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 08/09/2007 01:24:37 PM · #26
I have to say that even turned down in opacity, the watermark really pretty much wrecks the image. It would be one thing if this was a stock site, but I don't really think that's what DPC is about.

Also, if the watermark is only applied to images after the challenge, then it does nothing to prevent people who decide to use this as an image bank of sorts to download all of the images during voting using an automated method. They can then sift through them at their leisure.
 08/09/2007 01:28:19 PM · #27
I like the watermark Idea but agree that brads were a tad large, All my watermarks on other sites are just small in the corner, so you can't really see it, but if you look you can prove that its yours!
 08/09/2007 01:30:48 PM · #28
oh my gosh what a lame and pathetic person.....how can someone do something like that?!
 08/09/2007 01:38:09 PM · #29
I am so about to sign up to this site so i can leave comments like "Thief" or something like this.... i mean people are telling here what a good shot it is and she is claiming this photo.... not right.... im going to sign up..... =)
 08/09/2007 01:39:13 PM · #30
Originally posted by Givemeashot:
I am so about to sign up to this site so i can leave comments like "Thief" or something like this.... i mean people are telling here what a good shot it is and she is claiming this photo.... not right.... im going to sign up..... =)


Ill make my Sign in name " PicturePolice" =) LMAO
 08/09/2007 01:47:03 PM · #31
Isn't there a standard way to keep pictures from being copied when you right click on them? I don't think BetterPhoto watermarks the photos, but if you right click on any of them -- even your own -- you get a message that you have to contact the author. Would something like that be possible?????

08/09/2007 01:48:07 PM · #32
Originally posted by SandyP:
Isn't there a standard way to keep pictures from being copied when you right click on them? I don't think BetterPhoto watermarks the photos, but if you right click on any of them -- even your own -- you get a message that you have to contact the author. Would something like that be possible?????

What happens if you disable javascript in your browser and then try to right-click it? :)
 08/09/2007 01:50:50 PM · #33
Originally posted by SandyP:
Isn't there a standard way to keep pictures from being copied when you right click on them? I don't think BetterPhoto watermarks the photos, but if you right click on any of them -- even your own -- you get a message that you have to contact the author. Would something like that be possible?????

Right-click disabling does nothing Sandy. Some sites use a shrink wrap method that basically places the image behind a clear gif, but that is so easily bypassed. If it's viewable, it's "borrowable", period, by either print screening or browser cache / media info on the page.
 08/09/2007 01:50:56 PM · #34
Originally posted by SandyP:
Isn't there a standard way to keep pictures from being copied when you right click on them? I don't think BetterPhoto watermarks the photos, but if you right click on any of them -- even your own -- you get a message that you have to contact the author. Would something like that be possible?????


Yes but still doesn't fix the issue of just taking a screenshot. I like Brad's watermark, I think don't think it's too much, but of course not better than no watermark. My suggestion would be to also add a "This image is copyrighted by the photographer" or something right below the image instead of at the bottom of the page.
 08/09/2007 01:51:56 PM · #35
from the same "artist" //www.deviantart.com/deviation/61700457/ does anyone recognize this? It looks dpc quality and size.

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 13:53:06.
 08/09/2007 01:55:43 PM · #36
I just signed in and posted a comment. There were already a couple of protests ;-))

It's bad enough when people steal your images, but having them say they're theirs is the absolute limit !!!
08/09/2007 01:57:26 PM · #37
i would really ask you NOT TO DO THIS!!!

Originally posted by Givemeashot:
Originally posted by Givemeashot:
I am so about to sign up to this site so i can leave comments like "Thief" or something like this.... i mean people are telling here what a good shot it is and she is claiming this photo.... not right.... im going to sign up..... =)


Ill make my Sign in name " PicturePolice" =) LMAO


there are a lot better ways to handle this; please start by reading this.
 08/09/2007 01:57:38 PM · #38
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by elsapo:
I reported her, hope it gets fixed soon.


last time that happened to me at Deviant Art I was told they wouldn't do anything about it.

Round about the time I stopped posting over there, strangely enough.


Really? Wow. So they're completely ignoring their own terms of service?

Originally posted by DA TOS:

deviantART respects the intellectual property rights of others and expects users of the Service to do the same. At deviantART's discretion and in appropriate circumstances, deviantART may remove Your Content submitted to the Site, terminate the accounts of users or prevent access to the Site by users who infringe the intellectual property rights of others.


I certainly won't ever use them if that's the case.
 08/09/2007 01:59:37 PM · #39
Originally posted by SamDoe1:
Originally posted by SandyP:
Isn't there a standard way to keep pictures from being copied when you right click on them? I don't think BetterPhoto watermarks the photos, but if you right click on any of them -- even your own -- you get a message that you have to contact the author. Would something like that be possible?????


Yes but still doesn't fix the issue of just taking a screenshot. ...

Don't even need a screenshot. Here's an "Editor's Choice" from BetterPhoto (don't worry, I'll delete it here shortly). Disabled scripting in my browser and was able to right-click it.

08/09/2007 02:00:12 PM · #40
Originally posted by SamDoe1:
Yes but still doesn't fix the issue of just taking a screenshot. I like Brad's watermark, I think don't think it's too much, but of course not better than no watermark. My suggestion would be to also add a "This image is copyrighted by the photographer" or something right below the image instead of at the bottom of the page.


