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11/04/2003 07:56:44 PM · #26
glimpse~ I would love to be a member but I will not give out my phone number. I went to all cell phones because of grr...telemarketers.

Change that and I am there.

I wonder if I could put in a fake number instead? hmm..

jonpink~I will have a look later. Is it a challenge site?
11/04/2003 08:15:58 PM · #27
Originally posted by Sonifo:

glimpse~ I would love to be a member but I will not give out my phone number. I went to all cell phones because of grr...telemarketers.

Change that and I am there.

I wonder if I could put in a fake number instead? hmm..

jonpink~I will have a look later. Is it a challenge site?

I just put in my city and state, and a phone number of 000-000-0000. Accepted!
I too am only on cell phones.

Message edited by author 2003-11-04 20:16:21.
11/04/2003 08:17:37 PM · #28
Unless it is something that matters, like giving real details here as they need to tie them in with your credit card (and this is the only site I have ever paid to join) then I tend to just fake the phone number.

If I can't see any reason why they would ever need to call me then I fake it. In the case here they would never need to call so if they did (and I am not saying Glimpse would at all) try and call, or pass the number on, there is no loss my end.

The problem is though that either a) You really do verify people, in which case a lot of people won't join as they won't give out their details, or b) It is possible to fake details, in which case it seems pointless to ask for them (maybe).

Good luck with the site Glimpse, I really hope it works out :)

11/04/2003 08:37:31 PM · #29
I'm surprised that #6 hasn't been addressed here. I can't imagine giving all this leeway to the webmaster.
It reads as follows:
"The Member grants PhoTournament.com a nonexclusive right, on a worldwide basis, to publish, use, adapt, edit, store, display, copy and/or modify such photograph in any way, in any and all media (including electronic media and on the Web Site), without limitation, and without consideration to the Member."
I don't want anyone messin' with my pictures! Thanks, but no thanks.
11/04/2003 08:46:21 PM · #30
I hadn't seen that Gracious, as I have not properly explored the new site.

I have to admit though that the complete blanket go ahead for a site to do literally whatever it wanted to do with my photos, sell them, alter them, sell them altered, and not even acknowledge who took the photo .... well, that clause alone would prevent me from joining.

Sorry Glimpse.
11/04/2003 08:55:21 PM · #31
I'm interested too. Just streamline your registration process, and stop asking so many personal questions, ie. phone number and address.

Good luck with your site.
11/04/2003 09:00:55 PM · #32
I joined and my memebership was already activated but I can't get past the home page...Glimpse knows though, might just be that the whole net is slow and messed up today.
11/04/2003 09:09:06 PM · #33
I signed up and gave my work address and work email address but now i must wait to be validated :-))

11/04/2003 10:47:49 PM · #34
"PhoTournament requires that you register your account using the email address given to you by your Internet Service Provider. Your registration will not be approved if you use a free email service such as Yahoo, Hotmail, Lycos, etc."

What if someone does not have, or does use, an "email address given to you by your Internet Service Provider"? How can you verify this?
11/04/2003 10:49:28 PM · #35
Originally posted by coolhar:

"PhoTournament requires that you register your account using the email address given to you by your Internet Service Provider. Your registration will not be approved if you use a free email service such as Yahoo, Hotmail, Lycos, etc."

What if someone does not have, or does use, an "email address given to you by your Internet Service Provider"? How can you verify this?


You don't get to play because you don't conform :D

11/04/2003 11:46:41 PM · #36
Am I missing something in this thread. Like maybe the beginning? I swear that last time I read this thread, the first post was something like "visit my new site", and that seems to be missing for me.

EDIT... OK, after I posted, it created a PAGE 2 and came up with the original post. hmmm...very strange.

Message edited by author 2003-11-04 23:47:49.
11/05/2003 02:40:32 AM · #37
Originally posted by hbunch7187:

Am I missing something in this thread. Like maybe the beginning? I swear that last time I read this thread, the first post was something like "visit my new site", and that seems to be missing for me.

EDIT... OK, after I posted, it created a PAGE 2 and came up with the original post. hmmm...very strange.


Do you have your forums in reverse heather? If so, new pages are created late for us site council people if there is a hidden post. This is because we can see the post and it counts as a number in the 'x' amount of posts per page. However, noone else - including the server so it seems - can see the hidden post so a new page is not created. This means that the first (or last) post is hidden from us until extra posts are made. Quite annoying sometimes.
11/05/2003 04:23:25 AM · #38
What I can't understand is why a Photo Tournament / Challenge / Contest website needs to verify a person's identity, to the extent of possibly ringing the person up for an identity check? What do they need to 'protect'? Sure, they may want only people who are serious and legit about photography, but surely there are ways of determining this without going to extremes.

11/05/2003 09:16:58 AM · #39
by the way, did you happen to check the data protection act ? As this is a UK site, at least as far as I know, and you are gathering personal information, I think one of the legal requirements is that you store it securely.

