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12/15/2003 10:18:28 AM · #1 |
I am curious to see what people thought was so much better about this shot:
Than this one:
I'm certainly not criticizing the outcome, or rooting for one over the other, or anything like that. I just think it's interesting that two shots that, in my opinion, are very similar yet finished 14 places apart.
Oddly, while I was voting these two images came up back to back, and I gave them both a 9 -- I think they're both awesome!
I'm just curious to see if anyone can quantify what made one earn a ribbon while the other came in 16th?
Message edited by author 2003-12-15 10:19:26. |
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12/15/2003 10:38:57 AM · #2 |
To be totally honest I rated the first (second place winner) a point higher than the other one. It wasnt a comparative vote and I dont even know which one came first while I was voting.
To me the tone is a lot more vivid in the first, the gradient background helped, it just gave off a great mood. The second one is certainly good, but it doesnt seem as 'finished' as the first. Hrm, hard to explain I guess. I guess the first one just had more 'wow' factor, the second was more 'that's pretty'.
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12/15/2003 10:44:46 AM · #3 |
By the scores they both did very well, of course there were alot of pix between 7.06 & 6.40!
I scored them one point apart, with scab-lab's leading. What made some of the difference for me was the capture of multiple small droplets formed as the main drop snapped loose. The main drop is still deformed into an oblate shape by the release. The Icy blue color also added a little something, IMO. Finally, I think the subtly identifiable background in scab-lab's shot, suggestive of the in-focus image in the drops, also adds some dimension.
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12/15/2003 10:45:27 AM · #4 |
Thanks for the thread Alan, as I am quite curious myself.
I had a few others that I didn't enter, would they have done better?
 
I actually figured that two such similar shots would be hurt in the voting equally, but that was not the case.
Message edited by author 2003-12-15 10:50:01.
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12/15/2003 10:55:21 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by TerryGee:
Thanks for the thread Alan, as I am quite curious myself. I had a few others that I didn't enter, would they have done better? I actually figured that two such similar shots would be hurt in the voting equally, but that was not the case. |
I think the one you entered was better. The color is better than the first outtake, but the crop was better than the other two. I'm not sure if you had added a slight tone to it that it would done better, but then it would have been too similar to scab-lab's maybe. Still, a good score and place either way.
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12/15/2003 11:13:54 AM · #6 |
Personally, I thought the submissions were both nice shots, but I didn't feel like they were about the "shape" per se, more about lighting and timing. (When I looked at other people's comments, they obviously disagreed with me.)
I think the one that got the ribbon was voted higher because of the 2 drops falling simultaneously. And maybe the richer colored background, as Moodville indicated. I'm not sure it would even have been a conscious decision on my part, but the colors give it "a feel".
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12/15/2003 12:21:26 PM · #7 |
I think the two drops won out bc there was two plus the icy blue BG added a little more to the shot.
Terry, I really like the bottom of your selections. I like the hint of the blue sky behind it. |
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12/15/2003 01:29:07 PM · #8 |
I think the colors, tones, and vertical horizon made for a better background on Scab's, and the captured moment of his drops were just slightling more eye-catching - there was a feeling of stopped motion, of captured action, while Terry's felt a bit more static.
But, when I was first viewing the results, the same thing came to my mind. I didn't get far in voting on this challenge, so I didn't rate either of these. But I wondered how much the presence of the two shots might have affected Terry's score a little. Now that I take a closer look, I think probably not - they both did well, and are both good, Scab's is just a bit more appealing. |
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12/15/2003 02:58:28 PM · #9 |
As a comparison.......
The darker with white border has more appeal than the lighter with black border.
Both photos capture the event of "melt". Boths photos are reasonably close in clarity. The darker one with the white border has a better composition, overall. Color I believe was the first distinguisher, with the border contrast being a silent second. |
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12/15/2003 03:07:50 PM · #10 |
| Good point. The white border did work really well. It lent to the cool, crisp feeling of the image. |
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12/15/2003 05:25:14 PM · #11 |
The colours/ contrasts are stronger in the 2nd place image. The shape is also simpler, with a less confused composition.
The other example diverges from the drop, while the 2nd place converges and moves the focus to the droplets. The gradient from dark to light further enhances that flow and movement in the image. |
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