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 07/29/2008 07:54:24 PM · #26
Originally posted by Simms:
OK, testing the trial, imported some old landscape stuff in to test out the ND filter. Very impressed. This shot was pretty blown out in the sky - added ND filter and dropped it 3 stops, quite happy with the result. Then added an orange filter that covered the sky and looks firey!! Probably a bit overprocessed but just toying around you know.. Added a `local` vignette as well.



Pretty sweet Mark, the new vignette after crop rocks, that used to make me so mad now all is calm:)
 07/29/2008 08:10:59 PM · #27
Smart Collections is a great idea... for example, seeing all photos at ISO 800, or any other EXIF criteria to name but one usage.
 07/29/2008 08:21:00 PM · #28
I think I'll wait a month or two to see if any bugs come up. I love my Lightroom but I love my pics more.
 07/29/2008 08:29:14 PM · #29
Originally posted by DarkRider:
I think I'll wait a month or two to see if any bugs come up. I love my Lightroom but I love my pics more.


If anything, I would say it seems a tad slower..
 07/29/2008 09:43:19 PM · #30
I want to upgrade but I am in the middle of a wedding, if I upgrade will everything I've done thus far be wiped out or should I just wait until I'm done? I am one of those I gotta have it now people.
 07/29/2008 09:44:41 PM · #31
Originally posted by shutterfly:
I want to upgrade but I am in the middle of a wedding, if I upgrade will everything I've done thus far be wiped out or should I just wait until I'm done? I am one of those I gotta have it now people.


I upgraded and let it convert my 1.0 catalog. Everything seems to be there ... all of my adjustments, everything.

It did say that it wasn't going to convert my previews. No loss there. It just regenerates the previews the first time you go into the catalog.

07/29/2008 09:51:17 PM · #32
Originally posted by shutterfly:
I want to upgrade but I am in the middle of a wedding, if I upgrade will everything I've done thus far be wiped out or should I just wait until I'm done? I am one of those I gotta have it now people.


I would finish up with the current set... Upgrading in the middle seems like poking fingers (possibly the middle one) at fate to me :-)
 07/29/2008 10:01:05 PM · #33
EEEeeek!! Im scared!... Well... I ordered it and I have to wait until at least tomorrow anyway... better off, I would be up all night messing with it.
 07/29/2008 10:59:02 PM · #34
Does anyone know if you..
can you burn CD/DVDs direct now?
save and/or export slideshows?

07/29/2008 11:22:32 PM · #35
Here's a review:

//www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1217305295.html
 07/29/2008 11:25:00 PM · #36
Last night I had no time to play... tonight I've been playing with Local Adjustments. WOW! And get this... click on Auto Mask and wow, the power you have at your fingertips to adjust what you want and only what you want. It's astounding. Photoshop was never this easy.

However, everything comes with it's price. I've found that Lightroom slows down considerably when using Local Adjustments. So I figure, on wedding day (when I have only a short amount of time to put together a slide show for the reception), it's strictly "business as usual" with Lightroom. I can get more creative after the wedding is over and I have more time to play.


07/29/2008 11:46:18 PM · #37
I've been using the beta, first experience with LR, gonna buy this for sure.
 07/29/2008 11:47:02 PM · #38
I thought I'd post a before-and-after using Lightroom 2.0:

Using ACR Defaults

Using Lightroom 2.0

The Lightroom version of the image includes Local Adjustments for the sky and the rock, as well as original Lightroom 1.0 adjustments on specific colors within the image (you can, for example, pick yellow or orange and darken only that color without adjusting anything else).

07/30/2008 12:49:11 AM · #39
Originally posted by shutterfly:
I want to upgrade but I am in the middle of a wedding, if I upgrade will everything I've done thus far be wiped out or should I just wait until I'm done? I am one of those I gotta have it now people.


Are you on a MS-Winblows box or Mac? I can't speak for the Mac version, but the MS version actually leaves your 1.x software installed and available. When you convert your catalog(s), it creates a new .lrdata file, so the original 1.x catalog still exists and can be accessed by your 1.x install. So, in the worst case, you'd still have access to your 1.x catalog and software, just as though nothing ever happened with 2.0 (although of course you'd "lose" any work you did in 2.x when you go back and load your original 1.x catalog).

Clear as mud?

In other words, you can move forward into 2.0 and leave all your 1.x stuff "in place" and ready to use if you decide to fall back.
07/30/2008 01:17:54 PM · #40
Not to mention the fact that upgrading gives you a reason to "reorganize" your vast collection...

"Reorganization" now eighteen hours long and counting. :-)
 07/30/2008 01:50:33 PM · #41
Originally posted by Louis:
Not to mention the fact that upgrading gives you a reason to "reorganize" your vast collection...

"Reorganization" now eighteen hours long and counting. :-)


I am a Mac user... I think I will finish up with what I got and start fresh with the next one. Thanks for the info :-)
 07/30/2008 03:20:41 PM · #42
Originally posted by shutterfly:
I am a Mac user... I think I will finish up with what I got and start fresh with the next one. Thanks for the info :-)


The guy on Lightroom Killer Tips doesn't appear to think upgrading is such a big deal. Check out his Lightroom 2.0 FAQ.
 07/30/2008 03:25:04 PM · #43
Is there a reason to buy Lightroom in addtion to or instead of CS3?

Bought a EOS-40D a week ago, and am excited about playing with raw files.
 07/30/2008 03:30:58 PM · #44
Originally posted by dwterry:

The guy on Lightroom Killer Tips doesn't appear to think upgrading is such a big deal. Check out his Lightroom 2.0 FAQ.


