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02/06/2008 04:03:42 PM · #26 |
My advice? Just make sure you don't turn it YELLOW...::yikes!::
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02/06/2008 04:17:07 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Will the voters understand that and appreciate it? Who knows... |
Yeah well.... I think this might be the under-statement of the challenge..... answer is likely to be... er... not so much :-)
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02/06/2008 04:24:11 PM · #28 |
I foresee a lot of left-to-right and right-to-left pans, or ones with a slight tilt. Any that go up or down might get bonus points from me :-)
I also expect most entries to be ones where the camera is stationary, shooting a moving object. Reckon the other way round (shooting a static person/landmark etc from, say, the passenger seat of a car) would fit the bill? |
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02/06/2008 04:40:39 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by SoulMan1978:
I foresee a lot of left-to-right and right-to-left pans, or ones with a slight tilt. Any that go up or down might get bonus points from me :-) |
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02/06/2008 04:48:21 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by SoulMan1978:
I foresee a lot of left-to-right and right-to-left pans, or ones with a slight tilt. Any that go up or down might get bonus points from me :-)
I also expect most entries to be ones where the camera is stationary, shooting a moving object. Reckon the other way round (shooting a static person/landmark etc from, say, the passenger seat of a car) would fit the bill? |
Panning, by definition, involves moving the camera. A stationary camera and a moving object is motion blur, not panning. The most common use of panning in still photography is to isolate a moving object by "panning with it", leaving a blurred BG. But you can create interesting images by panning without tracking a moving object, in which case nothing in the image will be sharp. The question is whether the voters will be (or even can be) "moved" by such an image, if you'll pardon the pun :-)
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02/06/2008 05:46:42 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
The question is whether the voters will be (or even can be) "moved" by such an image, if you'll pardon the pun :-)
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The answer is NO (as already stated), but I can add this (from the Speed Challenge) -
I loved it, but the concensus was it had no subject. |
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02/06/2008 05:59:45 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by photodude:
Attention Folks With Fancy IS, VR, etc. Glass:
Don't forget to hit the off switch. |
On Canon's newer glass with IS (like my 70-300), there is a three-way switch for:
Off - turns IS off completely
1 - full IS mode
2 - panning mode |
My bad...there are two switches (not one three-way switch), one switch for turning IS on and off, the other for toggling between IS Mode 1 (complete IS) or IS Mode 2 (IS for panning).
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02/06/2008 06:55:46 PM · #33 |
This is still about my most favourite landscape shot that I've taken
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02/07/2008 09:35:57 AM · #34 |
I like it  Gordon. |
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02/07/2008 08:53:52 PM · #35 |
| So what I am getting from this thread is that for this challenge nothing would really be static or in focus? Maybe kind of like Gordon's shot |
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02/07/2008 09:05:19 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by JustinM:
So what I am getting from this thread is that for this challenge nothing would really be static or in focus? Maybe kind of like Gordon's shot |
no, i believe your subject should be sharp or at least much sharper than your background as a result of following the subject with your camera while you snap the shot. |
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02/07/2008 10:10:14 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by citymars:
Are "panning" and "motion panning" the same thing? If yes, why not call this Motion Panning III? If not, then what does that mean? All blurred background with no in-focus subject? :-/ |
In "motion panning" the object is to keep the subject sharp while blurring everything else. In theory, "panning" allows the creation of images where NOTHING is sharp. Will the voters understand that and appreciate it? Who knows... |
Originally posted by briantammy:
Originally posted by JustinM:
So what I am getting from this thread is that for this challenge nothing would really be static or in focus? Maybe kind of like Gordon's shot |
no, i believe your subject should be sharp or at least much sharper than your background as a result of following the subject with your camera while you snap the shot. |
So you're arguing AGAINST Roberts theory, eh? |
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02/07/2008 11:24:06 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by citymars:
Are "panning" and "motion panning" the same thing? If yes, why not call this Motion Panning III? If not, then what does that mean? All blurred background with no in-focus subject? :-/ |
In "motion panning" the object is to keep the subject sharp while blurring everything else. In theory, "panning" allows the creation of images where NOTHING is sharp. Will the voters understand that and appreciate it? Who knows... |
Originally posted by briantammy:
Originally posted by JustinM:
So what I am getting from this thread is that for this challenge nothing would really be static or in focus? Maybe kind of like Gordon's shot |
no, i believe your subject should be sharp or at least much sharper than your background as a result of following the subject with your camera while you snap the shot. |
So you're arguing AGAINST Roberts theory, eh? |
actually he's right. I missed his comment. Panning is simply moving the camera horizontally. I've always connected it with following a subject. |
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02/08/2008 01:39:24 AM · #39 |
| I think it's going to be one of those challenges where no one knows until the votes are in. |
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02/08/2008 08:04:40 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Originally posted by inshaala:
Originally posted by Pug-H:
"Pan" is "bread" in Japanese; it comes from the Portuguese word, um, "pan". |
hehe - well "pan" is spanish... ooo maybe i could do some horrendous challenge entry pun... with pan... *ahem* |
Yes, I know it's also Spanish, but it came from the Portuguese traders during the Edo period. ;-Þ |
..actually it comes from the Latin "panis".
