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08/06/2009 08:42:36 PM · #1 |
Okay, I'm curious on this one. As I got to voting on the free study this month. I realized that there were over 400 entries. In order to give a quality vote on these entries, I decided to only vote on the first 150 of them, and comment on those 150. Now, in all fairness, I only voted and commented on the first 150 I saw in the order that they appeared. Well actually, I've only commented on 120 of them, I have to finish the other 30, but the question of mine is...
Would you rather have a lower number of votes, but have those people really stop, and absorb your shot, leading to more comments.... or.... would you rather have more speed voters and a higher vote count???
I'm just curious, because I could have easily breezed through the 400 entries, but instead, I chose to rate the first 150 and give them all a serious look. Like I said, I have commented on 120 of them, and have to finish the last 30, but my point is, would you rather have quality or quantity or vice versa??? |
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08/06/2009 08:48:04 PM · #2 |
Continue what you are doing. Commenting is important and people will appreciate it. Especially when you are the only one to take the time to explain why their masterpiece is bombing.
I try to do the same, though I must admit my commenting has slowed a little from what it used to be. Depends on available time. I try to concentrate my commenting on the 4's and 5's I give. The fantastic shots will get plenty of other comments. My current stats for the FS is 24% voted on and 5% commented, for about a 5:1 vote/comment ratio. You know, if everyone commented on 10% of their votes, there would be very few complaints about lack of comments. |
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08/06/2009 08:53:26 PM · #3 |
| I agree with Yo_Spiff, I think you should continue doing what you are doing. Typically, there are 120-150 votes in a free study, but I typically only get 5-10 comments. It tells me that 90% of voters are likely speed voting. So,.... the speed voters get plenty of representation, and a thoughtful vote and comment is very much appreciated. |
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08/06/2009 09:12:33 PM · #4 |
| I kinda disagree. If your'll only seeing the first 150 shots and voting your most likely to miss a lot of outstanding shots which deserve a vote. It kind of makes the 150 votes meaning less. The commenting is cool. If this makes any sense. |
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08/06/2009 09:27:42 PM · #5 |
| I would rather people feel comfortable voting and commenting HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT, and not worrying about what other people think. |
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08/06/2009 09:30:14 PM · #6 |
| I failed to mention in my previous response, that when you comment, especially on the midrange votes, you are learning more yourself. By making yourself analyze why you do or do not like a given photo, you are learning things you will be able to apply to your own photography. So I guess it depends on your reasons for being here. If you are here to unearth the gems, then fly through the voting and hit them all, keeping your finger over the 5 key. If you want to learn something, then take spend more time on fewer images. *Your mileage may vary* |
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08/06/2009 09:30:31 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I would rather people feel comfortable voting and commenting HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT, and not worrying about what other people think. |
here-hear!! |
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08/06/2009 09:32:30 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I would rather people feel comfortable voting and commenting HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT, and not worrying about what other people think. |
That's fine, once you know how you prefer to do it. Ashley is not sure of what he prefers and is soliciting input so he can make up his own mind. |
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08/06/2009 10:01:27 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I would rather people feel comfortable voting and commenting HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT, and not worrying about what other people think. |
That's fine, once you know how you prefer to do it. Ashley is not sure of what he prefers and is soliciting input so he can make up his own mind. |
I think he's perfectly aware of what he prefers, as he has already DONE it. :) |
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08/06/2009 10:05:46 PM · #10 |
I think what you're doing is great! Thoughtful comments are always appreciated.
Not everyone has time to vote on all entries, but since the entries are presented in random order, my feel is that over all it balances out.
Over time, your method is about as fair to everyone, depending on your available time & energy, as you will get - but most of all, it is what is comfortable and doable for you.
However, if you are a troll, and give out a high score of 3, maybe people would prefer you NOT voting on their images! (joke...weak joke, but joke...)
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08/06/2009 10:20:57 PM · #11 |
Personally, I prefer comments to votes. Votes are very important to the whole process, but I think you can get a lot more out of a comment. A score of one or even of 10 is meaningless unless you know what you excelled with. Over time, of course, you can guess and experiment what works for the DPC audience, but you get a much faster and accurate portrayal from comments. This is especially true of comments like
"I normally hate _______ pictures but yours is good beacuse_____" and "Your idea is brilliant but _________"
I think your approach is great. |
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08/06/2009 10:22:04 PM · #12 |
| Keep on doing just that. I wish I would get people to stop and look at my photos and tell me why or why not they like them instead of glancing at the shot, voting, and moving on. If you never see the photo, that's fine but if you see it but zoom by it, it frustrates me. |
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08/07/2009 09:53:00 AM · #13 |
I think Spiff is totally right on with what he said about commenting. I think I have learned allot from commenting, so it benefits me as much as the photos owner. My question was actually spawned from a disscusion my wife and I had. She said she would rather have more votes and I said I'd rather have more comments. Although she doesn't participate on here, that got me thinking, how many people would rather have more votes than comments? I was also curious how many other people have been voting the way I have, because its really a daunting task to try to comment on 400+ photos. I'm glad to see most people would rather have comments, because as Spiff said, they are mutually beneficial...
As far as trolls go, I wouldn't mind trolls so much if they'd comment..Troll comments would be hilarious...
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08/07/2009 10:07:30 AM · #14 |
| My freestudy entry has been floating back and forth across a 6, with 2 comments, but my "Life & Death" entry which came in at a 5.64, got 13 comments in the challenge. Guess which one I consider a more successful entry? |
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08/07/2009 11:44:22 AM · #15 |
I almost always get a bigger kick from the comments on me entries than from their score. Some of the best/meanining full comments were on entries that finished in the middle/bottom of the pack.
Heck the sole comment on my lowest scoring entry was a legendary  K10DGuy comment. :) |
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08/07/2009 08:53:18 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Five_Seat:
I almost always get a bigger kick from the comments on me entries than from their score. Some of the best/meanining full comments were on entries that finished in the middle/bottom of the pack.
Heck the sole comment on my lowest scoring entry was a legendary K10DGuy comment. :) |
That is a pretty legendary comment lol.
I agree, too, that troll comments could be pretty funny. I think they'd make me want to ask a lot of questions though.
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