My 'long comment series' votes - scrubbed?

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

10/08/2009 04:41:26 AM · #1

Originally posted by paulbtlw:
You have rated 80 of 400 images (20%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 74 images (19%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 7.0250.

I thought there was some truly exceptional work.

I'm feeling a bit silly now. Having spent a lot of time looking at these images and offering some very considered scores, it seems my votes have been scrubbed. I voted on enough for them to qualify, my bar turned blue. Yes, my average was unusually high but I thought scrubbing was to get rid of troll and anti-troll voting. I think I offered a strong rationale for all of the scores I offered.

I can still see the votes I gave by ordering 'by my vote' but I get no red bars for any of the images I have checked.

I don't think I've been hit by commenting on DQs - I did self-DQ (because I uploaded the wrong (but perfectly legal) image), does that invalidate my votes?

Given that I invested about 10-12 hours looking, thinking, commenting and voting, I feel a little robbed.

Can anybody shed some light on this for me?

Thanks

Paul

Covert_Oddity

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

10/08/2009 04:47:11 AM · #2

I can't speak for the votes, but I really appreciated the long comment I got from you on my FS image. The vote wouldn't make a huge difference overall, but the comment does and it stays, so don't feel too bad!

SaraR

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

10/08/2009 05:02:09 AM · #3

I would echo what

Covert_Oddityhas said. Your comment made a big difference to me, and was hugely appreciated.

Bugzeye

Fisher Price Kid-Tough Digital

10/08/2009 05:04:00 AM · #4

if you voted on exactly 20% of the images and a couple of them got DQ'd or self DQd such as your own. Then it would automatically change the percentage to a different number, However that number should go up if there are less images in the challenge. Unless the DQ's were images you voted on, Hmmm You should send in a ticket and ask about it. Seems like an unfair glitch in the system not only to the voter but to the person who may have lost a few spots if you gave them a nice score and it got scrubbed.

Message edited by author 2009-10-08 05:05:57.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

10/08/2009 05:16:59 AM · #5

I would echo it may be a glitch in the matrix if one or two of the ones you voted were dropped. Perhaps in the future vote 21% to be sure? Nevertheless, I, too, am very grateful for your thoughtful and considered comment on mine. It is nice to see someone spend more than a second or two on the photographs. Your efforts are very much appreciated!

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

10/08/2009 05:24:50 AM · #6

Originally posted by Bugzeye:

Seems like an unfair glitch in the system not only to the voter but to the person who may have lost a few spots if you gave them a nice score and it got scrubbed.

Indeed! To give one example

senor_kasper would have gone up 11 places with my 10 vote for this hugely under-rated shot:

I was so aware that I said that I had given him a 10 in my comments - I know I'd feel a bit disappointed if I were him and found that I didn't have any 10s I might even feel a little misled.

[I've just generated a ticket so we'll see what they say]

Message edited by author 2009-10-08 05:31:28.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

10/08/2009 05:31:22 AM · #7

By the way, did you post your preferred edit of your self-dq'd Free Study anywhere?

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

10/08/2009 05:33:09 AM · #8

Originally posted by Melethia:

By the way, did you post your preferred edit of your self-dq'd Free Study anywhere?

I've just uploaded it to the outtakes forum.

Message edited by author 2009-10-08 05:49:56.

Hipychik

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

10/08/2009 05:33:19 AM · #9

I really appreciated your comment too! It made me feel better with the score I got! Not that it was really low, I just thought it would score higher.

ErikV

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

10/08/2009 06:21:55 AM · #10

Originally posted by Bugzeye:

Bugzeye is correct. If any of the images you voted on were self DQ'd or DQ'd, then you slip below 20% and indeed get scrubbed.
-- As voted on: 80/400 = 20%
-- With one DQ of an image you voted on: 79/399 = 19.799%
Looking at the final number of entries on the results page at the moment, there were 399 at the end rather than 400 (actually there were 401 entries and 2 DQ's, but one of the DQs was yours, and so would presumably not have been a factor for your voting statistics). Thus it appears you cut it too close.