That's already on the page. and the image - in the file name. (right click and save to see that all the images have that message)

People aren't taking these images and claiming them as their own through ignorance.
So telling them they are copyrighted doesn't really do much.

The only option really is to obscure the actual image. If you can see it, you can copy it. It's that simple (*)

So you are left with either
a/ not worrying about some teenager claiming that their photo is yours or
b/ messing them up as Brad's examples show, to claim your ownership.

Small watermarks on the side are usually easily cut/cropped off. Anything else doesn't work.

It needs a visible and hence destructive mark, right through the center of the image.

The remaining question is then is it worth destroying your work to protect an image that doesn't really have any value to the person who misappropriates it ? If those 640x480 images are so valuable to you, you may want to reconsider posting them on the internet as you can't usefully protect them.

(*) (until we all have microsoft approved digital rights managed monitors and operating systems and what a mess that day will be)


08/09/2007 02:01:41 PM · #41
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by elsapo:
I reported her, hope it gets fixed soon.


last time that happened to me at Deviant Art I was told they wouldn't do anything about it.

Round about the time I stopped posting over there, strangely enough.


Really? Wow. So they're completely ignoring their own terms of service?


Yup. I've had this happen with multiple images on DeviantArt and other sites. The admin's usually don't care. I got to the point where I realised I don't care either. It doesn't cost me anything. It's somewhat pathetic but I don't want to ruin my images to protect them.

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 14:04:20.
 08/09/2007 02:10:21 PM · #42
Originally posted by rich:
I have to say that even turned down in opacity, the watermark really pretty much wrecks the image.

I disagree. But, to each his/her own opinion. After all, it wouldn't be on a print, only for security purposes. Give the owner of the photo an option to put it on or not when it gets uploaded. Those that don't/wouldn't put a watermark on couldn't complain their shots were stolen .
 08/09/2007 02:14:57 PM · #43
It sort of comes down to a decision:

Do you want people to see your pictures or

Do you want to stop people stealing your pictures ?

Then, do you think most viewers are potential thieves, or

that most viewers want to see your pictures ?

Who would you like to inconvenience more ?

As mentioned, I've had many of my images used without my permission. In some cases people claimed they took the pictures. So I do know how annoying this actually is, personally. I'm sure there are other places that I don't know about too.

But I'd rather people see my pictures, than bother about the few cretins.

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 14:23:13.
 08/09/2007 02:15:57 PM · #44
Gordon's solution is the best one. If you are worried about your images being 'stolen' online, why even bother to post them? I don't like watermarks either. Some watermarks are small and unobtrusive, but most of those I have seen do ruin the viewing experience of the image.

Another way to help keep your images from being stolen is to post them very small. If you keep the long side at or under 300 pixels, the image is still viewable but it's not really large enough to make a thief really want it.
08/09/2007 02:16:53 PM · #45
When will they ever learn that the eyes of DPC are always watching?

We all really need to start making big deals out of these things, suing for tons of money and drawing lots of media attention to it. Make people scared of us :-)

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 14:18:47.
 08/09/2007 02:17:19 PM · #46
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
When will they ever learn that the eyes of DPC are always watching?


Seriously!
 08/09/2007 02:17:51 PM · #47
its funny how you get, I dont know Larus, i dont think i've ever even pm'd him but i just got so PISSED OFF when i see someone blatantly lying about a shot like that and then having the nerve to give a story of how they shot it. we get defensive of each other and thats cool.this person is worse than pond scum

edited for spelling

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 14:22:34.
 08/09/2007 02:19:41 PM · #48
Originally posted by Brad:
Originally posted by Gordon:

Corrupting the images to be unviewable destroys the purpose of the site.

Corrupting as in watermarking?
I just made a DPChallenge watermark and ran it somewhat aggressively on a random sample of images to see the effect if something like that was added to images after the challenge. If every shot had it, after a little while, you don't really see it that much, but will be a deterrent to those that want to "borrow" them, as they now have some editing to do to get rid of it.



Those were the most distracting things ever haha. Its diagonoal, it pulled my eyes straight from one corner to the next.
 08/09/2007 02:21:58 PM · #49
They have already developed software that can recognize photos taken in the same location, or of the same subject. With this image recognition, it's probably only a matter of time before you can search the web for a specific photograph. This would make it easy to see if one of your photos was being displayed on another website.

Until then, I think we will just have to rely each other to find the few individuals who decide to fake ownership of photographs. Watermarks would help to deter thefts, but I would rather not place them on my images. The web is accessible to everyone, so I guess it's just a risk you run by posting your photos online. I am not justifying it or condoning it, I just don't think there is a sure fire way to stop it entirely.
 08/09/2007 02:29:46 PM · #50
Originally posted by Skip:

not to go too far off-topic, but i really question the merit anyone could get out of using dpc as a portfolio site, unless the purpose/needs are so low that it doesn't matter. there are too many other cheap/near-free options that are much better suited for displaying an online portfolio, especially if the purpose is develop business. but, to each their own, and, for $25 bucks, it's not a bad place to start.


That's okay...I question the merit of people putting a big fat bright copyright symbol right in the middle of all their photos, making them totally undesirable to look at...but doesn't mean that doesn't happen either. ;)
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