One of the comments from that post:

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Actually there is a bug. When upgrading your catalog it sets off the “include on export” option on all keywordsâ€Â¦ Pretty annoying. The folks at Adobe are working on it and will release a script
--

I can confirm on my converted catalogs - 'sho'nuff, all my keywords are now marked to be exported. Poopie! That's a pain.

07/30/2008 03:32:29 PM · #45
Originally posted by ambaker:
Is there a reason to buy Lightroom in addtion to or instead of CS3?


This is sort of a holy war type of question :-) Most here will disagree but IMO you don't need both. I would download the trial versions and do some work thru them separately. There are certainly things that you can do in PS that cannot be done in LR whereas I suspect the other way is a small list.

Personally - I use LR for most of the processing & only use CS sometimes. Granted... I have an old version & I don't know it well. I hate to say it but it depends a lot on your position of post processing.... A digital artist will need PS whereas a photg could get away with just LR in most cases. Steps into flame resistant suit :-)
 07/30/2008 03:37:14 PM · #46
What about HDR images? Don't you need CS3 for Lightroom to be able to do HDR? Or am I mistaken?

Also, what exactly does "Volume Support" mean? I'd love a "Vault" feature where I could dump onto my NAS. Pull them over, edit, and return them to the NAS vault.

***

FYI, I just purchased Lightroom, and wound up also buy CS3 upgrade. As it worked out to $125 for CS3 Upgrade if I bought Lightroom. It was a tough decision...and I haven't told my wife that I bought CS3 as well.

07/30/2008 03:48:30 PM · #47
nevermind I miss-read your post.

Message edited by author 2008-07-30 15:51:08.
 07/30/2008 04:01:38 PM · #48
Originally posted by robs:
Originally posted by ambaker:
Is there a reason to buy Lightroom in addtion to or instead of CS3?


This is sort of a holy war type of question :-) Most here will disagree but IMO you don't need both.
[ . . . ]
I hate to say it but it depends a lot on your position of post processing.... A digital artist will need PS whereas a photg could get away with just LR in most cases. Steps into flame resistant suit :-)


Well stated. There are several threads around here on this subject already, a little searching and reading would probably shed some light. My two cents, to expand on what robs explained...

In this, I'll just use the term "Photoshop" to refer to the Photoshop editor (CS3, or whatever flavor you like).

Lightroom was built as a workflow tool from the ground up. It's meant primarily to organize your photos and their metadata. Secondary to that, it tightly integrates with Adobe Camera Raw, and while it can manage several different photo file types, it really shines with raw files. Tertiary to that, it allows you to edit files to a moderate extent. The amount of editing it allows you to accomplish is slowly growing with each release; but it can also integrate with other image editors (including Photoshop itself) in order to let the user make edits that LR itself cannot.

Photoshop was built as an image editor from the ground up. It's meant primarily to edit digital images. It also integrates with tools like Adobe Camera Raw to process raw images. It has library and workflow management components that have been added to it over time and that you can purchase others on top of it (including Lightroom itself) to provide greater library and metadata management.

So, to summarize:

Lightroom's focus is to organize and manage your files (your entire workflow, really), and that's what it does best. It can also do some editing (more and more as time goes on). It will let you "round-trip" files into external editors, including Photoshop itself, to do what editing it can't.

Photoshop's focus is editing, and that's what it does best. It can also do some organization, and you can buy other tools on top of it to integrate and provide more robust library organization (including Lightroom itself).

They essentially start from different directions, but they come together in a confusing, incestuous, circular mess somewhere in the middle. :P

Your/Other's mileage and opinion will undoubtedly vary, but that's what I tell people when they ask me that question. :)

Now, if robs doesn't mind, I'll tuck in and share his flame-retardant suit for a while. :P


Message edited by author 2008-07-30 16:03:54.
 07/30/2008 04:27:48 PM · #49
Originally posted by cdrice:
Originally posted by robs:
Originally posted by ambaker:
Is there a reason to buy Lightroom in addtion to or instead of CS3?


This is sort of a holy war type of question :-) Most here will disagree but IMO you don't need both.
[ . . . ]
I hate to say it but it depends a lot on your position of post processing.... A digital artist will need PS whereas a photg could get away with just LR in most cases. Steps into flame resistant suit :-)


Well stated. There are several threads around here on this subject already, a little searching and reading would probably shed some light. My two cents, to expand on what robs explained... They essentially start from different directions, but they come together in a confusing, incestuous, circular mess somewhere in the middle. :P

Being a recent Lightroom (1.4) convert, I will add that Lightroom excels at overall editing of images, whereas Photoshop excels at editing individual pixels and other subsets of an imvage -- i.e., selection and layer tools. I gather that line is blurred even more with the release of LR 2.0, which has an adjustment brush that now permits some level of dodging, burning and other pixel-level edits.

I chose to upgrade to LR instead of moving from Elements to CS3, and thus far find only a very few instances where I need to do additional edits. As I learn more about post-processing, i expect that will change and eventually I will need CS4. But for now, LR is a pretty powerful image editor for me, Elements fills in the blanks as well as I know how to use them, and the keywording, collections and other organization features would tilt the balance in favor of LR for me, right now.
08/02/2008 05:57:46 PM · #50
Originally posted by muckpond:
yay! need to buy RAM and wait for it to show up at academic superstore! yay!


It is now here :)
Academic Superstore
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