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09/19/2007 10:07:24 AM · #1301 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by pearlseyes:
Do most of you use Genuine Fractals for upsizing when submitting images to Alamy? If so, is it an easy program to use? Worth the cost? While I'm at it, what do you think of Alamy? Is it a good place to start for a stock newbie? Thank you.
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I only use PS for upsizing. Largest side to 5300px and save at 12. That's it. As for a place for newbies to start..... if you have a strong portfolio, then yes. If you are just learning photography, then probably not. Remember Alamy has almost 9 million images for you to compete against, so you need to give them things that will sell and of superior quality over those that will go head-to-head with your images. Alamy sells more editorial than RF, so those type images will sell better. People photography sells better than say flowers or buildings or boats - think lifestyle-type images. |
and at how much DPI then idnic?
Message edited by author 2007-09-19 10:09:09.
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09/19/2007 10:09:57 AM · #1302 |
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
and at how much DPI then idnic? |
300 :)
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09/19/2007 10:15:21 AM · #1303 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
and at how much DPI then idnic? |
300 :) |
that's a big file :-P
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09/19/2007 10:17:55 AM · #1304 |
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
and at how much DPI then idnic? |
300 :) |
that's a big file :-P |
I tried this on one file I was considering. The compressed version at 100% is around 6 MB (this will differ by image) and the uncompressed was 53 MB.
ETA: The dpi does nothing to the file size. It's just a number and is only needed when printing.
Message edited by author 2007-09-19 10:19:02.
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09/19/2007 10:18:36 AM · #1305 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
and at how much DPI then idnic? |
300 :) |
that's a big file :-P |
I tried this on one file I was considering. The compressed version at 100% is around 6 MB (this will differ by image) and the uncompressed was 53 MB. |
Yep, that's what they want. MINIMUM of 48mb.
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09/19/2007 10:23:01 AM · #1306 |
Hi, can I join in here?
I just got my first 4 past QC today! (second attempt) I decided to try again when upload was available. It is, I did, it worked!
Most of my stuff is sports, mostly editorial, some RF. Anyone know what I can expect? |
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09/19/2007 10:26:46 AM · #1307 |
Originally posted by nickp37:
Most of my stuff is sports, mostly editorial, some RF. Anyone know what I can expect? |
By 'mostly editorial' you mean no model releases? Search through Alamy with keywords that describe your images to get an idea of how many you will compete with and what quality level hits high on the searches. That should help.
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09/19/2007 10:33:26 AM · #1308 |
Originally posted by idnic:
By 'mostly editorial' you mean no model releases? |
Yep, most of what i shoot is NJCAA sports, if the athletes want to go on to NCAA, a release may make them ineligable, so I don't even think about asking for one. I did some searching before (a few months back), I'll do it again now. Thanks! |
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09/19/2007 10:38:31 AM · #1309 |
As for editorial it means something used in a newspaper or magazine. Alamy is not as well known in the commercial advertising world as Getty and other big companies are. Alamy is real easy with approving photos with people without a release. Remember in editorial no release is needed until or unless it's used to market or sell something. As far as keywording, feel free to look at other photos but be fair and don't cut and paste words either as a group of individual words. Keywording is as important as the photo itself. Just like a wedding photog doesn't like another photog shooting over his shoulder many feel that you should use your own ability to keyword. Alamy will kick ya out if you borrow or copy keywords and rightly so. Alamy is moving towards a change soon. With the micro companies gain popularity, Getty has already reduced prices significantly. The photogs revolted and Getty backed off some. There is probably too much of a different when a photo sells for $800 on Alamy or Getty and $1 on Shutterstock. Things will level out and everyone will be happy again. Best of luck.
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by nickp37:
Most of my stuff is sports, mostly editorial, some RF. Anyone know what I can expect? |
By 'mostly editorial' you mean no model releases? Search through Alamy with keywords that describe your images to get an idea of how many you will compete with and what quality level hits high on the searches. That should help. |
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09/19/2007 12:57:02 PM · #1310 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
and at how much DPI then idnic? |
300 :) |
that's a big file :-P |
I tried this on one file I was considering. The compressed version at 100% is around 6 MB (this will differ by image) and the uncompressed was 53 MB.
ETA: The dpi does nothing to the file size. It's just a number and is only needed when printing. |
Exactly, the 4 I just had pass QC were at 240 and no where in the alamy info that I have sen says anything about actual DPI. All they are concerned with(in terms of image size) is minimum file size when uncompressed. |
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09/21/2007 06:27:44 PM · #1311 |
Got the email today from alamy regarding the "novel use" scheme. wondering what you guys are thinking to do... opt in or out?
I'm not a major contributor (only 160+ images with 4 sales this year so far) but making an effort to increase image number/sales especially with the ease of on line upload. |
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09/21/2007 06:33:32 PM · #1312 |
Originally posted by charmayne:
Got the email today from alamy regarding the "novel use" scheme. wondering what you guys are thinking to do... opt in or out?
