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02/21/2008 02:16:44 PM · #81

Well, the horse has been sent out to pasture, but has that been done in a way where the horse will have safe passage back to the barn...yay or neigh (pun intended)?

Independent of the humorous aspects including the shopping priorities in Alabama and whether or not DPC should have a nude macro challenge (thank you, Leroy, for not making it a self-portrait challenge as well!)...YIKES!

I can't help but wonder not that these events take place at all, but am I the only one who laments THE WAY these unfortunate events unfold?

Spork99

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02/21/2008 02:49:15 PM · #82

Originally posted by hihosilver:

... but am I the only one who laments THE WAY these unfortunate events unfold?

No, but I think that's largely a result of the way which leroy chose to handle events.

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02/21/2008 03:00:54 PM · #83

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by hihosilver:
... but am I the only one who laments THE WAY these unfortunate events unfold?

No, but I think that's largely a result of the way which leroy chose to handle events.

Really? He may be the trigger point, but don't we all weigh in with some responsibility whether we are active participants or mere witnesses...just by being members of our beloved DPC community. I cannot isolate the responsibility as easily as you...why isn't it a responsibility that we all carry?

Message edited by author 2008-02-21 15:01:55.

smardaz

02/21/2008 03:03:08 PM · #84

Originally posted by JamieLynn:

"As far as bending the rules is concerned, some feel that the likely outcome is generally better than the status quo. When one is placed in a position of feeling he has nothing to lose, one tends to be a bit braver about challenging the system.

Don't bindly believe what you read on the letter (however hilarious it may be). Follow the links, read the threads, make your own decision on not only the actions, but the motives behind the actions.

With that, I bid you all goodbye and wish you the best of luck. And remember, love your art, not your scores.

Leroy"

edited for spelling!

i repeat my earlier assertion that this account was setup alot more for leroy to have a second outlet than for JamieLynn to be a member

PapaBob

02/21/2008 03:07:56 PM · #85

I think the SC has a difficult job to often they have to sit back and listen to people bash every move and decision they make. I believe it is ok and part of our nature to question things but when people question every single decision then it just gets a little old. I support the efforts of the SC to try to keep the site somewhat under control to make it so more people will have the opportunity enjoy the site. I believe in freedom of speech but also think that things can and do go a little to far at times and it is the job of the SC to shut it down when it does. I applaud their courage to take action and want to thank them for their tireless efforts.

posthumous

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02/21/2008 03:08:25 PM · #86

Originally posted by smardaz:

i repeat my earlier assertion that this account was setup alot more for leroy to have a second outlet than for JamieLynn to be a member

hypocrite! everybody knows about your dumaz and halfaz accounts!

howzit

02/21/2008 03:13:57 PM · #87

On the topic of returning - I have seen two somewhat high-profile figures leaving, Rikki and now Leroy (not to mention Rose, ESPY ...). It has been my observation that in each circumstance, although totally different circumstance, each would have been welcomed back - and for one, I miss them (at least Rikki and I am sure Leroy down the road). I hope they return and join the ranks - they were valuable assets to the site and community (minus the infractions).

soup

Canon EOS-30D

02/21/2008 03:18:47 PM · #88

i'm not going to comment on the whole situation - but if the owner of this website privately asked me to pipe down/tone down/knock it off on a given subject - i think merely out of respect for his( langdons ) efforts to keep the place alive i would have honored the request with no time wasted.

there's a perfect place for behaving like that - //www.somethingawful.com. a typo can get you banned there... on top of that no one gives a shit about it either... and you're publically acknowledged as being banned and with a smart ass description of why to boot. and you have to pay just to post.

if you think this punishment is out of line - think again.

pushing the limits is one thing - blatant disrespect is something different altogether.

Message edited by author 2008-02-21 15:19:10.

ShutterHack

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02/21/2008 03:21:21 PM · #89

Girl Kissing Girl
Ok I feel better thanks eug

LOL, Leroy is hilarious. we need to have a Cheeseman challenge! Just so everyone can lighten up a little.

smardaz

02/21/2008 03:24:35 PM · #90

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by smardaz:

i repeat my earlier assertion that this account was setup alot more for leroy to have a second outlet than for JamieLynn to be a member

hypocrite! everybody knows about your dumaz and halfaz accounts!

LOL! that one put a laugh in my workday, thanks!

Spork99

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02/21/2008 03:41:37 PM · #91

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by hihosilver:
... but am I the only one who laments THE WAY these unfortunate events unfold?

No, but I think that's largely a result of the way which leroy chose to handle events.

Really? He may be the trigger point, but don't we all weigh in with some responsibility whether we are active participants or mere witnesses...just by being members of our beloved DPC community. I cannot isolate the responsibility as easily as you...why isn't it a responsibility that we all carry?