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02/13/2008 01:13:59 PM · #41 |
| So is riding a merry go round panning?? |
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02/13/2008 02:12:00 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by kleski:
So is riding a merry go round panning?? |
IMO, no. Camera isn't be moved (panned) - besides, it's too easy. :-D |
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02/13/2008 02:29:02 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by photodude:
Attention Folks With Fancy IS, VR, etc. Glass:
Don't forget to hit the off switch. |
On Canon's newer glass with IS (like my 70-300), there is a three-way switch for:
Off - turns IS off completely
1 - full IS mode
2 - panning mode |
My bad...there are two switches (not one three-way switch), one switch for turning IS on and off, the other for toggling between IS Mode 1 (complete IS) or IS Mode 2 (IS for panning). |
What is IS? |
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02/13/2008 05:19:03 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by brownguy:
What is IS? |
Image Stabilization? (Not sure because my Fuji has a different way to compensate for long zoom "movement") |
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02/13/2008 05:58:55 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by kleski:
So is riding a merry go round panning?? |
IMO, no. Camera isn't be moved (panned) - besides, it's too easy. :-D |
This is, of course, too late, but I'd technically disagree. In film, if you move the camera down a track to follow say someone walking or something like that, it is called a "pan". The camera itself isn't swiveling but it is moving along with the action.
Message edited by author 2008-02-13 17:59:27.
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02/13/2008 06:05:53 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by kleski:
So is riding a merry go round panning?? |
IMO, no. Camera isn't be moved (panned) - besides, it's too easy. :-D |
This is, of course, too late, but I'd technically disagree. In film, if you move the camera down a track to follow say someone walking or something like that, it is called a "pan". The camera itself isn't swiveling but it is moving along with the action. |
Problem is a lot of voters don't understand what panning is, they are getting confused with motion blur!! |
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02/13/2008 06:14:06 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by kleski:
So is riding a merry go round panning?? |
IMO, no. Camera isn't be moved (panned) - besides, it's too easy. :-D |
This is, of course, too late, but I'd technically disagree. In film, if you move the camera down a track to follow say someone walking or something like that, it is called a "pan". The camera itself isn't swiveling but it is moving along with the action. |
Problem is a lot of voters don't understand what panning is, they are getting confused with motion blur!! |
Well, if the camera is dead still and something moves past it and blurs because of the shutter speed, I'd consider that not to be panning.
However, I'd allow the merry-go-round or taking a picture from a moving car or other method where the camera is moving in space somehow. It's my personal opinion, but I'd consider that a form of a "pan".
Message edited by author 2008-02-13 18:14:42.
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02/13/2008 09:49:41 PM · #48 |
Some interesting articles on photography panning technique:
Originally posted by New York Institute of Photography:
From this article ==> NYIP - How to Photograph Motor Sports ... "In a nutshell, panning is when you turn the camera to follow the moving action in your viewfinder, and use a slow shutter as you take the shot. Your objective is to get a sharp image of the fast-moving subject (the racing car) and blur the background to give the still picture a sense of motion and speed." |
Moose Peterson, Wildlife Photography - Panning
Mastering Panning - Photographing Moving Subjects
In general it seems that the technique of panning involves moving the camera and following a subject. |
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02/14/2008 12:56:33 AM · #49 |
Here's where I got my stuff, from wiki on "Panning":
Panning refers to the horizontal movement or rotation of a film or video camera, or the scanning of a subject horizontally on video or a display device.
Movie and television cameras pan by turning horizontally on a vertical axis, but the effect may be enhanced by adding other techniques, such as rails to move the whole camera platform. Slow panning is also combined with zooming in or out on a single subject, leaving the subject in the same portion of the frame, to emphasize or de-emphasize the subject respectively.
In video technology, the use of a camera to scan a subject horizontally is called panning.
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02/14/2008 09:19:42 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Here's where I got my stuff, from wiki on "Panning": ... |
Ah yes, but there's more to that article that addresses panning as used in photography rather than filming (movies, etc...). Such as:
(emphasis added to highlight)
"When photographing a moving subject, the panning technique is achieved by keeping the subject in the same position of the frame for the duration of the exposure. The length of the exposure must be long enough to allow the background to blur due to the movement of the camera as you follow the subject in the viewfinder."
Entire article here ==> Wikipedia - Panning
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