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04/03/2008 04:24:10 PM · #1
Very moving, may be disturbing to some, but photos are well done.

//www.guardian.co.uk/society/gallery/2008/mar/31/lifebeforedeath?picture=333325401

"This sombre series of portraits taken of people before and after they had died is a challenging and poignant study. The work by German photographer Walter Schels and his partner Beate Lakotta, who recorded interviews with the subjects in their final days, reveals much about dying - and living."
04/03/2008 04:41:21 PM · #2
Absolutely BRILLIANT!
04/03/2008 04:48:39 PM · #3
Never been a big fan of negative imagery, but it does have it's place.
04/03/2008 04:50:49 PM · #4
this was a stunning set of photos.
04/03/2008 04:51:49 PM · #5
Thank you for sharing the link with us.

I found 13/14 most moving.
04/03/2008 05:01:09 PM · #6
The accompanying article is worth the read, too

//www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/apr/01/society.photography
04/03/2008 05:03:01 PM · #7
Thanks for the link, truly an awakening to live life. I found it interesting to read how the various individuals were in different stages of dying. A moving piece.
04/03/2008 05:09:48 PM · #8
pure, simple and heartbreaking. wonderful
04/03/2008 05:11:05 PM · #9
wow.. I've never seen anything like this before.. Thanks for sharing !!
04/03/2008 05:22:31 PM · #10
Power way for me to start the day - SMILE!

Excellent series. Thanks for the link.
04/03/2008 05:22:31 PM · #11
Originally posted by jaysonmc:

Never been a big fan of negative imagery, but it does have it's place.


Not sure why you'd call these images negative. Somber, even sad, yes, but not negative.
04/03/2008 05:23:32 PM · #12
I've only just lost my grandmother to breast cancer a couple of weeks ago...I wasn't sure if I could bear to look at this. I'm glad I did. They shared a very personal time in their lives...nothing more personal than dying. 7/8 moved me the most...the woman that preferred to die alone, feeling it would be easier to leave her husband and children.
04/03/2008 05:38:43 PM · #13
Powerful & evocative. Simply stunning, the funny thing is, any of those photos alone would get absolutely slated on DPC, this is a CLASSIC example of why you shouldn't worry about scores and such, photography, when applied correctly, is as powerful an artform as anything else out there.

thanks for sharing.
04/03/2008 05:41:05 PM · #14
Originally posted by kandykarml:

wow.. I've never seen anything like this before.. Thanks for sharing !!


If you havent seen anything like that then you need to check this... If you have kids and they are ever getting you down then spend a few minutes with this series... then go give them a hug.

2007 Pulitzer

OK, just looked at it again and massively choked up.. so powerfully moving.

Message edited by author 2008-04-03 17:43:17.
04/03/2008 05:55:08 PM · #15
Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by kandykarml:

wow.. I've never seen anything like this before.. Thanks for sharing !!


If you havent seen anything like that then you need to check this... If you have kids and they are ever getting you down then spend a few minutes with this series... then go give them a hug.

2007 Pulitzer

OK, just looked at it again and massively choked up.. so powerfully moving.


I just done the same thing..
04/03/2008 06:00:48 PM · #16
Originally posted by Spazmo99:


Not sure why you'd call these images negative. Somber, even sad, yes, but not negative.


Pictures of dead people is not what I would consider positive, quite the opposite actually.
Photographically speaking they are great, and a interesting study on the lives that define us. However, it isn't something that I particularly enjoy.

The use of adjectives isn't tied to one person's thinking. Question, "is this ugly or beautiful"? There is no answer for all.
04/03/2008 06:10:00 PM · #17
Extraordinary. Thank you so much for posting.
04/03/2008 06:36:17 PM · #18
Originally posted by Simms:

... any of those photos alone would get absolutely slated on DPC ...

Any one of those photos on it's own is ok ..... but together, as a SERIES, as a set (complete with a moving story, as well) - THAT is when they become so very powerful!
04/03/2008 06:53:08 PM · #19
thank you so much for posting this! Strangely enough, I found it harder to look at the "before" photos, of alive people knowing they are about to die. The "after" photos are more peaceful, and more beautiful, in some perverse way, too. Perhaps it has something to do with the way he shot the faces, not "looking up" as we are all used to see dead people, but as if they are in a deep and liberating sleep.
04/03/2008 06:54:52 PM · #20
Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by Simms:

... any of those photos alone would get absolutely slated on DPC ...

Any one of those photos on it's own is ok ..... but together, as a SERIES, as a set (complete with a moving story, as well) - THAT is when they become so very powerful!


AH!! Maybe you have just hit on a future long-term DPC challenge.. create a series of 10 - 12 shots with a theme. Might take a bit of recoding of the challenge stuff, and entries would have to be limited.. but what a way to take the site forwards eh? A proper `documentary` challenge...
04/03/2008 07:10:08 PM · #21
Well, that got me all choked up and watery eyed.

It also made me laugh when I read the one about about the lady who just bought a new fridge. Probably saved for a long time to get it and isn't going to get the use out of it now - isn't she sweet.

Message edited by author 2008-04-03 19:10:57.
04/03/2008 07:55:25 PM · #22
Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by Simms:

... any of those photos alone would get absolutely slated on DPC ...

Any one of those photos on it's own is ok ..... but together, as a SERIES, as a set (complete with a moving story, as well) - THAT is when they become so very powerful!


AH!! Maybe you have just hit on a future long-term DPC challenge.. create a series of 10 - 12 shots with a theme. Might take a bit of recoding of the challenge stuff, and entries would have to be limited.. but what a way to take the site forwards eh? A proper `documentary` challenge...


That's a very interesting idea...I think that we would learn a lot from a challenge like that. I'd like to see this idea explored further.
04/03/2008 07:56:10 PM · #23
Very interesting series and timely for me. Thank you for sharing it. My father is receiving hospice care and they didn't expect him to last through last weekend but he is still hanging on. He is 102 and it is amazing how he is still fighting to live.
04/03/2008 07:59:28 PM · #24
Originally posted by LevT:

thank you so much for posting this! Strangely enough, I found it harder to look at the "before" photos, of alive people knowing they are about to die. The "after" photos are more peaceful, and more beautiful, in some perverse way, too. Perhaps it has something to do with the way he shot the faces, not "looking up" as we are all used to see dead people, but as if they are in a deep and liberating sleep.


That actually gets talked about in the article, how they had to wrangle the dead people into a sitting position, to shoot them in a similar relationship to gravity that they had when the before pictures were taken.

As to these images being good for DPC or not, perhaps they don't have enough WOW to fit the standard voting templates.
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