The responsibility for leroy's ban? No, leroy was warned and continued to push the bounds, he had to expect some kind of sanction. Don't mistake that as a statement indicating my agreement with the penalty, I think six months is a bit harsh. Even Rose was not given a suspension that long AFAIK. She was, IMO, much more disruptive to DPC and certainly much less entertaining than leroy ever has been.

Louis

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02/21/2008 03:53:15 PM · #92

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

She was, IMO, much more disruptive to DPC and certainly much less entertaining than leroy ever has been.

She was entertaining for all the wrong reasons. :-)

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02/21/2008 04:01:31 PM · #93

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

The responsibility for leroy's ban? No, leroy was warned and continued to push the bounds, he had to expect some kind of sanction.

Oh no! You missed the first part of the sentence...not that he was banned, but the WAY all of these events unfolded I find a little bit heartbreaking. I am not in position to weigh the judgment of his ban...that's a done deal and well outside the scope of my comment and well within the boundaries of the SC.

I am referring to THE WAY...as in THE PROCESS that all of these events unfolded and how we all escalate the process into a point of no return...It just seems to me that we all so easily plug into the negativity and then shift the weight around like a candle to a candle... and this particular flame is casting a harsh light which permeates all of us...as a community. My point is that eventually we will all carry some portion of the weight of this event and others like it.

And, at what point, if any...does the spirit of forgiveness return? Is there is a turning point? The bridge of trust was broken, but how badly was it burned...and how much are we all willing to help rebuild it...if at all. I bring this point up because I think we should all weigh it in our hearts.

Just my two boring cents...carry on!

Message edited by author 2008-02-21 16:02:50.

Rino63

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02/21/2008 04:02:52 PM · #94

Probably six months of suspension of the membership is a too much long time...... Considering the topics of the violations, the best punishment could be the obligation of submit flowers,cats, and sunsets every challenge also if are DNMC :) Seriously, and as personal opinion, I don't think that a proposal of a macro nude could be offensive or a violation of ToU, there are many ways for a macro nude without violating the ToU. Insults are another thing!! But public apology could suffice if other members accept this.

LanndonKane

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02/21/2008 04:04:19 PM · #95

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Ouch! man.

I'm thinking about Eye_fetch because it's getting lame here anyway.

Everything on the internet is lame, except those steamy sites I can't get to on public computers.

kirbic

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Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

02/21/2008 04:05:01 PM · #96

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

...I think six months is a bit harsh. Even Rose was not given a suspension that long AFAIK.

She was given more than one suspension, and the final one was a permanent ban, which she tried at least four separate times to get around.

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

She was, IMO, much more disruptive to DPC and certainly much less entertaining than leroy ever has been.

Rose was no doubt a greater disruption, thus the permanent ban. We have learned from past experience. The community should not have to tolerate repeated temper tantrums in the forums, abuse of community members through the PM and comment systems, or other misbehavior. Though six months may seem harsh, it is in keeping with the severity of the behavior and the repeated ignoring of our attempts to encourage change.
This will be, personally, my one and only post on the matter. I've spent at least 12 hours this week alone dealing with the forum storm, and honestly that isn't really adding value to my life. I know that some others on the SC have spent even more time than I have on it.

glad2badad

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02/21/2008 04:05:47 PM · #97

Originally posted by hihosilver:

... Just my two boring cents...carry on!

FAR from boring! Very well written.

I particularly liked this phrase (from

hihosilver quote): "It just seems to me that we all so easily plug into the negativity and then shift the weight around like a candle to a candle... and this particular flame is casting a harsh light which permeates all of us...as a community."

mpeters

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02/21/2008 04:05:58 PM · #98

Originally posted by soup:

i'm not going to comment on the whole situation - but if the owner of this website privately asked me to pipe down/tone down/knock it off on a given subject - i think merely out of respect for his( langdons ) efforts to keep the place alive i would have honored the request with no time wasted.

there's a perfect place for behaving like that - //www.somethingawful.com. a typo can get you banned there... on top of that no one gives a shit about it either... and you're publically acknowledged as being banned and with a smart ass description of why to boot. and you have to pay just to post.

if you think this punishment is out of line - think again.

pushing the limits is one thing - blatant disrespect is something different altogether.

See the bold I added for emphasis. What more needs to be said? It's Langdon's site. fotoman was very helpful to me and others, but c'mon Leroy, what did you expect? That your antics would just be ignored...

Message edited by author 2008-02-21 16:17:52.

RainMotorsports

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02/21/2008 04:09:22 PM · #99

I guess I havent been around much to see anything. Never though leroy would lose it or become disruptive. But looking through the list it kind of adds up i guess. Then it again it also means someone actually pays that much attention lol.