But I guess you said you've checked with lawyers, so I'm sure you've already looked at this.
11/05/2003 09:37:41 AM · #40
Originally posted by Gordon:

by the way, did you happen to check the data protection act ? As this is a UK site, at least as far as I know, and you are gathering personal information, I think one of the legal requirements is that you store it securely.

But I guess you said you've checked with lawyers, so I'm sure you've already looked at this.

It's also a requirement that you register with the Data Protection Registrar.
11/05/2003 03:20:14 PM · #41
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by Gordon:

by the way, did you happen to check the data protection act ? As this is a UK site, at least as far as I know, and you are gathering personal information, I think one of the legal requirements is that you store it securely.

But I guess you said you've checked with lawyers, so I'm sure you've already looked at this.

It's also a requirement that you register with the Data Protection Registrar.


Well, first of all, thank you for observing this fact.

I already start looking about the requirement related to the Data Protection Act.

The point is certainly not to about to save the 35 pounds related to the registration, but to understand if the initiative can be extempted (due to the fact which is fully free at the moment and the information is not collected for marketing purposes).

However a few points:

[1] The site definitely wants to respect the Law
[2] The Law is there to help people not to stress or harm them

I am sure there is some time to become compliant with all the issues like that. After all, every initiative need to start to become compliant to something.

The important issue is to start things rolling and then, with the necessary care, everything will fit in place.
11/05/2003 03:24:41 PM · #42
How long does it take to get validated so we can log in?
11/05/2003 03:36:05 PM · #43
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

How long does it take to get validated so we can log in?


You are validated John. Thank you for subscribing. All those which have subscribed so far, have been validate (the last bunch just a few minutes ago).

I cannot review the e-mails during working hours, and I want to keep some kind of human control on the site (the site handles many events automatically, but to automate the subscription as easy as it would have been, would have meant to betray the site spirit).

Basically subscriptions are reviewed asap but users can expect a delay of 24-48 hours for an answer. That, at the moment, is normal.

If there is no answer, it means that the request is in quarantine because of the rather doubious data provided from the user which could have declared a false identity.

In that case I do not phone or write to anybody. I just wait for the user to knock on the door again. If it is a real user, stimulated and well-intentioned, he/she will do it.

I am not aiming to very big numbers. Just a solid serious community to serve and nurture.

Once again, being quite experienced about software and the Net, I would like with this site to break some misconception which there are about the Net.

People is not forced to be on the Net. And people who behaves badly can be controlled and restricted. It is just about being efficient really.
11/05/2003 03:43:24 PM · #44
Just one more info:

Judges, even if they can login, are logged out automatically because there is no PhoTournament in Scrutiny stage at the moment.

That behavior is weird only at this very initial stage.

As soon as a few PhoTournaments will reach Scrutiny stage, most features of the site will get alive automatically.

Challengers can login and find the current PhoTournaments (3 at the moment) where they can submit.

The initial process may be slow, but I can see it taking off quite soon.

As soon as the "archive" will be filled with a few PhoTournaments which have completed their life-cycle the site will achieve the stability for version 1.0 (which, infact, at the moment is beta = testing/initiating)
11/05/2003 03:58:24 PM · #45
You are quite probably exempt from having to register under the DPR, but you still have to comply with the rest of the act if you are gathering any information like this. Supposedly you are meant to comply with the law before you start gathering the info, not at some later date. In particular, the concern would be about you not caring about securing the data adequately. Least that's what it looks like from a quick scan of //www.dpr.gov.uk
11/05/2003 04:12:39 PM · #46
Originally posted by Gordon:

You are quite probably exempt from having to register under the DPR, but you still have to comply with the rest of the act if you are gathering any information like this. Supposedly you are meant to comply with the law before you start gathering the info, not at some later date. In particular, the concern would be about you not caring about securing the data adequately. Least that's what it looks like from a quick scan of //www.dpr.gov.uk


Thank you. I read it. The data is secured adequately.

Just as a simple (and silly) example.. the password are encrypted automatically via md5. If somebody forgets its password not even the webmaster can tell him/her which one was it because the algorithm cannot be decrypted.
(The solution is to to set a temporary password and then let the user to log-in and change it).
11/05/2003 04:24:16 PM · #47
I just joined - Its interesting looking at your Profile on DPC Antonio...Not much info about you...

Mike

:-)


11/05/2003 04:59:24 PM · #48
Originally posted by chinstrap:

I just joined - Its interesting looking at your Profile on DPC Antonio...Not much info about you...

Mike

:-)


Thanks for joining. I activated your account.

There is my real name which, among all the information that can be written, is probably the most important one.

I would not need more than real names and an e-mail from user on PT to make it works. But there is no way to check that whoever is subscribing is doing it with his/her real name. The rest of the data is requested to facilitate the use of real names.

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