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10/26/2008 12:12:15 AM · #151 |
Just for fun...
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10/26/2008 01:25:33 AM · #152 |
Nice shots all
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10/26/2008 04:16:21 PM · #153 |
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10/26/2008 05:43:09 PM · #154 |
Couldn't resist this one!
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10/26/2008 07:32:47 PM · #155 |
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10/26/2008 07:36:26 PM · #156 |
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10/27/2008 06:52:49 AM · #157 |
So, I went out 2 days to shoot for the Street challenge and forgot to enter anything. Funny. Anyway, over the next couple of days, I'll post several of the candidates that didn't make the entry. Here are some:

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10/27/2008 09:36:22 AM · #158 |
Sidewalk barbecue chef in the Bywater in New Orleans. The Bywater is an section of New Orleans on the edge of the French Quarter that is much like the old French Quarter used to be before it became an entertainment and tourist attraction.

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10/27/2008 10:09:28 AM · #159 |
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10/27/2008 10:27:37 AM · #160 |
Just when I think I'm starting to get caught up on comments, you guys go and post a whole 'nuther page worth! I have some I'll post later as well. And eventually I may catch up on comments! |
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10/27/2008 10:57:46 AM · #161 |
I'm with you on that Melethia.. I have some shots to post too... and lots of comments to make.. the challenge was fun to shoot... but I am not getting the eye I want yet... my shots are just not what I see ... if that makes sense. |
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10/27/2008 12:42:57 PM · #162 |
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10/27/2008 12:46:27 PM · #163 |
I'll try to answer that question when I post, Steve. As with my last post here, I wasn't so much as showing you a person or persons, as their interaction with the light at that moment. Sometimes I like lines and light and shadow. This may be on the edge of "street candids", I realize - we probably really should be focusing on the person/candid aspect, as well as a why. But I'll probably also still throw in shots now and then where the aesthetic is at least part of the reason I like it. :-)
But we also need to work on just getting the shots, and that's what a side challenge like this is good for. We probably need to be a bit more critical in some cases - point out ways or aspects of a shot that could be improved the next time (as opposed to dressing up with editing - to me that's secondary for this side challenge).
p.s. I purposely avoided shooting homeless people all week. For one thing, there just aren't that many around to shoot. For another, I just don't like doing it.
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10/27/2008 01:10:30 PM · #164 |
Street kids playing an old game.. I too will try to answer your question Steve and let me know if I have indeed answered it..anyone feel free to give their opinion as well please .... what struck me about this shot was the funky clothes of 2008 and the old time game.. when was hacky sack the rage?
Nostalgia on my part maybe - I treasure critical feedback as I struggle to develop a good eye for this type of photography. Do I over-process my shots? Not much grain in them and the film grain filter does little to give them a gritty feel - but then again I am not very talented in PS - any comments/tips are very appreciated.
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10/27/2008 01:21:15 PM · #165 |
Grain - to me it will occur naturally (ie noise) when you shoot in conditions that lend itself to such. Night, low light, very dull days, etc. I'm personally not a fan of adding it just to add it. That said, if a shot speaks to you as something that needs grain, by all means try adding it and see if you like it better! |
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10/27/2008 03:23:55 PM · #166 |
Originally posted by pawdrix: My great distaste for homeless photography has just quadrupled to an unbearable level. I'm toxic. The EPA's been calling me all day. |
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10/27/2008 03:43:50 PM · #167 |
A couple from me - the first is an "almost" - didn't quite catch it. But that happens a lot with street/candid stuff. You'll miss a lot more than you catch. I guess the point is keep shooting anyway. :-) The second is one of those rare instances where I prefer the color version.
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10/27/2008 06:06:17 PM · #168 |
Originally posted by ericwoo: Originally posted by pawdrix: My great distaste for homeless photography has just quadrupled to an unbearable level. I'm toxic. The EPA's been calling me all day. |
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Eddy's NOT Homeless.
He ain't pretty but he doesn't fit the bill. In fact, he lives at a Residence Hotel on 47th and 7th where I see him relaxing, chatting to neighbors. Super nice guy.
