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 10/07/2003 10:05:16 AM · #1
Does anyone else find it insulting when they put time and effort into a comment only for it to be singled out as not helpful because there is something constructively negative about it? There would be no point being here if we only got positive comments, we're all (presumably) here to learn. I'm prepared for negative comments on my pictures, but the above issue really ****s me off, as it's my time I'm giving up when I comment on other people's photos. It does seem to be a minority though, but at times I wonder why I bother.
It's ironic, as it's the people who complain they don't have enough critiques who can't handle constructive criticism.
How do other people feel?

Bob
 10/07/2003 10:07:57 AM · #2
Try to look at commenting as a learning tool for yourself rather than for the photographer who receives the comment. You will get more out of it that way than worrying about whether or not the comment gets checked as helpful.
 10/07/2003 10:11:04 AM · #3
On the positive side I was contacted by a couple of folks I left comments on thanking me...one questioned but still said thanks. I try to leave comment on any image that is IMO a lower score.
10/07/2003 10:11:45 AM · #4
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Try to look at commenting as a learning tool for yourself rather than for the photographer who receives the comment. You will get more out of it that way than worrying about whether or not the comment gets checked as helpful.


I absolutely do, and it has improved the way I look at photos no end.
However, I can have a thin skin at times, and it gets on my nerves.
 10/07/2003 11:39:20 AM · #5
Bob

I love it when I get a comment from you. Because I know that for the short time you have been here you are truly one of the best! And I respect your judgement and comments. I look forward to see what you have to say on my entries. The same goes for the other great photographers here on DPC. But I do not see many comments from the others.

I try to leave them when I have the time. The last time I got very daring and even left the score. I thought I would be crucified! Especially if I left a low vote on one of the better photographers! I did get a bunch of numerous PM messages thanking me and discussing their actual entry! and a great deal of them got marked helpful?

But I also have a large number out that are not marked as helpful. I guess they either forget them or do not want to acknowledge the comment.

Please keep up the good work and help encourage the rest of us to do what is right!

Bob you are tops in my oppinion. Keep up the good work and we can not wait to see your next shoot.


Calvus



10/07/2003 11:41:02 AM · #6
Many thanks!
 10/07/2003 11:44:09 AM · #7
Maybe it is a sin of ommission rather than a sin of commision. They have not deliberately checked a Not Helpful box. they have just faile to check the Helpful box. Just lazy? Maybe? I prefer to think that's why many of my less flattering comments are not checked.
 10/07/2003 11:52:10 AM · #8
No problem. I only speak the truth. Please do not give up commenting. I' am waiting for your comment on my Dreams and Nightmare entry :)

I have numerous great comments saying it's a 8, 9, and 10 but the voting is so-so.

I thought I was not going to enter the next challenge after Macro and AT Rest but when my wife and I went to the bank to sign some papers and I saw this shot and I could not resist it. I know, I' am now one of those that carries their camera everplace :)

I had one for Urban Landscape submited also but the way the voting is going I deleted it.

Keep up the good work. I need your encouragement and advice to improve my own work. And from the other great photographers also. I have already seen improvement in my work for the short time I have been here!

Thanks to everyone.


Calvus
 10/07/2003 12:50:30 PM · #9
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Does anyone else find it insulting when they put time and effort into a comment only for it to be singled out as not helpful because there is something constructively negative about it?


Time and effort, Bob, are better invested in works that move us. At least, this is a workable facit I have come away with after offering to share my generically solicited thoughts and impressions on many entries. In the end, there are the few who appreciate an interest in a piece they happen to have made and therefore welcome it. When an author is still so emotionally attached to his/her work that a comment (critique?) is affectively interpreted, a use is lost.

For this reason, I no longer comment on anything but photos with a strong commotive quality, on both sides of the scale, mind you. This, by and large, appears to provide a common factual premise making for a more sincere and rewarding interaction. ??

Message edited by author 2003-10-07 15:46:10.
 10/07/2003 01:01:26 PM · #10
Comments I cannot mark helpful (or otherwise do anything about) are those which are either crude or judgemental to the point of demonstrating not only an astounding ignorance on part of the commenter, but also an apparent willingness to act on it.

I can only accept these for what they are and regret the darkness surrounding us. ;-)

Message edited by author 2003-10-07 13:01:52.
 10/07/2003 01:25:28 PM · #11
For what it is worth, I rarely mark comments helpful, not because they aren't, but because I often read them on my phone and the java script doesn't work.
 10/07/2003 02:29:57 PM · #12
I generally only mark comments helpful if they are helpful in relation to the picture they are commenting on. Things like 'this is good/silly/neat/cute/etc", are nice but not necessarily helpful.

Other comments that are based on incorrect assumptions about how the photo was taken might be helpful in other situations (ie a photo where those assumptions are correct), but not where that particular photo is concerned. Those may not get marked as helpful because it doesn't help me know what to change/do if I find myself in a comparable situation.

Just my ways.

PS: Has that thumnail link button always been there or have I been forever blind?
 10/07/2003 02:30:37 PM · #13
Originally posted by shareinnc:
For what it is worth, I rarely mark comments helpful, not because they aren't, but because I often read them on my phone and the java script doesn't work.


I have noticed that 9 times out of 10 when a comment I have made is not checked, all others are not checked by that person... so this statement makes perfect sense.
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