knee-jerk", "rule-mongers", although in the case of the second, no hyphen is preferred: "rule mongers" (cf. "fish mongers").
Message edited by author 2009-11-13 12:39:03. |
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11/13/2009 12:39:20 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by skewsme:
More art snob comments would be wonderful. Anything to balance out the literalist technical orthodoxy and the pedantic kneejerk rulemongers ;-) |
The second sentence is a fragment, and thus not actually a sentence. The proper forms for the vernacular terms you cite are hyphenated: "knee-jerk", "rule-mongers", although in the case of the second, no hyphen is preferred: "rule mongers". |
I wish there was a "like" button for DPC posts :D |
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