I'm not a major contributor (only 160+ images with 4 sales this year so far) but making an effort to increase image number/sales especially with the ease of on line upload. |
There's a thread started about it, Any thoughts on Alamy's 'Novel Use Scheme'. I don't think anybody really knows much about it at this point.
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09/21/2007 07:17:04 PM · #1313 |
| Thanks for the link... must have missed it speed scrolling |
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09/21/2007 09:37:18 PM · #1314 |
Originally posted by idnic:
I tried this on one file I was considering. The compressed version at 100% is around 6 MB (this will differ by image) and the uncompressed was 53 MB. |
Yep, that's what they want. MINIMUM of 48mb. [/quote]
Ok, I'm stupid. All this resizing makes no sense to me. I have exactly those same numbers 6MB compressed and 53 incompressed. So do I send them the 6MB jpeg?
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09/21/2007 09:59:14 PM · #1315 |
Originally posted by emorgan49:
Originally posted by idnic:
I tried this on one file I was considering. The compressed version at 100% is around 6 MB (this will differ by image) and the uncompressed was 53 MB. |
Yep, that's what they want. MINIMUM of 48mb. |
Ok, I'm stupid. All this resizing makes no sense to me. I have exactly those same numbers 6MB compressed and 53 incompressed. So do I send them the 6MB jpeg? [/quote]
Yes, they want a file which is at least 48mb uncompressed -- the compressed size is irrelevant as long as you are saving at the highest possible quality setting. |
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09/21/2007 10:12:19 PM · #1316 |
Im still stupid - I check that it is at least 48 MB if it is uncompressed, and then I send them the compressed file? Then, maybe a buyer would uncompress it again?
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09/21/2007 10:12:24 PM · #1317 |
doh
Message edited by author 2007-09-21 22:39:26.
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09/21/2007 10:29:28 PM · #1318 |
| You are only compressing it to move the data around, When the customer opens the file to work on it, or even if they only print it as-is, yes the data will become uncompressed again. It happens every time you open or print a compressed file. |
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09/21/2007 10:30:44 PM · #1319 |
Originally posted by emorgan49:
Im still stupid - I check that it is at least 48 MB if it is uncompressed, and then I send them the compressed file? Then, maybe a buyer would uncompress it again? |
The compressed size is how large the file is when you look at it a directory listings of your image files in something like windows explorer, ie how much space it takes up on your hard drive.
The uncompressed size you can see by viewing the compressed jpg file in photoshop. Open the image and look at the bottom left hand side of the image window and it will show the actual image size when uncompressed.
This means that if alamy gets your jpg and open it in photoshop they want to see the size of the image in the bottom left of the image window show them a file size of >48mg. When viewing the file its uncompressed for viewing so anytime its viewed it uncompressed.
Message edited by author 2007-09-21 22:31:33. |
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09/21/2007 10:40:09 PM · #1320 |
FINALLY - the light bulbs are coming on..thank you
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09/24/2007 11:10:14 AM · #1321 |
Everyone notice the new keywording system (look at your Manage My Images page)? Going to take me hours to go through all of my images & update them.
According to Alamy, images not updated with the new system will not be penalized in searches, but those that have been updated will be easier for buyers to find.
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09/24/2007 11:26:41 AM · #1322 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Everyone notice the new keywording system (look at your Manage My Images page)? Going to take me hours to go through all of my images & update them.
According to Alamy, images not updated with the new system will not be penalized in searches, but those that have been updated will be easier for buyers to find. |
Ive noticed looking at many pics that arent using the new keywording fields etc have all sorts of info in their keywords, that to me anyway dont clearly represent the image, specifically all sorts of location info. I guess I can see its relevance but it just doesnt sem to apply to the image in the normal sense.
I think their new method will be nice. Im guessing you will be able to search on locations AND other more key wording which will allow you more targetted results to a given search. |
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09/24/2007 02:05:28 PM · #1323 |
| I have finished re keywording most of my images, is it possible it is already affecting the results? I have searched my keywords and I now appear on the first page on many. Alot of work, but so far so good. |
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09/24/2007 06:34:06 PM · #1324 |
I noticed the new keywording and i'm currently going through my 300 odd images moving keywording to the new sections and filling out the "number of people/property release stuff.
With the number of people does this refer to any person in the shot. For instance if I have a landscape with 2 people walking down a path in the distance would I declare this as 2 people and no model release?
Thanks |
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09/24/2007 06:46:19 PM · #1325 |
Originally posted by kevip6:
I noticed the new keywording and i'm currently going through my 300 odd images moving keywording to the new sections and filling out the "number of people/property release stuff.
With the number of people does this refer to any person in the shot. For instance if I have a landscape with 2 people walking down a path in the distance would I declare this as 2 people and no model release?
Thanks |
There was some discussion about this very issue on Alamy forums earlier today. You should check there to see what the final concensus was.
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