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10/13/2009 07:47:23 PM · #76 |
I wasn't refering to money equaling talent.
Originally posted by ambaker:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
It is kind of hard to take your oppinion as a fine example when you say you are not accomplished enough to purchase his 250 dollar video, however you have a 5D Mark II in your camera bag. lol
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I have a 40D in mine, and don't do it justice either. Money doesn't equal talent.... Gawd knows I've tried... ;-) |
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10/13/2009 07:51:00 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Also - im insanely jealous, what photographer wouldn't be? |
A self-confident one? I have never felt a shred of jealousy over Joey, for example. But some would say that's easy for me, because I have had my day in the sun, so to speak. But even at my brightest, I was never a Joey :-)
R. |
Jealousy isn't the right word. I guess jealousy would imply something negative. How about envious? I mean I would love to be in his position, just not there yet, but don't think that he shouldn't be there either or anything. Hes earned it. |
That's better :-)
R. |
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10/13/2009 07:56:01 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by Trumpeteer4:
Man, that would be so cool to be in his shoes. His portfolio is just getting better and better. |
Looking at your images, you seem to have some pretty strong fundamentals well in advance of some more "seasoned" contributors on this site. The fact that you are 18 also gives you a tremendous foot up over us 40 sumthin guys who have too much "deprogramming" to do.
In other words, you have yet to step into your own shoes. Just make sure to choose the ones that fit well and can get you where you want to go.
Good luck!
Message edited by author 2009-10-13 19:59:00. |
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10/13/2009 09:17:37 PM · #79 |
It's a shame to see people are already sharing the previous DVD online (for free).
Edit: And before anyone asks, I found that via an innocent Google search!
Edit: Removed link
Message edited by author 2009-10-14 12:43:54. |
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10/13/2009 09:41:44 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by samchad:
It's a shame to see people are already the previous DVD online (for free).
Edit: And before anyone asks, I found that via an innocent Google search! |
Still bad form IMO to post the link...
Message edited by author 2009-10-13 21:42:38.
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10/13/2009 10:39:23 PM · #81 |
| I saw his first dvd and it does contain information i haven't seen anywhere else online with regards to post-processing. Some sites come close and touch on the style but I looked and looked online for the 'joey look' and the only way to categorically know is in the dvd, and the technique on the dvd is different to what people think it is. |
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10/13/2009 11:36:40 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Hopefully he will fare better in the long run than Annie did |
I don't think Joey will be ordering many baby diaries from Europe with 800 bux custom shipping bills. He seems to have firm grasp on economic reality and tries to convey it even in his free previews. "Buying new equipment will not improve your photography". Good luck to him as usual, even thought I couldn't dream of affording his product. |
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10/13/2009 11:41:24 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by george917:
Too bad he's been inactive here (on the forums) for three months, last commented on an image a year ago, and last submitted an image 2½ years ago. |
When I started work in electronics it was my dream job. A hobby I'd enjoyed since age seven. After a few years working in the field I had less, and less interest in it as a hobby. I branched out into other things. Joey probably did too. And..... a business requires your blood, sweat, tears, heart, and soul. Doesn't leave much time for anything else when you're a hungry young buck trying to make a name. |
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10/25/2009 02:47:39 PM · #84 |
The 'original' DVD was $25 and it was discussed in this forum thread , you may enjoy reading through it.
I bought it and learned A WHOLE LOT form it, not about how to use photoshop or its various tools but about the way he sees things and how he chooses and uses the tools to achieve what he wants as an end result. As a bonus, the dvd had a very funny introduction featuring  Strikeslip
Those who think that the price he set for his new dvd's is excessive do not understand the concept of free market, I am sure the price would be lower if he wasn't selling them for what he is asking. I am also sure that those that are buying it for the asking price are not looking for a 'how to use photoshop' guide, you can get that for free from many sources, what he will teach you is how to use photoshop to achieve what he achieves in processing.
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10/25/2009 03:45:59 PM · #85 |
i bought sessions and really liked it.
first, he's a great photog with an interesting vision and creative way of translating that vision into his work.
second, he had a few great tips that i think will greatly enhance my own work.
third, watching those videos made me feel much more confident in my own work and vision. i don't want to be like joey but taking some of his tips and building them into my photography will only make me better, which is exactly what i was looking for.
the confidence boost alone was worth the price.
great cust. service, too, as he emailed me to make sure everything was okay and i was able to access it. he's a great guy and i'm glad for his success.
now, i have to work on getting a little success of my own. :) |
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10/25/2009 08:43:51 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
I am sure the price would be lower if he wasn't selling them for what he is asking. |
I am absolutely, positively convinced of that too. ;-) |
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10/25/2009 09:03:40 PM · #87 |
After purchasing his DVDs (and learning a TON!!! - not only of setups, but of insight as well) and attending his workshop in Calgary, I can't do anything but shout kudos to Joey for doing "his thing" and doing it well. He knows how to create, present, and sell his work. He's certainly a master at the first two (and becoming a master at the last). I've learned so much from him & DPC over the last few years and couldn't imagine a more humble, more deserving, more creative individual to receive some serious accolades.