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

10/08/2009 06:32:14 AM · #11

Originally posted by ErikV:

Originally posted by Bugzeye:
if you voted on exactly 20% of the images and a couple of them got DQ'd or self DQd such as your own. Then it would automatically change the percentage to a different number, However that number should go up if there are less images in the challenge. Unless the DQ's were images you voted on, Hmmm

Bugzeye is correct. If any of the images you voted on were self DQ'd or DQ'd, then you slip below 20% and indeed get scrubbed.
-- As voted on: 80/400 = 20%
-- With one DQ of an image you voted on: 79/399 = 19.799%
Looking at the final number of entries on the results page at the moment, there were 399 at the end rather than 400 (actually there were 401 entries and 2 DQ's, but one of the DQs was yours, and so would presumably not have been a factor for your voting statistics). Thus it appears you cut it too close.

But none of my votes were given to a DQ'd image - my percentage should actually go up....shouldn't it? It's actually 80/399= 20.05%

ErikV

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

10/08/2009 07:14:23 AM · #12

Originally posted by paulbtlw:

Originally posted by ErikV:

Originally posted by Bugzeye:
if you voted on exactly 20% of the images and a couple of them got DQ'd or self DQd such as your own. Then it would automatically change the percentage to a different number, However that number should go up if there are less images in the challenge. Unless the DQ's were images you voted on, Hmmm

Bugzeye is correct. If any of the images you voted on were self DQ'd or DQ'd, then you slip below 20% and indeed get scrubbed.
-- As voted on: 80/400 = 20%
-- With one DQ of an image you voted on: 79/399 = 19.799%
Looking at the final number of entries on the results page at the moment, there were 399 at the end rather than 400 (actually there were 401 entries and 2 DQ's, but one of the DQs was yours, and so would presumably not have been a factor for your voting statistics). Thus it appears you cut it too close.

But none of my votes were given to a DQ'd image - my percentage should actually go up....shouldn't it? It's actually 80/399= 20.05%

Agreed!!!

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

10/08/2009 08:36:24 AM · #13

It's rare that I vote only 20%, usually vote on all entries, however if I am only doing 20% I'll vote on 5 or 6 more than needed to avoid this situation.

Yo_Spiff

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

10/08/2009 08:52:34 AM · #14

It is possible that your votes were counted. I have noticed several occasions when I know my votes were included, but the red bar did not get displayed for my vote. For whatever reason, it did not get that info pulled from the database along with the image.

KarenNfld

10/08/2009 09:10:29 AM · #15

Did you give all 10's (or close to that)? I remember one challenge where I stated that I was going to give all 10's. I was told by SC that if I did that they would all be scrubbed. Maybe that's why they're gone. Sucks to have all your comments dissapear, though.

signal2noise

Leica M9

Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux M MF - Chrome

10/08/2009 09:25:39 AM · #16

Greatly appreciate the comment. They're so rare these days.

snaffles

Nikon D7100

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

10/08/2009 10:06:19 AM · #17

Ditto here. Very rare to get a comment these days, let alone such a well-thought out one. Greatly appreciated!

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

10/08/2009 10:34:34 AM · #18

Originally posted by KarenNfld:

The comments stayed so that's fine.... It is probably by fault. Just got around to adding all my scores up:

7 X 10
8 X 9
13 X 8
21 X 7
16 X 6
8 X 5
1 X 4
3 X 3

Which is only 77! I wonder whether I lost some scores when I went back to correct some of my bad spelling - is that possible?

Paul

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

10/08/2009 01:02:41 PM · #19

Well, it appears I brought it all on myself. I DID vote on 80 but because there were 401 to begin with, I actually fell just under 20%, even there were only 400 to vote on (since I self DQ'd!).

Not sure why my voting bar turned blue but there you go.

Apologies to those people who suffered score reductions. I'll ensure I give myself a bigger buffer next time.

Paul

rrdjserv

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

10/08/2009 03:59:33 PM · #20

Interesting to note that the top 9 out of 10 winners were landscapes.

franktheyank

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

10/08/2009 04:06:19 PM · #21

Paul,
I want to thank you for your thoughtful comment on my FS entry. I know it took alot of time to do.

davidw

Canon EOS R6