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10/27/2008 06:21:54 PM · #169 |
Originally posted by pawdrix: Originally posted by ericwoo: Originally posted by pawdrix: My great distaste for homeless photography has just quadrupled to an unbearable level. I'm toxic. The EPA's been calling me all day. |
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Eddy's NOT Homeless.
He ain't pretty but he doesn't fit the bill. In fact, he lives at a Residence Hotel on 47th and 7th where I every few days since I took the shot. Super nice guy. |
My bad, but, in my opinion, his image LOOKS like the very homeless images that you are blasting. Nice or not, and living in a residence 'hotel' or not, I think you may be prejudging people of simply taking homeless shots. I don't think that it was fair of you to blast photogs for their work when you post images that are very nearly the same. I'm also not trying to step into a pissing contest, but street photography isn't an easy thing to do for a lot of people. Believe it or not, the homeless population is as much a part of the street scene as buildings and asphalt. I think of it as a social mirror, no matter who ends up in that reflection. The homeless population is a reflection of parts of our society. I just think that blasting everyone in this forum was inconsiderate. People joined this side challenge to learn. Let's try encouragement rather than discouragement. My apologies for mistaking your image as jsut another homeless shot. See how easy that mistake can be?
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10/27/2008 07:46:25 PM · #170 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
My bad, but, in my opinion, his image LOOKS like the very homeless images that you are blasting. Nice or not, and living in a residence 'hotel' or not, I think you may be prejudging people of simply taking homeless shots. I don't think that it was fair of you to blast photogs for their work when you post images that are very nearly the same. I'm also not trying to step into a pissing contest, but street photography isn't an easy thing to do for a lot of people. Believe it or not, the homeless population is as much a part of the street scene as buildings and asphalt. I think of it as a social mirror, no matter who ends up in that reflection. The homeless population is a reflection of parts of our society. I just think that blasting everyone in this forum was inconsiderate. People joined this side challenge to learn. Let's try encouragement rather than discouragement. My apologies for mistaking your image as jsut another homeless shot. See how easy that mistake can be? |
My bad, as well and my apology. I thought I'd posted that in the pre Street Challenge discussion thread.
On topic though, please read this satire article on shooting the homeless and you might understand partly where I'm coming from.
If you do a Google search "photographing the homeless" you'll also see there are so many people calling into question the ethics of it and whether it's morally irresponsible OR simply preying on defenseless targets for a photo op.
I'll keep it light but after years of grappling over the topic online, in photo clubs and I myself having taken of advantage of these poor souls numerous times I feel strongly tied to the subject. They may be a great poignant reason to take their picture...sometimes it work but usually IMO just bad form. My only hope is that people give it long serious thought when shooting them AND most important ask yourself, why?
...but first, please read that funny article I posted. It makes the point quite well and with humor.
Cheers and again, I apologize.
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10/28/2008 02:03:38 AM · #171 |
Well, I'm getting killed in the challenge. I think I should stick to side challenges.
I think for me, the hardest part of the actual challenge this week was deciding which pic to enter. Clearly, even after consulting a friend, I picked the wrong one.
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10/28/2008 07:33:52 AM · #172 |
Originally posted by Melethia: Grain - to me it will occur naturally (ie noise) when you shoot in conditions that lend itself to such. Night, low light, very dull days, etc. I'm personally not a fan of adding it just to add it. That said, if a shot speaks to you as something that needs grain, by all means try adding it and see if you like it better! |
I like having a bit of graininess to some of my black and white shots and I normally then shoot at a higher ISO like ISO 800 to achieve that look. |
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10/28/2008 08:30:18 AM · #173 |
Enjoyed the article... I think the key phrase is: "gratuitous picture taking of the homeless" and "easy target"
If say, there is a wonderful light on a person and would make for a powerful image, I can see why a candid street photographer would not spare them whether they were homeless or just some person minding their own business. I don't think they should be exclusively off limits but, also shouldn't be a case of "here's a guy who hasn't had the luxury of a bath so 'click'". Same goes for the elderly I suppose.
I've been shooting for almost a year now and admittedly the first three months included gratuitous shots of the homeless. I have deleted the vast majority of them, but have kept some.
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10/28/2008 08:54:11 AM · #174 |
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10/28/2008 10:35:41 AM · #175 |
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