Good for you Joey! Keep being true to yourself and to your dream! More power to you!
Jimmy
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10/29/2009 05:48:47 AM · #88 |
| This just got a rundown over at Strobist if you're wondering about details and how it compares to some other resources. |
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10/30/2009 12:21:30 PM · #89 |
Just bought myself an early Christmas present. Can't wait to watch it.
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10/31/2009 06:25:34 AM · #90 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
There is no argument that what Joey "does" is available through the web or other resources. Just as what a lawyer or doctor "does" is available as well. The value is in the "inspirational" aspect of witnessing someone who has applied this "accessible" knowledge and made use of it to create an extraordinary adventure out of it.
All of the words you can ever need are available in a dictionary. Only a few people know how to put them together to and create a literary wonder. All of the colors you can imagine can be applied to a canvass but only a few masters can create a composition worthy of mention.
It is an unfortunate aspect of human nature that we seek a perverse self validation by trivializing the success of others when we really should be looking at them as leaders in their craft. Action is what has allowed him the joy he is experiencing and pride is the inaction that cripples those who merely sit back and watch with a cynical eye. |
Well said. VERY well said.
Joey's price point is none of my business - I would no more question it than I would question a million business owners' choices about their pricing structures. I might, myself, hold an opinion on whether the price is reasonable or perhaps, whether the price is one I'd consider paying. But it's none of my business to say it's "too high" or "too low". I don't even know what his sales strategy is - is he aiming to sell high volume, low cost or low volume, high cost or some specific level in between? It's completely up to him and I don't feel any need to comment.
I'm THRILLED for him that he's doing so well. I think he's talented, hard-working, extremely personable and I'm utterly chuffed for him that he has found such success. May he continue to go from strength to strength.
Message edited by author 2009-10-31 06:25:49.
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10/31/2009 07:57:07 AM · #91 |
Originally posted by Simms:
No doubt it will be on the torrent sites soon... :/ |
Torrent sites? What's that? /me rolls eyes...
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11/01/2009 12:22:10 PM · #92 |
Sorry, but what the hell is this "Our Little Joey" thing?
He's not ours. I find it almost belittling to assume otherwise.
I'm wondering why the topic title wasn't just "Congratulations Joey L" instead of pretending like the people here had something to do with his success.
That's it. |
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11/01/2009 12:50:11 PM · #93 |
Joey's DVD is great! And if you don't believe me you can check out my detailed review HERE.
And for those who complained that he's not on DPC much.. neither am I and that's BECAUSE of DPC! DPC fueled my passion and I love being so busy as a pro photographer that I can barely make the time to visit. :)
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11/01/2009 05:04:44 PM · #94 |
Originally posted by kosmikkreeper:
Joey's DVD is great! And if you don't believe me you can check out my detailed review HERE.
And for those who complained that he's not on DPC much.. neither am I and that's BECAUSE of DPC! DPC fueled my passion and I love being so busy as a pro photographer that I can barely make the time to visit. :) |
You paid for his DVD? I'm sure I could have spent that $$$ a little better. |
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11/01/2009 05:43:28 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
You paid for his DVD? I'm sure I could have spent that $$$ a little better. |
Like those disposable table-top ads that cell phone stores buy for malls and restaurants?
To each his own, Dirt. |
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11/01/2009 05:52:01 PM · #96 |
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11/01/2009 07:34:07 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by kosmikkreeper:
Joey's DVD is great! And if you don't believe me you can check out my detailed review HERE.
And for those who complained that he's not on DPC much.. neither am I and that's BECAUSE of DPC! DPC fueled my passion and I love being so busy as a pro photographer that I can barely make the time to visit. :) |
Good to see you are still hanging around a bit though Yanik! Im definitely giving Joey's DVD more thought now, definitely going to read your review, thanks for sharing.
-dave
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11/01/2009 09:12:53 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by fldave:
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
You paid for his DVD? I'm sure I could have spent that $$$ a little better. |
Like those disposable table-top ads that cell phone stores buy for malls and restaurants?
To each his own, Dirt. |
Except for my table ad will advertise my business for 2 years 365 days a year in a restaurant that generates more than 3,000 receipts a week and hopefully get me more business than a DVD.
I'm sure Joey teaches you about 2% of everything you need to know to produce a shot like his but hey, I guess we all have our sucker points. For some strange reason I think mine is a better investment.
I hope he teaches you how to save money on a plane ticket for you and 4+ friends to fly to some 3rd world country to take these amazing shots.
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11/01/2009 09:31:55 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
For some strange reason I think mine is a better investment. |
And I truly hope it is. Everyone has different wants and needs... you need marketing, others want education, others need equipment. So why bash someone because their needs differ from yours?
On the other hand, Joey now has lots of gear, he is now the educator, and with all the word-of-mouth buzz, he is getting some great shoots (and paychecks) so he likely isn't paying for table-top advertising. Like I said, to each his own. |
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11/01/2009 09:50:09 PM · #100 |
so many comments =)
I got his first dvd and it truely was helpful to me... I pop it in from time to time and learn something new each time...
$250 is lots of money, but from watching the first one, i'm sure it's well worth it =)
and he is selling them... apparently lots of them =)
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